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#121 Arpa

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 12:20 PM

Mainly beacause we are convinced that we were conceived in 500 BC Thracia, born on 301 AD, started speaking 405 and learned how to walk crawling from Ararat to Zion- that is, if we don't already define ourselves by our fez. :)

Speaking of which see this piece of trash. Why is it being aired, simply becuse it contains the word "zion"?
http://asbarez.com/9...zion’-sunday/
EE Verin Yerusaghem???
http://www.rheinmain...rg/?page_id=576

Edited by Arpa, 17 March 2011 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:09 AM

Աշխարհի ամենահին գրավոր արձանագրություններից համարվող Ուրարտուի սեպագրերը Վանում վերացման վտանգի առաջ են կանգնել, ահազանգում է «Ռադիկալ» օրաթերթը։
Վանի բերդում 1916 թ.-ին գիտնականներ Հովսեփ Օրբելիի և Նիկողայոս Մառի կողմից հայտնաբերված 2 700-ամյա ուրարտական սեպագրերը վերացման եզրին են։ Անուշադրության մատնված արձանագրությունները վանդալիզմի զոհ են դարձել և գրեթե անընթեռնելի են։

Սարդուրի 2-րդ թագավորի արձանագրությունները թվագրվում են մ.թ.ա. 765-735թթ.,

http://www.tert.am/a.../15/van-urartu/


Edited by Johannes, 15 October 2012 - 03:11 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:34 AM

Թուրքի գերության սահմանում միայն մզկիթն է գոմ վերածվելու ճակատագրից փրկվում...
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:15 PM

Tree of life/eternity

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:18 PM

Urartian cuneiform writing

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:21 PM

The name of Armenia/Urartu in neighbouring languages' cuneiform writing

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:52 AM

The ultimate vandalism will be when they convince the world that the Urarartuan cuneiform **script is an ancient furkish. :angry:

Urar-turk

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7851&st=0

And that Argishti is in fact “argish-LI, from … erjish

Arjesh

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=36962&hl=arjesh

And, in the meantime what are we doing? That the furkish “dolma” is in fact from the Urartuan “toli/tolma”? To once again reinforce that that furkish non-language is in fact a dialect of the Urartuan.

Do we need a language police?

Yes!!

We need to stuff ‘litsel, letsnel the mouth that clown Sedrak Mamulian :chef: :jester: with so much “dolma” that he won’t ever speak again!!!

** The Armenian word for cuneiform is “sepagir” as “cunei” in fact means wedge/sep.

http://www.friendsoflbl.org/Communications/images/288px-Wedge-1.jpg

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 03:46 PM

In another thread
http://hyeforum.com/...e=3#entry313710
I challenged us to stop lying, since no one believes us, not even we.
If we are in fact the heirs of the Urartuans, then why did we not know about it until the Europeans discovered and deciphered it in mid and late 1800s . Although the below site may say that Khorenatsi may have mentioned them in a legend of Ara and Shamiram. We did not even know about Ararat/Aratta… until we saw it in the Bible, until which we called the Twin Peaks Masis. Even now many of us confuse between the Land of Ararat with the Peaks,
http://hyeforum.com/...onfused +ararat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urartu
 

Inspired by the writings of the medieval Armenian historian Movses Khorenatsi (who had described Urartian works in Van and attributed them to the legendary Ara the Beautiful and queen Semiramis), the French scholar Jean Saint-Martin suggested that his government send Friedrich Eduard Schulz, a German professor, to the Van area in 1827 on behalf of the French Oriental Society.[23] Schulz discovered and copied numerous cuneiform inscriptions, partly in Assyrian and partly in a hitherto unknown language. Schulz also re-discovered the Kelishin stele, bearing an Assyrian-Urartian bilingual inscription, located on the Kelishin pass on the current Iraqi-Iranian border. A summary account of his initial discoveries was published in 1828. Schulz and four of his servants were murdered by Kurds in 1829 near Başkale. His notes were later recovered and published in Paris in 1840. In 1828, the British Assyriologist Henry Creswicke Rawlinson had attempted to copy the inscription on the Kelishin stele, but failed because of the ice on the stele's front side. The German scholar R. Rosch made a similar attempt a few years later, but he and his party were attacked and killed.
In the late 1840s Sir Austen Henry Layard examined and described the Urartian rock-cut tombs of Van Castle, including the Argishti chamber. From the 1870s, local residents began to plunder the Toprakkale ruins, selling its artefacts to European collections. In the 1880s this site underwent a poorly executed excavation organised by Hormuzd Rassam on behalf of the British Museum. Almost nothing was properly documented.
The first systematic collection of Urartian inscriptions, and thus the beginning of Urartology as a specialized field dates to the 1870s, with the campaign of Sir Archibald Henry Sayce. The German engineer Karl Sester, discoverer of Mount Nemrut, collected more inscriptions in 1890/1. Waldemar Belck visited the area in 1891, discovering the Rusa stele. A further expedition planned for 1893 was prevented by Turkish-Armenian hostilities. Belck together with Lehmann-Haupt visited the area again in 1898/9, excavating Toprakkale. On this expedition, Belck reached the Kelishin stele, but he was attacked by Kurds and barely escaped with his life. Belck and Lehmann-Haupt reached the stele again in a second attempt, but were again prevented from copying the inscription by weather conditions. After another assault on Belck provoked the diplomatic intervention of Wilhelm II, Sultan Abdul Hamid II, agreed to pay Belck a sum of 80,000 gold marks in reparation. During World War I, the Lake Van region briefly fell under Russian control. In 1916, the Russian scholars Nikolay Yakovlevich Marr and Iosif Abgarovich Orbeli, excavating at the Van fortress, uncovered a four-faced stele carrying the annals of Sarduri II. In 1939 Boris Borisovich Piotrovsky excavated Karmir-Blur, discovering Teišebai, the city of the god of war, Teišeba. In 1938–40, excavations by the American scholars Kirsopp and Silva Lake were cut short by World War II, and most of their finds and field records were lost when a German submarine torpedoed their ship, the SS Athenia. Their surviving documents were published by Manfred Korfmann in 1977.
A new phase of excavations began after the war. Excavations were at first restricted to Soviet Armenia. The fortress of Karmir Blur, dating from the reign of Rusa II, was excavated by a team headed by Boris Piotrovsky, and for the first time the excavators of a Urartian site published their findings systematically. Beginning in 1956 Charles Burney identified and sketch-surveyed many Urartian sites in the Lake Van area and, from 1959, a Turkish expedition under Tahsin Özgüç excavated Altintepe and Arif Erzen.
In the late-1960s, Urartian sites in northwest Iran were excavated. In 1976, an Italian team led by Mirjo Salvini finally reached the Kelishin stele, accompanied by a heavy military escort. The Gulf War then closed these sites to archaeological research. Oktay Belli resumed excavation of Urartian sites on Turkish territory: in 1989 Ayanis, a 7th-century BC fortress built by Rusas II of Urartu, was discovered 35 km north of Van. In spite of excavations, only a third to a half of the 300 known Urartian sites in Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Armenia have been examined by archaeologists (Wartke 1993). Without protection, many sites have been plundered by local residents searching for treasure and other saleable antiquities.



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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:36 PM

Surik Asmaryan ...գիտեք արդյոք, որ Աշխարհից ու իրենից խռոված Խորենացին կյանքի վերջին տարիներն ու օրերը անցկացրել է Արայի լեռան վրա գտնվող մառուռի ճգնարանում...այստեղ է նրա այցի եկել Վարդան սպարապետ Մամիկոնյանը` Ավարայրի ճակատամարտից առաջ...երբ Խորենացին մահացավ, քանի որ նա բանադրված էր եկեղեցու կողմից, Խորենացու դին գաղտնի թաղել են Արմավիրի թագավորական դամբարանում: Իմանալով այդ մասին, կաթողիկոսի հրամանով, որպես քրիստոնեական դավանաքի մոլլի հակառակորդ-հեթանոսի, մոռելանդ քրիստոնյանները գերեզմանից հանեցին Խորենացուն և ոսկորները լցրեցին վարարած գետը....



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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:42 PM

What about so called Turkish historians who say, that Sumerians are ancient turks?

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:49 PM

People of southern historical Armenia, are direct heirs of Urartu. Now they are living in republic of Armenia, after AG and the big Migration of Vaspouracan armenians.
Official language of Urartu was urartian (a hurrian language), like Greek during artaxiad dynasty in Armenia, like Parthian language during Arsacid dynasty in ancient Armenia.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:59 PM

Ajarian says; many words in Armenian, which cannot be explained by proto indoeuropean rules or has not other relatives in other indoeuropean languages, especially those which ends with letter խ, are from araratian language (Urartian).
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