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ERDOGAN SLAMS EGYPT'S SISI AS 'ILLEGITIMATE TYRANT'

Arutz Sheva, Israel
July 18, 2014 Friday

by Elad Benari, Canada

Turkish Prime Minister says Egypt cannot be relied upon to negotiate
a truce with Israel.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Friday slammed Egypt's
President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi as an "illegitimate tyrant" and said
Cairo could not be relied upon to negotiate a truce with Israel.

"Is Sisi a party (to a ceasefire)? Sisi is a tyrant himself," Erdogan
was quoted by the AFP news agency as having told reporters.

"He is not different from the others," he said, adding that it was
Egypt's current rulers who were blocking humanitarian aid channels
to Gaza.

Egypt's Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukri responded and said Erdogan's
comments were "unacceptable".

"They have no link with the events in Gaza and do not help in the
protection of the people of Gaza," Shoukri said at a news conference
in Cairo with his Italian counterpart Federica Mogherini.

Erdogan should rather push all the concerned parties for a ceasefire
in Gaza, said Shoukri.

Erdogan, who portrays himself as the global Muslim leader who speaks
up for Palestinian Arab rights, said supporting an Egyptian proposal
for a ceasefire would mean legitimizing the administration in Egypt.

"Egypt is not a party ... They are trying to legitimize (the Sisi
administration) in Egypt. It is not a legitimate administration. It
is illegitimate," he said, lashing out at Israeli attempts to exclude
Hamas.

"Hamas is a party there," declared Erdogan.

Turkey"s relations with Egypt have been strained over the past year,
since the ouster of former Islamist president Mohammed Morsi.

Last year, Erdogan condemned the military intervention that toppled
Morsi as an enemy of democracy, following which Egypt"s foreign
ministry summoned Turkey"s ambassador to Cairo in protest against
"Ankara"s interference in Egyptian affairs."

Erdogan has also been critical of Israel over its operation in Gaza,
and threatened to end the normalization process with Israel over
"state terrorism."

On Thursday, Erdogan accused Israel of attempting a "systematic
genocide" of Palestinian Arabs in Gaza.

In response, Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz reminded Erdogan
of the Armenian Genocide of 1915.

 

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KATZ HITS BACK AT ERDOGAN: WHAT ABOUT THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE?

Arutz Sheva, Israel
July 19 2014

Transportation Minister hits back at Turkish PM after he accused
Israel of attempting a "systematic genocide" of Arabs in Gaza.

Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz (Likud) hit back at Turkish
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Thursday, after the latter
accused Israel of attempting a "systematic genocide" of Palestinian
Arabs in Gaza, in his strongest attack yet on the Jewish state over
self-defense campaign Operation Protective Edge.

In a post on his Facebook page, Katz reminded Erodgan of the Armenian
Genocide, when in 1915 more than a million Armenians were murdered
by Ottoman troops.

"In 1915 the Turks massacred a million and a half Armenians and he
accuses us, who are fighting his friends in the Islamic movement,
of genocide? Who wants a relationship with such a person?" wrote Katz.

In Thursday's remarks, Erdogan said, "We are witnessing this systematic
genocide every Ramadan. The Western world remains silent; so does
the Islamic world."

"Because those who lost their lives are Palestinian, you can't hear
their voices," he added.

Erdogan has become increasingly vocal over the operation, and
threatened to end the normalization process with Israel over "state
terrorism."

He has also accused Israel of "lies" because "not enough" Israeli
Jews have died in the conflict and has compared Jewish Home MK Ayelet
Shaked to Adolf Hitler.

In April, Erdogan offered condolences to the grandchildren of the
Armenians who were murdered by Ottoman troops.

http://www.israelnat...66#.U8nYZZtOXIU
 

[onjig]

Murks using the words: Illegitimate or Tyrant on anyone? If you look up ether word in the dictionary there would be a picture of a murk.

 

I noticed the hurya doesn't use the word Genocide back at the murk.

Edited by onjig, 19 July 2014 - 03:15 PM.

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The Political Football Continues

The Mirror Spactator
Editorial 7-26

By Edmond Y. Azadian


As soon as the World Cup was over in Rio, the political version of the
game resumed in Armenia's backyard, with the ball being the Armenian
Genocide.

Of course, eventually the issue of the Genocide appearing in the
political and international news is beneficial, especially on the eve
of the centennial. But we need to sort out who is taking advantage of
the complex situation of world politics and how that can impact
Armenia's standing on the issue.

With Armenia wrapped up in its local politics as well as its hardening
relations with Iran and Russia, it does not seem to have the global
reach to take part in the Middle East discourse.

It is not the first time that the Armenian Genocide has been rendered
into a political football; of all possible quarters, Ankara is
becoming the defender of people against whom genocide is perpetrated.
And, of course, this gives an opportunity to Turkey's adversaries to
point out Turkey's own skeletons in the closet, meaning the Armenian
Genocide.

Under Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey rose to the position
of an international political player, albeit, some of its feats were
based on rhetoric and cheap populism. Especially, the Arab street
throughout the Middle East was hungry for the feast of bravura Mr.
Erdogan was providing. He converted his popularity not only into
political dividends but also economic opportunities.

Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu wins accolades among hawks
with Israel's assault on Gaza, said Mahir Zeynalov, a journalist at
the English-language Turkish daily, Today's Zaman. There is another
leader who benefits from the tragedy in Gaza: Turkey's prime minister
who is skilled at exploiting Arab causes for his own political
ambitions. Now, it is time for Arabs to reject another leader who only
makes empty promises for political ends.

Indeed, Erdogan's heroic march in the Arabic popular imagination began
in Davos in 2009, when he had a fallout with Israel's President Shimon
Peres and walked off the stage, accusing Israel of committing Genocide
against the Palestinians. His popularity skyrocketed in the Muslim
world with the Mavi Marmara raid, which incurred 10 casualties at the
hands of Israeli forces.

While Erdogan was duping the Arab public, Turkish-Israeli military
contracts remained intact and the trade volume increased from $3.4
billion in 2008 to $4.4 billion in 2011 and exceeded $4 billion in
2012. It is reported that foreign trade between Turkey and Israel has
increased 27.6 percent in the first half of 2014 compared to the same
period in 2013.
In the meantime, Erdogan's son was continuing his lucrative business
in Israel. And Kurdish oil, running illegally from Iraq to Turkey, was
being sold to Israel.

With the Israeli raids on Gaza raging, Mr. Erdogan has, once again,
resorted to his mantle as the defender of the Palestinian cause. They
curse Hitler morning and night, Erdogan told thousands of supporters
in the Black Sea city of Ordu. However, now their barbarism has
surpassed even Hitler's.

Erdogan had already invoked Hitler on July 15 to criticize an Israeli
lawmaker. On July 18, he accused Israel of attempted genocide in Gaza.
Israel ordered the withdrawal of diplomats families from Turkey last
week after anti-Israel demonstrations there.

Even if Erdogan's rhetoric has lost its luster in the Arab world, it
continues to retain its value as domestic currency in his electoral
campaign.

The Israeli government has retaliated against Erdogan's accusations by
invoking the Armenian Genocide. Indeed, Arutz Sheva
(IsraelNationalnews.com) reports that Transportation Minister Yisrael
Katz of the Likud Party hit back at Turkish Prime Minister Recep
Tayyip Erdogan, after the latter accused Israel of attempting
systematic genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. In 1915 the Turks
massacred a million and a half Armenians and he accuses us, who are
fighting his friends in Islamic movement, of genocide? Who wants a
relationship with such a person?

Of course, this is a necessary quote for all journalists and
historians who deviously often characterize 1915 as what Armenians
call a genocide.But Mr. Katz statement will remain a self-serving
disingenuous sound bite if he does not go further by bringing the
Armenian Genocide issue before the Israeli parliament.

For Mr. Erdogan, the time of reckoning has also come in the Arab
world. He was the darling of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. During
former president Mohammed Morsi's administration, and even before,
Turkey had built inroads in Egyptian society and had permeated
academia to produce a number of articles in the news media and books
in scholarly circles promoting Turkish views on the issue of the
Armenian Genocide. Now, the tables have turned; not only are newspaper
articles being published but scholarly debates are conducted on TV
screens providing objective documentation on the Armenian Genocide.
And Mr. Erdogan has been demonstrating his genius in provoking such
rebuttals to his statements. Last week, he lambasted Egypt's President
Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi as an illegitimate tyrant and said Cairo could
not be relied upon to negotiate a truce with Israel.

A news item on Tahrirnews.com responds to Erdogan's statement once
again, referring to the Armenian Genocide: Dr. Ayman Salama, professor
of law and member of the Egyptian Council for Foreign Affairs said
that Turkeys prime minister has made clumsy statements blaming the
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi and insulting the Egyptian
political system. He further pointed out that it is surprising that
Erdogan speaks of tyranny in Egypt, forgetting the centennial of the
horrible genocide of the Armenians in the 20th century, committed by
Erdogan's Ottoman grandparents.

As we can see, the issue of the Armenian Genocide has become a
political currency in the turmoil of the Middle East and Armenians
have no way of capitalizing on it.

The war in Gaza and the crash of the Malaysian airliner in Ukraine are
two major events dominating the news and the Genocide issue is popping
out of nowhere when politicians need to settle scores. However, it has
become a marginal issue rather than one that can stand on its own in
the global landscape.

If we had a strong and organized diaspora, serving as an extension of
Armenia's foreign policy establishment, we could bank all these
developments and derive dividends for the Armenian cause.

At this crucial junction of history, the diaspora remains rudderless
and Armenia can hardly deal with its own challenges, much less right a
historic wrong. And thus we are allowing history to bypass us yet
again.

Meanwhile, the political football continues.
 

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Hey Erdogan while you are there at the international criminal court, could you answer about your crimes against the Armenians!!!!!!!!

 

Erdogan says Israel should be tried at international criminal court

July 24, 2014 - 22:02 AMT


PanARMENIAN.Net - Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Thursday, July
24, Turkey would push for Israel to be tried at an international
criminal court if it kept up its assault on Gaza and he accused the
Jewish state of "spitting blood", according to Reuters.

Turkey, a member of the U.S.-led NATO military alliance, was once
Israel's closest regional ally but has become one of its most
vitriolic critics, with Erdogan last weekend accusing it of
"surpassing Hitler in barbarism" with its Gaza offensive.

"If Israel continues with this attitude, it will definitely be tried
at international courts," Erdogan, who is campaigning for a
presidential election on Aug. 10, told a rally of supporters in the
southern port city of Mersin.

"We will see this happen and Turkey will struggle for this," he told
the cheering crowd.

Turkey was once considered by Washington as a credible broker in the
Middle East peace process, particularly given its channels of
communication with Islamist group Hamas, but that changed as Erdogan
adopted an increasingly anti-Israel stance.

"At the moment, Hamas is prepared for everything in order to achieve a
ceasefire... (Palestinian President Mahmoud) Abbas is prepared too,"
Erdogan told CNN news channel in an interview.

"Israel is not even approaching such a thing and is spitting death,
spitting blood," he said, in comments translated by the broadcaster
from Turkish and aired on Thursday, according to Reuters.

He stood by his comments likening Israel's actions to those of Hitler
and said the Jewish state was committing genocide.

"It is beyond comprehension that Israel is still defended by the West
and the world is silent about it. Therefore we cannot remain silent
and we will not be silent," Erdogan said.


http://www.panarmeni...ng/news/181059/

 

[Yervant1]

Armenians warned you on several occasions that you can't trust them. What did you do, help them to stop the Armenian Genocide resolutions and reject the Armenian genocide in the Knesset. Sorry to tell you, we told you so!

 

US Jews Demand Erdogan Return Award after Gaza Comments

Thursday, July 24th, 2014

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan


ANKARA (The Jerusalem Post)'An American Jewish organization is
demanding that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip ErdoÄ?an return an
award it gave him a decade ago over his recent remarks on Israel's
military operation in Gaza.

Calling him `arguably the most virulent anti-Israel leader in the
world,' American Jewish Congress President Jack Rosen accused the
Prime Minister of `spewing dangerous rhetoric for political gain and
inciting the Turkish population to violence against the Jewish
people.'

Erdogan received the American Jewish Congress' Profile of Courage
award in 2004 after making statements affirming his commitment to
protect Turkish Jewry, eradicate terrorism and broker a Middle East
peace deal.
`We want [the award] back,' Rosen wrote Erdogan on Wednesday,
informing the head of state that his statements had not only done
`irreparable damage to Jewish-Turkish relations and put innocent
people at risk' but had also caused him to forfeit his seat `at the
table of legitimate mediators working to end the current conflict
between Israel and Hamas.'

Erdogan's stated views on the conflict are `abhorrent,' Rosen declared.

Since Israel's ground forces entered the Gaza strip last Thursday,
Erdogan has been among Israel's harshest critics, calling it a `terror
state' and accusing Jerusalem of perpetrating a `systematic genocide'
against the Palestinians.

Israeli barbarism, he stated, has `surpassed' that of Hitler.

Yeni Akit, a pro-government newspaper in Istanbul, recently ran an
article by journalist Faruk Köse calling on Turkish Jews to issue a
communal apology on behalf of Israel while attacks on Israel's embassy
and consulate in Ankara and Istanbul prompted Jerusalem to withdraw
some of its diplomatic staff.

http://asbarez.com/1...-gaza-comments/

 

 

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Turkey: Erdogan accuses Israel of blocking Gaza humanitarian aid

11:50 ¢ 26.07.14


Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has accused Israel of
preventing the transfer of humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip, in his
latest verbal salvo against Tel Aviv, Hurriyet Daily News reports.

`The barbaric massacre that Israel has launched in Gaza is going on at
full speed. The United Nations is silent about the massacre;
furthermore, it is encouraging Israel,' ErdoÄ?an said on July 25,
delivering a speech in the Central Anatolian province of EskiÅ?ehir
during the inauguration of the Ankara-Istanbul high-speed railway
line.

`You see those mothers, don't you? There are almost 800 martyrs in
Gaza. At the moment, we are having difficulty in sending even
humanitarian aid. We shall send medicine and food, but it [Israel] is
trying to prevent even that. But we will reach out to there sooner or
later,' he added.

In Cairo on the same day, after holding several meetings with US
Secretary of State John Kerry and Egyptian officials aimed at ending
the conflict, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called for an immediate
`humanitarian pause' in the fighting in Gaza, lasting through the
Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr.

Erdogan, meanwhile, also suggested that an `immoral' smear campaign
had been launched against him both inside the country and abroad,
attempting to portray of him as an anti-Semite.

`They are conducting an immoral campaign by distorting our remarks
both inside and abroad and trying to show us as anti-Semitic. But I am
perhaps the first prime minister in the world to say that
anti-Semitism is a crime against humanity,' he said.

He also added, however, that European officials had so far been
reluctant to label Islamophobia as a crime against humanity in the
same way as anti-Semitisim.

The remarks came only a day after a Jewish American group asked
Erdogan to return an award it gave him in 2004, accusing the Turkish
leader of `dangerous rhetoric' and `inciting violence against the
Jewish people.'

In an open letter to ErdoÄ?an on July 24, Jack Rosen, the president of
the American Jewish Congress, said the Turkish prime minister had
become `arguably the most virulent anti-Israel leader in the world.'

Erdogan, who is campaigning to be elected president next month, has
spoken out strongly against the ongoing military operations in Gaza,
accusing Israel of committing `genocide' and `barbarism surpassing
Hitler.'


Armenian News - Tert.am
 

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New York Daily News
July 28 2014


Erdogan's odious anti-Semitic slander

Turkey denies its own genocide and accuses Israel

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Recep Tayyip Erdogan's anti-Semitism is getting the better of him.
Once again, the Turkish prime minister has trotted out the Hitler
analogy in relation to Israel and what it has done in Gaza. "They
curse Hitler morning and night," he said of the Israelis. "However,
now their barbarism has surpassed even Hitler's."

Erdogan's Hitler fetish is both revolting and inaccurate. Hitler
murdered an estimated 6 million Jews, not to mention millions of
Poles, Russians, Gypsies and, as a group, homosexuals; the Israelis
have killed in the current Gaza operation more than 1,000
Palestinians. The difference between murdered and killed -- the former
on purpose, the latter mostly what's called "collateral damage" --
ought to be clear to anyone whose mind is not addled by anti-Semitism.

Israel has gone out of its way to try to avoid civilian deaths. It has
often -- maybe too often -- not succeeded. But it has warned civilians
with telephone calls and text messages and even dummy bombs hitting
the roof. This, I point out, is far more than President Obama has done
when American drones kill terrorists in Pakistan or wherever. Hamas
militants are also terrorists and they hide, as every guerrilla army
has ever done, among the people.

The loss of civilian life is awful, but it is no Holocaust. It is,
though, an opportunity for anti-Semites, latent or otherwise, to
express their bigotry. Their implied statement is that the Jews had it
coming -- see how they act now! Their bigotry overpowers their logic
and they deliriously lose all sense of proportion -- 6 million versus
1,000 or so in Gaza -- and they conflate the killer with the killed. It
is repugnant.

For Erdogan, the handier and closer to home reference would have been
what the Turks did to the Armenians. This genocide -- the very word was
coined by Raphael Lemkin to encompass what happened to 1.5 million
Armenians during and after World War I -- has been roundly denied by
the Turkish government. In a dizzying feat of irrationality, the head
of that government brushes past the crimes of his own nation to point
an accusatory finger at the victims of another nation.

Erdogan's remarks are merely the reductio ad absurdum of the
anti-Israel argument. Some accuse Israel of a hideous lack of
proportionality without pausing to say what the proper proportion of
death and destruction should be. Would Hamas have ceased firing
rockets into Israel if Israel had bombed less? Somehow, I think not.
Would Hamas have blown up its own tunnels if Israel had ceased its
attack after, say, a week? Again, no.

After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, did the U.S. go into Afghanistan
to kill exactly 2,977 Al Qaeda and Taliban, an eye for every eye
extinguished on that infamous day? Israel is a small nation of only
about 8 million people, more than a fifth of them Arabs.
Proportionality is a luxury beyond its reach.

It is clear that much of the world has grown weary of Israel. Its
persistent settlement of the West Bank is surely cause for
indignation. Yet there is an edge to the outrage that is elsewhere
lacking. When did thousands gather in Europe to protest the Syrian
slaughter -- not just the government's abhorrent bombing, use of gas
and repression, but the torture and murder of about 10,000 activists
and dissidents? It was a mass murder that the Syrian government
studiously archived -- photos and such -- which surely deserves the Nazi
analogy that comes so easily to the tongue of Erdogan and others. No
matter. Silence.

I take psychiatric theories with a grain of salt, but the effort of
Erdogan to make the victim worse than the victimizer is not only false
and tasteless, it is psychologically intriguing. It does more than
blame the victim. It tends to exonerate the criminal. History is
repeating itself -- not, as Marx said, as either tragedy or farce, but
in Erdogan's telling as pornography.

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1883338
 

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Turkish PM happy to return American-Jewish 'peace' award

Published time: July 29, 2014 15:24
http://on.rt.com/qxnley


Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (AFP Photo / Ozan Kose)

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan says he will gladly return an
award given to him by a Jewish-American association a decade ago in a
letter released by his office, which also called on the US group to
condemn Israel's government policies in Gaza.

The New York-based American Jewish Congress said in a letter to
Erdogan last week that he had become the world's "most virulent
anti-Israeli leader" and it demanded that he return the prize. He had
been given the award partly for his efforts to broker peace between
Israel and the Palestinians 10 years ago.

"Prime Minister Erdogan will be glad to return the award given back in
2004," Turkey's ambassador to Washington Serdar Kilic said in the
letter addressed to American Jewish Congress President Jack Rosen.

Erdogan's office released a copy of the letter to the media,
describing it as Turkey's official response.

"The absence of this award will not prevent Prime Minister Erdogan
from resolutely fighting against terrorism, working towards the
peaceful solution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and upholding
the safety and well-being of the Jewish community in Turkey," the
letter continued.

Rosen's open letter to Erdogan had cited the Turkish leader's recent
comments that Israel had "surpassed Hitler in barbarism" through its
attacks on Gaza. However, there is widespread anger in Turkey at
Israel's offensive in Gaza.

"Attempts to depict Prime Minister Erdogan's legitimate criticisms of
the Israeli government's attacks on civilians as expressions of
anti-Semitism is an obvious distortion and an effort to cover up the
historical wrongdoings of the Israeli government," the ambassador's
letter said.

People take part in a demonstration outside the Israeli Embassy in the
Turkish capital Ankara, on July 19, 2014, to protest against Israel's
military campaign in Gaza and show their support to the Palestinian
people. Banner reads : "The Free world remains silent to the cruelty".
(AFP Photo / Adem Altan)

"We would like to urge you to publicly condemn the Israeli
government's policies that have caused public outrage around the
world," it added.

The Palestinian death toll in the conflict is climbing and has already
exceeded 1,100, while the number of wounded is over 6,200, with the
majority of those civilians. Over 50 Israelis have been killed since
the beginning of the Gaza offensive on July 8.

The US State Department called Erdogan's earlier remarks, in which he
likened an Israeli MP to Hitler and said the Jewish state was
terrorizing the region, "offensive and wrong."

Turkey, a member of the U.S.-led NATO military alliance, was once
Israel's closest regional ally. Washington considered it a credible
broker in the Middle East peace process.

Relations between Ankara and Washington soured when Obama failed to
use force against Syria, which led to Erdogan ceasing to hold phone
conversations with the US President.

Erdogan, a supporter of rebel fighters opposed to Syrian President
Bashar Assad's government, was upset, he said, that the United States
did not follow through with military action against Damascus amid the
fierce civil war there.

"In the past, I was calling him (Obama) directly. Because I can't get
the expected results on Syria, our foreign ministers are now talking
to each other," Erdogan said in an interview with the pro-government
ATV channel.

There have been protests in Turkey following Israel's actions in Gaza.
Thousands gathered outside the Israeli Embassy in Ankara on July 18,
with pro-Palestinian activists chanting slogans such as "Hail to the
resistance from Istanbul to Gaza," "Murderer Israel, get out of
Palestine," and "Strike, strike Hamas; strike against Israel."
Demonstrators also waved Turkish and Palestinian flags.

Erdogan is expected to win the August 10 presidential election in
Turkey. Should he win the race, many analysts expect him to be more
assertive with Turkish foreign policy.
 

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http://www.israelnat...63#.U9hVGGKxJoM

That's not genocide, Mr. Erdogan. THIS is genocide.
By William A. Levinson
7/29/2014

Erdogan calls Israel more barbaric than Hitler quotes Turkish Prime
Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan as saying,

`Since [Israel's creation] in 1948, we have been witnessing this
attempt at systematic genocide every day and every month,' he said.
`But above all, we are witnessing this attempt at systematic genocide
every Ramadan.'

Erdogan added, ""They curse Hitler day and night, but they have
surpassed Hitler in barbarism."

It seems that Mr. Erdogan needs some help with the English language,
because he clearly does not understand "genocide." Genocide is defined
as the "deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial,
political, or cultural group." Bending over backward to avoid hitting
enemy civilians, even to the extent of recklessly endangering the
lives of one's own soldiers and civilians, is not genocide, I say
"recklessly" because Israel's restraint far exceeds that required by
the Geneva and Hague Conventions, both of which allow you to fire on
legitimate military targets regardless of collateral damage. That's as
in, "If you don't want us to bomb a mosque, school, or hospital, don't
use it as a gun or rocket emplacement."

What Israel is doing to defend itself from Islamist terrorists, Mr.
Erdogan, is not genocide. THIS, Mr. Erdogan, is genocide.

[Image: Belsen-Bergen and Hamidian Massacre Public domain due to age]

The Hamidian Massacre was, of course, just a prelude to Islamist
Turkish barbarism against Christian Armenians.

The genocide was carried out during and after World War I and
implemented in two phases: the wholesale killing of the able-bodied
male population through massacre and subjection of army consc?ripts to
forced labor, followed by the deportation of women, children, the
elderly and infirm on death marches leading to the Syrian desert.
Driven forward by military escorts, the deportees were deprived of
food and water and subjected to periodic robbery, rape, and massacre.

Maybe the Bataan Death March was an off the shelf solution that Mr.
Erdogan's country provided to the Imperial Japanese roughly 25 years
later.

The following propaganda poster uses public domain images (the one at
left is a trophy photograph by the Nazis, the one at the right is
pre-1922) and, if Mr. Erdogan wants to blood libel Israel with false
accusations of genocide, we will simply tell the truth about his
murderous country; a major source of the world's problems for more
than six hundred years. It is important that this material circulate
because, as stated by Colonel Paul Linebarger's Psychological Warfare,
leaflet bundles that don't scatter leave little impression on the
enemy, unless they land on his head. (If a full-sized image cannot be
downloaded, please let me know, and I'll provide a link to a
full-sized one.)

[Image: Nazi and Turkish Genocide Public domain images]

Finally, since Mr. Erdogan wants to bring Hitler into the picture,
let's talk about Turkey's influence on this mass murderer.

I have issued the command--and I'll have anybody who utters but one
word of criticism executed by a firing squad--that our war aim does
not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction
of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formations in
readiness--for the present only in the East--with orders to them to
send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and
children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain
the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks
today of the annihilation of the Armenians?


Hitler and Erdogan: "Who Remembers the Armenians?"

Holocaust denial is nothing new, either; Mr. Erdogan's country is an
expert at it.

MONTREAL, Canada--An effort by Canadian Turks to abolish curriculum on
the Armenian genocide in Toronto schools has failed, with education
officials telling Rudaw that the genocide will continue to be taught
for years to come.

There is a saying to the effect that people who live in glass houses
should not throw bricks, and those who live in gunpowder magazines
should not play with fire. Mr. Erdogan has chosen to do both, and he
has taken his country to PsyWar territory that is a very bad place for
it to go; invocation of the word "genocide." He has sown the wind, so
now let him reap the whirlwind.
 

[Yervant1]

Ha'aretz, Israel
July 27 2014


Constantinople's little-known rift with its reps in Ottoman Palestine


Djemal Pasha, the governor of Syria, recommended that all Jewish
immigration be outlawed and that the Jews be expelled from Palestine.

By Nir Hasson | Jun. 27, 2014

On October 1, 1917, a company of Turkish soldiers surrounded Zichron
Yaakov. The Ottoman government had just discovered the existence of
the Nili underground group, which was created to help the British take
over Ottoman Palestine. Some of the underground members, including
Sarah Aaronsohn, were captured, jailed and tortured, while some others
managed to escape. The most famous among those who got away was Yosef
Lishansky, one of the founders of the group. The soldiers surrounding
Zichron Yaakov were there in attempts to convince the townspeople to
give him up.

Numerous historical sources in Hebrew recall the speech made by the
Turkish governor. He threatened to do to the Jews what was done to the
Armenians (the Armenian genocide was at its zenith at the time.) A
telegraph recently uncovered in the Turkish prime ministerial archive
reinforces these accounts. Sent by the Turkish interior minister,
Nazar Talaat, to the governor of Beirut, who also oversaw Zichron
Yaakov, the telegraph read: "In the village of Zamrin (Zichron
Yaakov,) in the Haifa district, the Kamikam (governor) told the people
that if they do not hand over the spy Lishansky, their fate will be
like the Armenians, as I am involved in the deaths of the Armenians."

Although Turkey has staunchly denied the Armenian genocide during the
decades that have passed, the telegram indicates that it was a known
secret and a legitimate threat throughout the empire at the time. In
the response, which like all telegrams back then was encoded, the
interior minister asked the governor to investigate claims that the
Nili members were tortured.

"Head of the village in question, Albert, and residents Nisan Rothman,
Fishel Aaronsohn, Hans and Fishel's daughter Sarah, were brutally
beaten and tortured," read the telegram. "The Aharonson girl committed
suicide after the beating. An investigation must be conducted as soon
as possible and results must be sent.|

The telegraph has been published as part of research conducted by Dr.
Yuval Ben-Bassat of Haifa University and an article about it will be
published in a special World War I centennial issue of Zmanim, a
journal published by Tel Aviv and Haifa universities.

Ben-Bassat has spent much of the past decade researching the hundreds
of thousands of Ottoman documents in the Turkish prime ministerial
archive, which has been largely untouched by historians. "Our history
has always been written from either the Zionist or the
Arab-Palestinian angle," says Ben-Bassat. "Only a few historians have
looked at the Ottoman angle. We should remember there was an empire
here."

In an earlier study, Ben-Bassat uncovered petitions sent by Arabs in
Palestine to the Sultan, dealing mainly with their fears of the
Zionist yishuv. His latest study focuses on the telegraphs between
Constantinople (today Istanbul) and Palestine during World War I.
Among other things, the documents reveal significant disagreements
between the Turkish government in Palestine, and the government in the
imperial capital.

The leadership in Palestine, led by Ahmed Djemal Pasha, who was
governor in Syria, commander of the fleet and one three rulers of the
empre in its final years, dealt mostly with preparing to withhold
British invasion from the south and combating both real and imaginary
spy threats. Constantinople, on the other hand, saw the larger
picture, including the empire's relations with the rest of the world.
The empire was rather sensitive to international criticism of human
rights violations in Palestine.

For example, one of the most important issues to come up was the
question of expelling Jews from Tel Aviv. The expulsion was meant in
theory to prevent harm from coming to civilians, but it actually
stemmed from fear of a "fifth column" that would assist the British.
The expulsion was a humanitarian nightmare for Tel Aviv residents. The
central government was worried about their fate and the public
relations damage that would ensue. "Please inform us as to where they
were sent, how they were housed and what kind of medical care they
were provided," wrote the interior minister to the Jerusalem district
commander. In another telegraph, Djemal Pasha writes about "evil
rumors circulating in Europe," regarding the fate of the Jews expelled
from Tel Aviv, and asked that the Spanish consul investigate the
affair in order to compile a neutral report.

"Differences in opinion and knowledge between Djemal Pasha and the
government in Istanbul were very substantial," says Ben-Bassat. "They
approach him again and again to ask if those expelled could be
returned; they ask him about the damage done to the empire's image. On
the other hand, it seems that Pasha did not see the big picture."

The exchange of words sheds light on Djemal Pasha, who was a key
figure in Palestine at the time. Both the Zionists and the Arabs
remember him as a powerful and cruel leader, who violently put down
any anti-Turkish nationalism. In one document, he lists six steps that
the empire should take to thwart Zionism. "(The Zionists) are a huge
disaster for Palestine. They have built an independent court in Jaffa,
and are working to expand their autonomy," wrote Pasha.

Pasha suggested completely outlawing Jewish immigration, even if the
immigrant were to take on Ottoman citizenship. He also recommended
preventing the Jewish yishuv from growing, prohibiting foreigners
(most likely representatives of Baron Rothschild) from involvement in
running the Jewish settlements and forbidding foreign citizens from
creating secret organizations. His last suggestion was, in effect, to
expel all the Jews from Palestine.

"Among the cursed Zionists, only 30-40 Russian Jews asked to receive
Ottoman citizenship. I believe that their request should be rejected
and they be expelled. With regards to the rest of the Jews, I believe
they should all be sent away. I'm asking for your permission, so as
not to act against the decisions of the central government."

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