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[wh00t]

That was the craziest shit ever.... AWESOME

[Arakadz]

Bla Bla Bla

My apologies. Bla la la la

Goodbye!

[Sip]

Ok that's it ... now we have to get rid of this WHOEL thread. Thanks a LOT Dan

Very interesting ... Domino, why do I get the feeling you'll be sleeping like a baby tonight.

[wh00t]

You guys should know that this bill received applause several times, MP Assadourian got a standing ovation, as did the other MP Dalphond-Guiral..

I was shocked to see that many of the high-ranking Liberals came up and voted in favor of this bill, this is a BIG deal it does not happen very often for so many top dogs to come out and vote against the party line, this is a great day.

[Arakadz]

Ok that's it ... now we have to get rid of this WHOEL thread. Thanks a LOT Dan

I meant to say "post" not "thread", just to clarify.

[ExtraHye]

Great job everyone!!!! Looks like all the hard work has paid off!!!

[DominO]

Uhmm, this is Dan - allow me to just post this (I know I am banned, but I wanted to say this anyway, and you guys can remove it if you want to), but WOW!! I can't describe my feelings on this.     

All the hard work by Armenians in Canada has paid off in the end. Kudos to all the folks who did all the work on it. Kudos to Mr. Assadourian. What a great day.        And allow me to THANK all the French Canadians who voted in favour, it seemed like 99% of those with French background (/surnames) were FOR it.   

I can't even express how relieved I am. What a bad day for the idiots Art Eggleton and Judy Sgro. Anyhow, this isn't a time for grudges against those who voted against the bill. Just... WOW!!!!     

OK, I'm done. You can remove this thread if you wish... My apologies. 

Goodbye! 

Get your @ss out of here. I am in good mood so don't make that change, and I have one place where individuals like you are kept out to not polute.

I leave the members of this board to read what Mr. Dan has writen in a Shoah revisionist web-site:

"Another reason I compared the two is the fact that there are many bills and motions presented in parliaments that are being debated, and I see this as a dangerous step towards criminalizing the questioning of the Armenian genocide, besides the fact that I don't think it is proven that the Armenian genocide really took place in order that it be RECOGNIZED by governments! It is the same pressurization and anti-revisionist tactics that they are using."

The hypocrith is now here telling us how happy he is.


Sip, I am angry at you and other moderators, after what this individual has done, how can he get his post left here intact.

Edited by Fadix, 21 April 2004 - 06:04 PM.

[DominO]

You guys should know that this bill received applause several times, MP Assadourian got a standing ovation, as did the other MP Dalphond-Guiral..

I was shocked to see that many of the high-ranking Liberals came up and voted in favor of this bill, this is a BIG deal it does not happen very often for so many top dogs to come out and vote against the party line, this is a great day.

That was really a surprise, I was sure the motion was to be defeated after the unoficial voice vote yesterday. I still hardly realise it really happened.

BTW, how are you doing bro. Long time no speak.

[Sip]

Sip, I am angry at you and other moderators, after what this individual has done, how can he get his post left here intact.

Come on relax. He did say he wouldn't come back unless Movses went and begged him to come back. So obviously Movses has begged him and he has accepted Movseses deep appologies and come back ... so talk to Mos

[Azat]

ADOPTED!!!!!!!!!!! VIVE LE CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wh00t, so great to see you...

[MosJan]

Canada recognise officially the genocide.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Get the TURKS!!!

[wh00t]

Wh00t, so great to see you...

Great too see you too Azat How've you been doing??

I am smack dab in the middle of exams but I just had to take time off to watch the development of this most momentous occasion. I am very proud of this country right now, the way the MPs were flashing smiles and thumbs-up to Assadourian, the applause, and also the multipartisan support. You can't imagine how shocked I was to see guys like Cauchon and Dhaliwal stand up during the "yeas".. I was like did I just see that??

First the New York Times, now this.. these past few days have produced the most significant events for the advancement of the Armenian cause since the filming of ARARAT. Right in time for April 24th.

Now to sit back and enjoy the threats, condemnations and ambassador recall (possibly) from Turkey.

[DominO]

Now to sit back and enjoy the threats, condemnations and ambassador recall (possibly) from Turkey.

Yeap! I will sit and watch the show just like you... don't forget the popcorns.

[MosJan]

Bla Bla Bla

My apologies. Bla la la la

Goodbye!

Lord FedX may I go back to work now???

[vava]

Congratulations everyone! This is a great day for Canadians and CanArmenians (even the French ones )

whoot, welcome back

[Sasun]

Wow, such a good news! Domino, you had me believed that it won't pass, you were too angry bud Maybe the MPs saw your angry comments on this board and went on to do the right thing

OK, congrats to everyone. The resolution has visited North America now!

[Armat]

I share your joys!Another brick has fallen.

[MosJan]

CANADA RECOGNIZES ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

--NATO member joins growing number of nations officially recognizing Turkey's crime against humanity

--ANCA Praises ANC of Canada for success in two Decades-long effort

OTTAWA (ANCA)--With an overwhelmingly favorable vote of 153 to 68 in Parliament today, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) member Canada joined the growing number of nations that have formally recognized the Armenian Genocide, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).

The motion reads, simply "That this House acknowledges the Armenian genocide of 1915 and condemns this act as a crime against humanity.' "Armenians in America and throughout the world welcome this historic step by Canada," said Aram Hamparian, Executive Director of the ANCA. "The Canadian Parliament, in rejecting intense Turkish government pressure, took an important step in further isolating Turkey for its shameful, international campaign of genocide denial."

Today's action, which followed yesterday's second reading of the Armenian Genocide Resolution, Bill M-380, is the culmination of more than twenty years of work by the Armenian National Committee of Canada, (ANCC) in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and throughout the country. An ANCC team has been in the nation's capital for the past several weeks representing the community's views on this matter. Bill M-380 was introduced last year by Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral (Bloc Québecois), seconded by Sarkis Assadurian (Liberal), Alexa McDonogugh (National Democratic Party), Jason Kenney (Conservative Party). On February 21st, the Parliament held its first reading, which included an hour of debate on the measure. Among those speaking in favor of the Resolution during the first reading were Derek Lee (Liberal), Eleni Bakopnaos (Liberal), Francine Lalonde (BQ), Stockwell Day (PC) and the Hon, Lorne Nystrom (NDP).

The governing Liberal leadership paved the way for this vote by allowing a "free vote," meaning that individual members are allowed to vote their conscience, without any pressure or negative repercussions from their respective party leaderships.

[MosJan]

Commons vote recognizes Armenian genocide as "crime against humanity"

ALEXANDER PANETTA
Canadian Press



OTTAWA (CP) - Canada became one of few countries to formally recognize the genocide of Armenian Turks during the First World War in a strongly worded motion adopted 153-68 in the House of Commons on Wednesday.

Government members were discouraged from voting for the motion, which is sure to anger a Turkish government that has never recognized the massacre of 1.5 million Armenians starting in 1915.

Following a charged debate at their weekly closed-door caucus meeting, Liberal backbenchers voted massively in favour while the party's cabinet contingent rejected the Bloc Quebecois motion.

Prime Minister Paul Martin was absent during the politically sensitive vote but Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham defended the government's opposition.

The Turkish government has warned that recognizing the genocide could have economic consequences and Graham said he wanted to maintain good relations with Turkey.

"Turkey is an important NATO ally in a region where it is a Muslim country with a moderate government," he said.

"What we seek to do in our foreign policy is to encourage the forward dimension, we're forward-looking. We'd like our Armenian friends and our Turkish friends to work together to put these issues in the past."

The motion read: "That this House acknowledges the Armenian genocide of 1915 and condemns this act as a crime against humanity."

The Turkish government rejects the charge of genocide as unfounded and says that while 600,000 Armenians died, 2.5 million Muslims perished in a period of civil unrest.

Unlike the Liberal government most opposition MPs - including Conservative Leader Stephen Harper - voted in favour of the motion, which places Canada in a category of only about two dozen countries to have recognized the Armenian genocide.

The United Nations has also recognized the massacre, and Armenians have been fighting for decades throughout the world for that sort of acknowledgement.

One opposition critic labelled the prime minister "hypocritical" for promising more free votes and then forcing ministers to toe the line on such a matter of deep personal conscience.

"It's a terrible double standard for Paul Martin to force his ministers to vote against it and not even show up himself," said Tory foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day.

"That is a hypocritical double standard."

Liberal Hedy Fry supported the motion but said it's important to note the atrocities were carried out under the Ottoman empire, which has faded into history and was long ago replaced by a modern Turkish state.

"I think we need to recognize the past," she said.

"I think it doesn't mean we've broken ties with the current regime in Turkey. They are our colleagues, they are our NATO allies. They are a moderate, Muslim government and I think we need to work with them.

Recognizing what happened in the Ottoman empire shouldn't affect Canada's diplomatic relations with Turkey, she said.

Fry and many other former Liberal cabinet ministers who are now backbenchers also voted in favour, including Martin Cauchon, Stephane Dion, Maurizio Bevilacqua, Lyle Vanclief, Lawrence MacAulay, Herb Dhaliwal and David Kilgour

[gurgen]

Wonderful news

Congratulations to all that made this happen. Another step has been taken towards worldwide recognition.

Edited by gurgen, 22 April 2004 - 09:22 AM.