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#21 Eire

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 04:13 PM

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chem kartsum teghapoxelu karqiq ka, Hye Yeritasard e yev ir mitqn e artahaytum, asem nayev vor vorosh baner shat el dipuk e asum....
Arit tanq togh xosi batsy ir sirt@, kariq chka vijelu / manavand PROVOKE anelu


Martavari badaskhan ei esbassoum.
gerevi te esdeghi hyere moratsan irents hbardoutioune...

Aroun ou Badiv
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#22 MosJan

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (Eire @ Jul 18 2009, 03:13 PM)
QUOTE (Ծիրա
@ Jul 18 2009, 03:03 PM) chem kartsum teghapoxelu karqiq ka, Hye Yeritasard e yev ir mitqn e artahaytum, asem nayev vor vorosh baner shat el dipuk e asum....
Arit tanq togh xosi batsy ir sirt@, kariq chka vijelu / manavand PROVOKE anelu

Martavari badaskhan ei esbassoum.
gerevi te esdeghi hyere moratsan irents hbardoutioune...

Aroun ou Badiv
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voch baregam shad g@saxalis, hos HAyer@ shad lav kiden irents Azgutyun@, Azgayin PArtakanutuujn@, irents lavn yev vat@ irents terutyuner@ yev Aravelutyuner@ smile.gif Sa Hye Forum e yev voch BAshi Bozuxi HAvaqateghi smile.gif






#23 Eire

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 06:14 PM

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voch baregam shad g@saxalis, hos HAyer@ shad lav kiden irents Azgutyun@, Azgayin PArtakanutuujn@, irents lavn yev vat@ irents terutyuner@ yev Aravelutyuner@ smile.gif Sa Hye Forum e yev voch BAshi Bozuxi HAvaqateghi smile.gif


Iv seen the garbage posted on this site.
Embracing muslims and jews as Armenian? clapping at more left-wing promises that were never kept.
Some of the people that post here would gladly sell their own people.
just what pride are you referring to here?

Aroun ou Badiv
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#24 Harut

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 07:13 PM

QUOTE (Eire @ Jul 18 2009, 05:14 PM)
Iv seen the garbage posted on this site.
Embracing muslims and jews as Armenian? clapping at more left-wing promises that were never kept.
Some of the people that post here would gladly sell their own people.
just what pride are you referring to here?

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so how is supporting universal health care, supporting higher taxes in AMERICA, supporting religion-less state, supporting minority rights, etc etc equate selling our own people, ARMENIANS?

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 07:19 PM

I have read The Constitution of Liberty some time back. You are too naive to understand why i vote democratic. There is not conservative blood flowing thru my veins there is compassionate blood flowing thru them...

You may think that it is diaspora supporting Armenia but you could not be more wrong. These days Diaspora is a small part. they dont have to keep kissing our asses for ages because diaspora stood by Armenia in its weakest days. they already thanked us and invited us to visit and stay.

as for Reagen being a fine guy im glad you like him. because for the next 30-40 years you will continue to pay taxes for his and Bushes mistakes. Enjoy

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (Harut @ Jul 18 2009, 08:13 PM)
so how is supporting universal health care, supporting higher taxes in AMERICA, supporting religion-less state, supporting minority rights, etc etc equate selling our own people, ARMENIANS?


Take a look at the canadian health care system and then get back to me. I support a partially public health care. Also, the universal health care systems in the western (free) world are only functioning (relatively) properly due to the fact that they are supported by a free-market economy.

Higher taxes in America? I think you need to study economics a bit more before. Higher taxes hurt businesses who in the end hurt the individual. Also, why would you want someone to tell you what to do with the money you worked hard for?

Religion-less state? Go look at the British multicultural religion less (islamic) state. You clearly have no idea about what is going on in the world due to multiculturalism.

Supporting minority rights or the oppression of majority rights? United Negro fund, united hispanic fund, affirmative action... to name a few. Where is white history month? or united white college fund? Or is that just more white racism? wink.gif

All of the above are ideas that will only drain Armenia, as it has in the past. How long will it take for you blissful baboons to understand the errors of the past? Should we give socialism another 100 years to prove itself right? The worldwide death toll for socialism is at over 100 000 000. Should we give it more time to double?

Read a book. (I'll suggest the Black Book of communism by Stephane Courtois)

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Edited by Eire, 19 July 2009 - 03:56 PM.


#27 Eire

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE (Azat @ Jul 18 2009, 08:19 PM)
I have read The Constitution of Liberty some time back. You are too naive to understand why i vote democratic. There is not conservative blood flowing thru my veins there is compassionate blood flowing thru them...

You may think that it is diaspora supporting Armenia but you could not be more wrong. These days Diaspora is a small part. they dont have to keep kissing our asses for ages because diaspora stood by Armenia in its weakest days. they already thanked us and invited us to visit and stay.

as for Reagen being a fine guy I'm glad you like him. because for the next 30-40 years you will continue to pay taxes for his and Bushes mistakes. Enjoy


That's an impressive statement. You've managed to associate leftist thought to compassion?
Where have I heard that one before?
How about you research the death toll of all states in which socialism was applied. While your at it, please find me a single properly functioning socialist state.
Hell just look at Armenia if you want. With the new arrival of capitalism (not that I am a capitalist) the country is booming.

I'm not asking for them to kiss our asses and I'm not talking as an outsider. I'm saying my blood makes me who I am, weather you choose to believe it or not.

It's cute how the second there is the slightest fault with capitalism, the left is quick to rejoice.
Markets fluctuate. This time was much worse due to people getting loans they couldn't pay (I'll let you guess who those people where wink.gif ) and some people at the top were horrendously corrupt. It was a grave mistake, that is true. But I bet you wouldn't move for anything in the world. If not, your always welcome to move to the socialist workers paradise that is Cuba.

People that think like you do should be as far away from Armenia as possible, or you'll end up plunging us back into the Soviet Era.

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Eire @ Jul 19 2009, 02:54 PM)
That's an impressive statement. You've managed to associate leftist thought to compassion?
Where have I heard that one before?
How about you research the death toll of all states in which socialism was applied. While your at it, please find me a single properly functioning socialist state.
Hell just look at Armenia if you want. With the new arrival of capitalism (not that I am a capitalist) the country is booming.

I'm not asking for them to kiss our asses and I'm not talking as an outsider. I'm saying my blood makes me who I am, weather you choose to believe it or not.

It's cute how the second there is the slightest fault with capitalism, the left is quick to rejoice.
Markets fluctuate. This time was much worse due to people getting loans they couldn't pay (I'll let you guess who those people where wink.gif ) and some people at the top were horrendously corrupt. It was a grave mistake, that is true. But I bet you wouldn't move for anything in the world. If not, your always welcome to move to the socialist workers paradise that is Cuba.

People that think like you do should be as far away from Armenia as possible, or you'll end up plunging us back into the Soviet Era.

Aroun ou Badiv
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Dumb *** I was talking about myself and not the left or the right. but you are too much of a raciest moron to understand.

Few days back you were talking about going back to your homeland Armenia. go. who the *** is holding you back. what? you are not ready? why? or you are just full of shit and all talk but never plan to go? I thought so...

*** off and go crawl under the rock where you came from

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 05:26 PM

QUOTE (Eire @ Jul 19 2009, 02:47 PM)
Take a look at the canadian health care system and then get back to me. I support a partially public health care. Also, the universal health care systems in the western (free) world are only functioning (relatively) properly due to the fact that they are supported by a free-market economy.


how does this equate selling out armenians?

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Higher taxes in America? I think you need to study economics a bit more before. Higher taxes hurt businesses who in the end hurt the individual. Also, why would you want someone to tell you what to do with the money you worked hard for?


how does this equate selling out armenians?

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Religion-less state? Go look at the British multicultural religion less (islamic) state. You clearly have no idea about what is going on in the world due to multiculturalism.


how does this equate selling out armenians?

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Supporting minority rights or the oppression of majority rights? United Negro fund, united hispanic fund, affirmative action... to name a few. Where is white history month? or united white college fund? Or is that just more white racism? wink.gif


how does this equate selling out armenians?

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All of the above are ideas that will only drain Armenia, as it has in the past. How long will it take for you blissful baboons to understand the errors of the past? Should we give socialism another 100 years to prove itself right? The worldwide death toll for socialism is at over 100 000 000. Should we give it more time to double?

Read a book. (I'll suggest the Black Book of communism by Stephane Courtois)

Aroun ou Badiv
Eire


you failed to show how you came to that conclusion... and my original question remained unanswered... how does supporting left-wing political factions in the west equate selling out armenians?

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 05:38 PM

Gentlemen, this kid just discovered that socialism has been the most bloodthirsty, freedom depriving, wealth destroying system of the 20th century. We all know that, it's a matter of public record. But as a Don Quijote he sees socialists or communists in everyone that doesn't say Heil Eire. Don't bother with this aspirant to resident clown (we have seen a fair share come and go...). It is true that sometimes they provide some entertainment, but in order to do that some intelligence is necessary. That seems to be lacking in this case.

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE (Boghos @ Jul 19 2009, 05:38 PM)
Gentlemen, this kid just discovered that socialism has been the most bloodthirsty, freedom depriving, wealth destroying system of the 20th century. We all know that, it's a matter of public record. But as a Don Quijote he sees socialists or communists in everyone that doesn't say Heil Eire. Don't bother with this aspirant to resident clown (we have seen a fair share come and go...). It is true that sometimes they provide some entertainment, but in order to do that some intelligence is necessary. That seems to be lacking in this case.


I suggest you do some research as to just what Eire is and means before you spew your ignorant rhetoric.
It's never wise to underestimate or attempt to humiliate people you dont even know.

I will not play your childish games and respect you none the less.
have a good one

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (Azat @ Jul 19 2009, 05:22 PM)
Dumb *** I was talking about myself and not the left or the right. but you are too much of a raciest moron to understand.

Few days back you were talking about going back to your homeland Armenia. go. who the *** is holding you back. what? you are not ready? why? or you are just full of shit and all talk but never plan to go? I thought so...

*** off and go crawl under the rock where you came from


Don't speak like a Turk.
You have no idea who I am nor my level of commitment in Armenia or outside of it.
Your insulting posts are merely a reflection of your own lack of intelligence.
Good day and good luck

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE (Harut @ Jul 19 2009, 05:26 PM)
how does this equate selling out armenians?



how does this equate selling out armenians?



how does this equate selling out armenians?



how does this equate selling out armenians?



you failed to show how you came to that conclusion... and my original question remained unanswered... how does supporting left-wing political factions in the west equate selling out armenians?


Allow me to explain Harout jan

If a majority, if even a large proportion of foreign born and living Armenians support these corrupt institutions, it reflects a dangerous set of ideas that can be transferred to the fatherland. It is a well known fact that the 11th red Army that ended our first republic was aided by Armenians. Also, under the socialist dashnaks, the first republic was an economic failure. im not solely blaming this on dashnagtsoutioun, it was right after genocide and war after all, but the party in power has alot of fault on its shoulders.

partisan civil wars, like that of the Dashnaks and Hnchags in lebanon, assassination of politicians and so on.
is it ever justifiable to draw blood from your brother?

The point I am trying to make is the left has failed, and we cant let their errors stop us from surviving as a nation, because right now our people are dying. Take a look around you. Our men and women marry arabs and blacks. Our children are on drugs and join gangs. Our people have no more faith or pride.

This ends now.

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE (Eire @ Jul 19 2009, 09:38 PM)
The point I am trying to make is the left has failed, and we cant let their errors stop us from surviving as a nation, because right now our people are dying. Take a look around you. Our men and women marry arabs and blacks. Our children are on drugs and join gangs. Our people have no more faith or pride.


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HEIL EIRE! Let's hope he learns to spell while in school remediation.

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (Boghos @ Jul 19 2009, 09:01 PM)
HEIL EIRE! Let's hope he learns to spell while in school remediation.


Your a poor and weak man.
Your generation of passionless men will soon die, and then we can start again.

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 11:20 PM

Eire, are you ready tomorow to pack your bags go to Artsakh and do your service on the line?

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 11:44 PM

i advise new member (s) of this forum to read! and remember the code of conduct. or you'll be banned, again, and again...

tell me how many times did we banned you from here?

behave, please...........i said please, and i wont repeat it again.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE (DominO @ Jul 20 2009, 12:20 AM)
Eire, are you ready tomorow to pack your bags go to Artsakh and do your service on the line?


Thats a question I cannot answer unless faced with the situation.
If you had read my post properly, you would have understood that Im not urging everyone to just pack up and leave. Im merely pointing out that our loyalties should not lie with the countries we now live in, but with the country we now left.
I have seen fights between armenians just because some lipanahye made some comment about bolsahyes, and so on.
I feel our association with these countries only further causes division amongst my people and that is something we can no longer afford.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE (ED @ Jul 20 2009, 12:44 AM)
i advise new member (s) of this forum to read! and remember the code of conduct. or you'll be banned, again, and again...

tell me how many times did we banned you from here?

behave, please...........i said please, and i wont repeat it again.


I have never lacked respect to any member on this forum, nor have I ever been banned before.
Your comment to me clearly shows your own bias and that you are unable to stand up to your forum friends, who are actually behind the degeneration of this debate.

Good day
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Posted 20 July 2009 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (Eire @ Jul 18 2009, 05:14 PM)
Iv seen the garbage posted on this site.
Embracing muslims and jews as Armenian? clapping at more left-wing promises that were never kept.
Some of the people that post here would gladly sell their own people.
just what pride are you referring to here?

Aroun ou Badiv
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