A 3 Year Relationship Which Ended In Heartbreak. Help!
#21
Posted 16 June 2007 - 08:45 PM
#22
Posted 16 June 2007 - 08:59 PM
Actually even long time wont matter. My co-worker is not going through a divorce. A very bad one. They celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary couple of months back so I guess even time wont tell
#23
Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:04 PM
#24
Posted 16 June 2007 - 11:00 PM
Definite words of wisdom.
Yeah. Women in California (north or south)... Ahhh the problems of a society with no social norms and a population (for the most part) turned into debt slaves...
And then they criticize countries that do have social norms (e.g. Muslims from country X or traditional Western Armenians or ROA Armenians or Iranian Armenians).
Turns out there's no correlation between GDP and the happiness of a population, after all.
Social norms help secure relationships, so that it's not that much of a "risk" when one chooses his/her life partner.
It also helps in relationships to be free (i.e. not a couple who are both debt slaves)...
Edited by Shahan Araradian, 16 June 2007 - 11:07 PM.
#26
Posted 18 June 2007 - 12:42 PM
And then they criticize countries that do have social norms (e.g. Muslims from country X or traditional Western Armenians or ROA Armenians or Iranian Armenians).
Turns out there's no correlation between GDP and the happiness of a population, after all.
Social norms help secure relationships, so that it's not that much of a "risk" when one chooses his/her life partner.
It also helps in relationships to be free (i.e. not a couple who are both debt slaves)...
What does this have to do with anything here?
#27
Posted 18 June 2007 - 07:51 PM
I agree with you. As women's biological clock is constantly ticking; women have to weigh their precious time and put a time limit to their dating. In one complete year a couple can learn a great deal from each other if the other person is well suited to be their fitting spouse or not. For this, women have to take charge and limit the dating process to one year. If they are very much in love then it would be hard to end the relationship; but a women has to be loved to. If the guy is not reciprocating her love then the guy is obviously not worth it, and if he loves her dearly then he should give in to marrying her. Unless there are other problems such as money, going to college, etc. Even then, they can live humbly for a while, but marry each other.
#28
Posted 18 June 2007 - 09:12 PM
Այս ասացուածքները ուրտեղէ՞ն կը գտնաս... Հարցումին պատասխանը.. Մէկ պատճառը՝ շուառած ըլլալ եւ ուզել տարբեր բաներ փորձել: Ուրիշ պատճառ մըն ալ կայ որ ուրիշներ վէրը ներկայացուցած են:
#29
Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:44 AM
I refuse to believe this was anything other than a case of the parents. Now, whatever his tastes, he should have known himself better than that. I personally know I just want to marry an Armenian. Therefore I would not falsely mislead a non-Armenian into a committment knowing I will dump them later. Maybe I'm only one given the gift knowing what I want. If I want to just bang bang bang, I let the girl know I just want to bang bang bang. If I want to be a Don Juan, I let the girl know I want to be a Don Juan. If I want to be committed I let em know. I'm a bit like George W. Bush in that in whatever I want, you are either with me, or against me. This guy was full of crap. I will bet he knew full well how is parents were and he knew he could not do a God damned thing about it. His options were either a) stand up to his parents and sever ties with them for the sake of love, or (b.) continue to crawl under their shadow and give in. He chose the latter. Therefore, he's a *** and good riddens. Why would anyone want a confused guy like that to begin with?
Edited by Anonymouse, 19 June 2007 - 11:45 AM.
#30
Posted 19 June 2007 - 05:47 PM
Dear Anon; you are my kind of a human being. What I mean is that you are completely honest, kind, with a great head on your shoulders and the Armenian girl that you'll be around for future marriage, etc. etc. should be honored to be your wife.
I can only say that the only other guy I know who acted very honorably and honest with himself and/or with girls was and is my great brother.
Kuddos for the both of you!!!!
#31
Posted 21 June 2007 - 11:31 AM
I can only say that the only other guy I know who acted very honorably and honest with himself and/or with girls was and is my great brother.
Kuddos for the both of you!!!!
Honesty is the best policy! Deception is second best.
#32
Posted 23 June 2007 - 03:18 PM
#33
Posted 23 June 2007 - 04:25 PM
May I ask you kindly as to why you chose your family and culture?
Once you answer this question I think you will find that the word "racist" is a bit harsh. I think preservation would sound better, if we were 40 or 50 million in numbers this would not have been an issue. I know for a fact that Armenians treat odars pretty well.
BTW karnoug welcome to Hyeforum and continue posting please.
#34
Posted 24 June 2007 - 08:57 AM
I chose my nationality over soulmate and love also and I met a great many valuable and great odar guys who pursued me constantly wherever I worked and I always turned them down; because I had to marry with an Armenian. Sacrifice? Yes I did sacrifice; but like Yervant said if we were 40 or 50 million and were not annihilated perhaps we would not worry about preserving so much our nationality today, but the way things are, we have to. I wanted to continue my race, my nationality too. I had to.
Karnoug, I don't say it's racist as I do not see a great many guys and sometimes girls sacrificing themselves and their love to marry with an Armenian. Even in my generation I have seen numerous Armenian guys marrying with French Canadian girls in Canada, and today also in the U.S. The newer generation continues that trend of assymilating and not worrying about a thing for the preservation of their nationality. It is sad for me to see that, very sad; but what can we do? This should be the job of every Armenian parent to educate their offsprings not to weaken and to preserve their nationality by marrying with an Armenian spouse.
#35
Posted 24 June 2007 - 02:50 PM
Karnoug, I don't say it's racist as I do not see a great many guys and sometimes girls sacrificing themselves and their love to marry with an Armenian. Even in my generation I have seen numerous Armenian guys marrying with French Canadian girls in Canada, and today also in the U.S. The newer generation continues that trend of assymilating and not worrying about a thing for the preservation of their nationality. It is sad for me to see that, very sad; but what can we do? This should be the job of every Armenian parent to educate their offsprings not to weaken and to preserve their nationality by marrying with an Armenian spouse.
Thank you Anahid for your response. Obviously I too am of the same sound of mind to preserve our heritage, culture, and nationality, otherwise I would not have made the choice that I made. Though to be completely honest both with you and with myself, the family and community pressures did play a variable role in my decision. Aside from that, I still do stand by my statement that our culture is racist. I am of course stereotyping, there are always exceptions. However, when there are no odars within earshot, or the Armenian spouses of an odar, our people speak crudely about them. The racist and demeaning words to describe Latinos, Asian, Blacks are freely expressed. I have had many conversations trying to drive my point accross to such persons. I've tried to explain that of all the people on this Earth, we Armenians should never forget where discrimination leads to; that we should never forget the pain and lasting scars such judgements cause other human beings, and ultimately how it deteriorates the soul of the racist himself.
#36
Posted 24 June 2007 - 05:46 PM
Hello Karnoug, welcome to Hyeforum
I think that you're right that Armenians speak crudely of other cultures but I don't think it really qualifies as racism. If it is racism then 100% of the world's population is racist. In my experience a representative of some culture openly speaks crudely of another culture as long a member of the other culture is not around. An example is a business neighbor next door who's Japanese. Every chance he gets he wants to remind me that the rest of the business neighbors are Chinese and they have no manners.
#37
Posted 24 June 2007 - 06:54 PM
So anyone who seeks the self-preservation of their race and culture is automatically racist? So then there is nothing one can do short of consciously diluting oneself and seeking non-Armenians, that won't be interpreted as racist. You need to reconsider the logic of your argument, or rather, the lack of it.
#38
Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:36 PM
please read the posts following that one to get a better prespective, insight, and explanation of my views and statements.
thank you
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