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#41 MadArmo

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(zurderer @ Feb 21 2007, 12:39 PM)  

two question, how will ROA integrate with world, If everything stay same.

Second, what is common things between an armenian at france and at USA? And what is asimilation rate of armenians?

Lets not talk about wars.



Armenians integrate !?

What planet are you really from? We have for centuries PAL ! Are you in denial of our historical existance as well ? Since your goverment purges information from your schools & text books. Here is reality for you to digest we were on the map long before your nomadic tribes attacked... As for Armenians from the diaspora we are all the same offcourse, All children & grandchildren of survivors from genocide perpetrated by your Ottoman forfathers, Assimilation rate is less what your goverment wishes for and that really erks them I suppose. We are few, We are united and proud to be your pain in the ARSE !


Any more questions?

Edited by MadArmo, 22 February 2007 - 08:27 PM.


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Posted 22 February 2007 - 09:38 PM

hell bloody yah

#43 zurderer

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 05:41 AM

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ROA is properly integrating with the world, even through your blocade.


Like what? Trading with another isolated country?(Iran)

Anyway, You dont see my point, you are isolated from international politics. (I dont think economic isolation would continue another 100 year, but If It continue that long, Armenian lifes would be more more difficult.)

And I am not sure, how trade between ROA and Turkey will effect outcome. It would enhance your economy but make you more vulnerable to your enemy nation, Turks.

You have nothing to offer us,azeris or georgians. what do armenians have for trade at international politics?how will armenia become a power without any friendly nation?

You have not much choice but to bow every wish russia want, so you are isolated from world. ROA is a puppet russia nothing more.

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one thing that armenia has over you with europe is it's western-ish culture and religion...this, in some way gets europeans to see armenia in a different eye, then islamist middle-eastern turkey...even though you have a direct border with europe


I think you are overestimating culture thing. national interest is much more important than culture.

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im not saying that because we are christian we are united, for as you know, france is quite secular, but what i mean to say is that our cultures have many points in common....


What did France or USA do for armenians at ww1 when they are more religious than now. When they are more powerful against Turkey(They refused sacrify so little to force Turks to retreat from eastern anatolia.)

No county(Including Russia) will sacrify her sons or benefit for ROA. Religion is nothing more than a tool at international politics.

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so let me ask you, how is turkey planning to integrate?


we are already integrated economically with world. Politically, should I talk about this?


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Posted 26 February 2007 - 05:46 AM

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What planet are you really from? We have for centuries PAL ! Are you in denial of our historical existance as well ? Since your goverment purges information from your schools & text books. Here is reality for you to digest we were on the map long before your nomadic tribes attacked...


My friend, history is history is history. Dont live at past.

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As for Armenians from the diaspora we are all the same offcourse, All children & grandchildren of survivors from genocide perpetrated by your Ottoman forfathers,


so, you are same because of genocide?

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Assimilation rate is less what your goverment wishes for and that really erks them I suppose. We are few, We are united and proud to be your pain in the ARSE !


True, you are few and united and becoming fewer. I agree, you are realy a pain in the arse.

Anyway, what do you think life of diaspora? how many year, It will survive as a moderate power? 100?200? 300 year?




#45 Aratta-Kingdom

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 12:55 PM

[quote name='zurderer' date='Feb 26 2007, 03:41 AM' post='190867']
"Like what? Trading with another isolated country?(Iran)"


Banking, you poteto selling moron. Armenia is about to become the Silicom Valley in the caucuses. In the field of science, armenians stand equaly with the world. Armenians have a brain power-something a barbarian turks like you knows nothing about.




"Anyway, You dont see my point, you are isolated from international politics."


International politics defined by the turks and azeris? LOL




"(I dont think economic isolation would continue another 100 year, but If It continue that long, Armenian lifes would be more more difficult.)"



You are talking about blocade of Armenia by turkey and azerbaijan? Do you honestly believe you will survive that long? The faith of turkey is similar to the faith of Iraq. You have no future.




"And I am not sure, how trade between ROA and Turkey will effect outcome. It would enhance your economy but make you more vulnerable to your enemy nation, Turks."


LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL what is it you think you can sell to Armenia? poteto? cucumbers? or maybe the dry azeri oil fields?




"You have nothing to offer us,azeris or georgians. what do armenians have for trade at international politics?how will armenia become a power without any friendly nation?"


to turkey and azerbaijan we have a stick to offer so you can put in your a$$. since you don't represent the georgians, let me tell you what the georgian president has to say about the subject

PanARMENIAN.Net/ Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili is impressed with Armenia’s economic growth. The Georgian President during his visit to Brussels stated, that he is “impressed with Armenia’s development speed and economic growth”. “I was also impressed with reforms that are being carried out in the republic,” Mikheil Saakashvili stressed, Mediamax reports. During his visit to Brussels Georgian President will meet with leadership of the European Union and NATO.



here is a lesson for you from history.

"If you are not influenced by humane considerations," I replied, "think of the material loss. These people are your business men. They control many of your industries. They are very large tax-payers. What would become of you commercially without them?"

"We care nothing about the commercial loss," repliet Talaat. -By Henry Morgenhau, U.S. Ambassador to Turkey












"You have not much choice but to bow every wish russia want, so you are isolated from world."


you mean turkish world?




"I think you are overestimating culture thing."

who let this animal out of the cage?



"national interest is much more important than culture."


culture is a national interest you moron. when tourists go to turkey, they don't go to see the ugly face of the turks. they want to see the historical monuments built by the armenians and the greeks.




"What did France or USA do for armenians at ww1 when they are more religious than now. When they are more powerful against Turkey(They refused sacrify so little to force Turks to retreat from eastern anatolia.)"


You were out of the armenian territories until the zionists (the young turks+kemalist, the bolsheviks and those close to President Wilson) have decided the survivors of the genocide must be left in a land 10 times less than their historical homelans. We have survived the Genocide and we are back to claim what righfully belongs to us. How many time you morons approched the Armenians from diaspora asking to give up all their claims in exchange for turkey to recognize the Armenian genocide?





"No county(Including Russia) will sacrify her sons or benefit for ROA. Religion is nothing more than a tool at international politics."


No country(Including Russia) must sacrifice her sons for Armenia. In fact, it's the armenians who gave great general, such as Suvorov, Kotozov and many other to the Russians. In WWII, armenians gave 4 Marshals and over hundred generals. You don't think that counts for something, do you ? Also, I will never get tired of saying the azeri turks had the support of Turkey, Pakistan, Israel + the jews from all parts of the world, the oil companies, thousands of arab, afghan and chechen terrorists and they still lost the war in Karabakh. Wasn't that enough for you?




"we are already integrated economically with world. Politically, should I talk about this?"




LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL YES! What is the lates report from E.U.? Only couple of days ago the people of Chekoslovakia have raised their voic and joined other Europeans by saying we don't want Turkey. Tell me, who are you dealing with now? Who are your friends in the world of politics?



#46 Aratta-Kingdom

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE(zurderer @ Feb 26 2007, 03:46 AM)  

"My friend, history is history is history. Dont live at past."

"Who remembers the Armenains, after all"-Hitler
An animal like you who has no history will preach others to forget history.



"so, you are same because of genocide?"


whoever we are, we are nothing like the barbarian turks.





"True, you are few and united and becoming fewer."

That was the dream of turkish pig Ozal. "We will teach them the lessons of 1915" Those were his words. As you can see, you failled again.




"I agree, you are realy a pain in the arse."


That's why you wanted to kill armenians, right?



"Anyway, what do you think life of diaspora? how many year, It will survive as a moderate power? 100?200? 300 year?"


So that is why the Armenian genocide issue was taboo in Turkey. You were hopping it would go away and the history will be rewriten by the butchers. wink.gif Let me say it again, you failed.





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Posted 27 February 2007 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE(zurderer @ Feb 26 2007, 03:46 AM)  

My friend, history is history is history. Dont live at past.


Here is what you need to learn from history. Otherwise, you will continue to knock the door of E.U. and your membership plea will always be turned down. They have paid your bills for over 80 years, they don't wanna do it again.

The Assassination of A Race
THE INDEPENDENT
OCTOBER 18, 1915

THE Armenians in Turkey before the present onslaught upon them numbered about two millions, but their importance in the empire is not to be measured by their numbers. Intellectually and physically they are vastly superior to the Turks. In education, enterprise, industry and love of home they surpass all the other races. Among all the peoples of Turkey they have been the quickest to catch the spirit of modern education and twentieth century progress. Within the last fifty years in the eastern part of Turkey wholly, and in a measure throughout the empire, they have been the artisans, the leaders in the learned professions and promoters of commercial enterprises. This ancient and proud-spirited race, conscious of its own innate superiority, ambitious to educate its children, Christian in its religion, and eager for an progress, cherished the hope of an independent Armenia reestablished upon the ruins of its ancient kingdom.



#48 Aratta-Kingdom

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 12:46 PM

ILHAM ALIYEV: “OUR POLICY MUST BE AGGRESSIVE, IT MUST ATTACK”



Monday Azeri President Ilham Aliyev addressed the audience in the course of the Parliament’s fall session.
“We should switch to the information and economic attack and strengthen our external potential”, stated I. Aliyev speaking about the ways of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict’s settlement, Day.az reports.
Aliyev reminded that being elected a President he had set increase of the military expenditure a principal goal. “We should put pressure on Armenia, otherwise it will hardy liberate our territories. We should also be ready for a war”, the President underscored. At the same time Aliyev noted using both political and economic factors Azerbaijan would be able to turn the heat on Armenia. “Yet, after Azerbaijan becomes a hundred times stronger than Armenia, the war may become unnecessary”, he believes.
According to the state’s Head, some opponents’ reproaches that the conflict has not been settled are groundless. “It happens because Azerbaijan cannot cope with unfavorable proposals. As a President I will not go to the proposals that do not meet the Azerbaijan’s interests. It is an issue number one, all our efforts should be directed to this”, the President stated.
Aliyev informed that the OSCE Minsk group Co-Chairs were arriving in the region current week.
“We do not deny the format, however, we believe other international organizations can also contribute to the peacemaking process”, he concluded.
Day.az, October 2, 2006

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DE FACTO INFORMATION-ANALYTICS AGENCY’S COMMENT


DE FACTO Information-Analytics Agency has repeatedly noted that if Azerbaijan resumed hostilities it would inevitably result in this state’s destruction. The Armenian armed subdivisions can terminate the Azerbaijani Republic’s short history. Perhaps, Azerbaijan must be ready for a war, as the first in the line of succession President believes. However, the Azerbaijan’s problem is that the Armenian subdivisions are ‘’ready” for such a course of events. And first of all it concerns the moral spirit’s level, though, as for armaments, we do not lag behind the Azeri army that spends hundreds of millions for its needs.
Generally speaking, a war, blasphemously as it may sound, is favorable for Armenians, who will face a country stuck in corruption and mutual accusations, where a part (the Turks) tries to assimilate all the national minorities. Nevertheless, even taking into consideration the situation, Armenia is peaceable as always, offering constructive approaches to the conflict’s settlement every time, unlike its reflexive neighbor that doubts if to begin a war with Armenia or not, yet, under condition that “Azerbaijan is a hundred times stronger than Armenia”.
However, Aliyev is not Hamlet, and Azerbaijan will never be “a hundred times” stronger than Armenia. Moreover, Azerbaijan will never be stronger than the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, as a party struggling for its Motherland always relies on the native land’s vivifying saps.
Maybe that is a reason that Azerbaijan denies negotiations with Nagorno-Karabakh, being aware that it has lost confrontation to it, and not Armenia. However, going on involving Armenia in the negotiation process, Azerbaijan is trying to lead the problem’s solution to the other sphere, where, as practice shows, nothing can be settled. Sure, Azerbaijan may not agree with the mediators’ proposals, no matter how weighted they are.
However, the fact can just strengthen the international image and authority of the NKR, which has been proving to the world its ability to protect its statehood, and not only at the battlefields, for fifteen years.
So, I. Aliyev will have to sit at the negotiating table with the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic President, who was been elected by the whole nation. The realities’ recognition is inevitable, even for the politicians staking on “the information and economic attack”.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(zurderer @ Feb 26 2007, 11:46 AM)  

My friend, history is history is history. Dont live at past.
so, you are same because of genocide?



True, you are few and united and becoming fewer. I agree, you are realy a pain in the arse.

Anyway, what do you think life of diaspora? how many year, It will survive as a moderate power? 100?200? 300 year?


Ok, So your ready for ridicule... History is my proof, Your arguments are not worthy of sarcasm from me. They are just not valid to require such effort. Listen every bit of recorded history gets examined to fight revisionisary arguments and must be validated by international tribunals. This has been established allready and the majority says Turks lack burden of proof to deny all attrocities. Guilty as charged !

Now, Diaspora Armenians are the same indeed, Why would you ask a silly question in the first place?

Diaspora will live indefinitely hope this does not disapoint too much


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Posted 28 February 2007 - 09:15 PM

history is history, but just because it is history is it a reason to forget it?..it obviously is for you...since attaturk changed your whole history...

the diaspora will always be strong, ....and if armenians have survived 5 thousand years, they can survive another 10




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