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#41 Anonymouse

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Sasun @ Jan 15 2004, 01:56 PM)
Nice Evelina, I think you should fill out an application to Anonymouse tongue.gif

I don't require applications, and besides she wouldn't fit mine in a million worlds.

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 03:29 PM

QUOTE (Anonymouse @ Jan 16 2004, 04:21 PM)
I don't require applications, and besides she wouldn't fit mine in a million worlds.

I was never a good matchmaker sad.gif

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (anileve @ Jan 15 2004, 02:32 PM)
You guys are a riot!!! laugh.gif lol.gif Well actually THOTH, the reason why you encompass all of those wonderful characteristics of an ideal man is because you are partly a feminist. All of the wonderful men I have met have one thing in common, they understand and respect the women’s movement and admire women, and that is the reason they get the same in return from their partners and female friends!

Yet men that are simply bitter and judgmental and authoritative without a broader sense of acceptance only receive bitterness from women in return, that is the reason why they sit and complain about the constantly changing roles. They no longer can find a purpose for their "deteriorating" manhood! laugh.gif

Application to Anon, Sasun? Interesting, I don't think he fits the bill my dear, he processes only about 25% of the requirements so 25% is all that he will receive in return! wink.gif lol.gif

Gee, so when someone disagrees with feminisms raving of "equality" they are somehow lacking understanding and suffering from "deteriorating manhood" when initially it is your inferiority that troubles you and you try to compensate for it with some vague ideology of "feminism" which in its core preaches "equality" yet there is no such thing. Then you feminazis go on believing that those who disagree with feminism want to hold women down in shackles, that is not true, nor is what I stated.

The problem with your embracing of feminism is that it is based on something not real, such as "equality". So let's recap what Mises said, which I agree with:


"So far as feminism seeks to adjust [woman’s] legal position to that of man, so far as it seeks to offer her legal and economic freedom to develop and act in accordance with her inclinations, desires, and economic circumstances, so far it is nothing more than a branch of the great liberal movement, which advocates peaceful and free evolution. When, going beyond this, it attacks the institutions of social life under the impression that it will thus be able to remove the natural barriers, it is a spiritual child of socialism. For it is a characteristic of socialism to discover in social institutions the origin of unalterable facts of nature, and to endeavor, by reforming these institutions, to reform nature."

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE (Sasun @ Jan 16 2004, 03:29 PM)
I was never a good matchmaker sad.gif

Don't worry lad, feminazis don't count.

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (Anonymouse @ Jan 16 2004, 05:30 PM)
Gee, so when someone disagrees with feminisms raving of "equality" they are somehow lacking understanding and suffering from "deteriorating manhood" when initially it is your inferiority that troubles you and you try to compensate for it with some vague ideology of "feminism" which in its core preaches "equality" yet there is no such thing. Then you feminazis go on believing that those who disagree with feminism want to hold women down in shackles, that is not true, nor is what I stated.

The problem with your embracing of feminism is that it is based on something not real, such as "equality". So let's recap what Mises said, which I agree with:


"So far as feminism seeks to adjust [woman’s] legal position to that of man, so far as it seeks to offer her legal and economic freedom to develop and act in accordance with her inclinations, desires, and economic circumstances, so far it is nothing more than a branch of the great liberal movement, which advocates peaceful and free evolution. When, going beyond this, it attacks the institutions of social life under the impression that it will thus be able to remove the natural barriers, it is a spiritual child of socialism. For it is a characteristic of socialism to discover in social institutions the origin of unalterable facts of nature, and to endeavor, by reforming these institutions, to reform nature."

"I – MAN! You – woman! I kill, you cook, and then we make little Hitlers!" hitler.gif

I’m sorry I don’t comprehend chauvinistic talk, care to speak human language or have you been hiding in the caves of the dark woods for too long to remember?

Anon I have a great idea for a Halloween costume for you below…

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (anileve @ Jan 16 2004, 05:09 PM)
"I – MAN! You – woman! I kill, you cook, and then we make little Hitlers!" hitler.gif

I’m sorry I don’t comprehend chauvinistic talk, care to speak human language or have you been hiding in the caves of the dark woods for too long to remember?

Anon I have a great idea for a Halloween costume for you below…

Well, classic example of a feminazi resorting to childish name calling. Not surprisingly your insistence on doing encores is greated with cries of "Haven't you inflicted enough humiliation and embarrassment upon yourself in one night?"



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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE (Anonymouse @ Jan 16 2004, 07:27 PM)
Well, classic example of a feminazi resorting to childish name calling. Not surprisingly your insistence on doing encores is greated with cries of "Haven't you inflicted enough humiliation and embarrassment upon yourself in one night?"


What? I am sorry my visual is getting a bit blurry; all I see is a bunch of swastikas. Hail HTLER!

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:35 PM

Was hitler against feminism?

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:41 PM

He used his companion Eva Braun mercilessly and was pretty much about everything illogical. That should be enough of a parallel.

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (anileve @ Jan 16 2004, 05:34 PM)
What? I am sorry my visual is getting a bit blurry; all I see is a bunch of swastikas. Hail HTLER!

I'm sorry I don't follow.

But back to the topic. Are you a rational being capable of a rational discussion?

Edited by Anonymouse, 16 January 2004 - 05:43 PM.


#51 Anonymouse

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:45 PM

QUOTE (anileve @ Jan 16 2004, 05:41 PM)
He used his companion Eva Braun mercilessly and was pretty much about everything illogical. That should be enough of a parallel.

I'm now equal with Hitler. Your effeminate friend Thoth has labeled me an anti-Semite in the other section for daring to criticize Israel and Zionism.

Funny world we live in where the whiners can do no wrong, and those who bring forth questions are the ones to be smeared and labeled with names.

Talk about illogical. If you had half the logic you pretend to have, you would have addressed the problem of "equality" long ago.

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (Anonymouse @ Jan 16 2004, 06:45 PM)
I'm now equal with Hitler. Your effeminate friend Thoth has labeled me an anti-Semite in the other section for daring to criticize Israel and Zionism.

Funny world we live in where the whiners can do no wrong, and those who bring forth questions are the ones to be smeared and labeled with names.

Talk about illogical. If you had half the logic you pretend to have, you would have addressed the problem of "equality" long ago.

So you say you see nothig wrong with women working or such (acting according to her inclinations as your pal Mises states...etc) - but a man who does housework or what have you (perhaps necceasary as an equal partner with a working wife...I mean we can't expect her to do it all no?) - no no to that eh? Again - as I have said all along I can read you loud and clear.

You are the biggest coward and charlatan I have ever come accross on the net (probably worse then the worst of Turks I have met) - hiding behind pseudo intellectual blabber - when your true beliefs are plain to see - yet you are to much of a coward to admit. (isn't cowardice the primo sign of effimininity?)

You are a women hater and a Jew hater. And critiquing Israel or Zionism is not the criteria - as I certainly do both as it fits. You have a deap seared hatred or Jews and of women - a typical INFERIORITY complaex if I've ever seen one...pitiful man....

And me effeminate*...thats a laugh...I fart in your general direction!

* and for the record (Dan, Sasun etc al) - I see nothing at all wrong with men who wish to be effeminate - or who are for whatever reason...to each their own...do whatever you want woty you life....

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE (THOTH @ Jan 16 2004, 07:41 PM)

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So you say you see nothig wrong with women working or such (acting according to her inclinations as your pal Mises states...etc) - but a man who does housework or what have you (perhaps necceasary as an equal partner with a working wife...I mean we can't expect her to do it all no?) - no no to that eh? Again - as I have said all along I can read you loud and clear.


Can you please find evidence where I said I am against women working? I did give my personal opinion saying, I would rather women remain feminine, not lose their femininity, which feminism leads to. Of course if feminism was just about encouraging development, yay, but it is not, it is for unhampered government legislation, affirmitive action, yay to divorce. I realize people have free will and volition. Your point is thus moot. You don't need tons of legislation, affirmitive action, and big government to help you get that. My overall beef with feminism is once again "equality", for I will ask again to you and anileve, what is equal in nature? I know you'll avoid this question.

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You are the biggest coward and charlatan I have ever come accross on the net (probably worse then the worst of Turks I have met) - hiding behind pseudo intellectual blabber - when your true beliefs are plain to see - yet you are to much of a coward to admit. (isn't cowardice the primo sign of effimininity?)


I think you are right. I am a pseudo-intellectual charlatan and all I do is blabber behind the internet, a true key board warrior. Your point? If so, then why do you and your dominatrix anileve so perturbed by my presence and my thoughts? A really superior, intelligent person, such as you or anileve, realizing you are right, would have given up long ago, citing as one of your examples that I am "a hater" , "insensitive" , "illogical", and a "charlatan".

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You are a women hater and a Jew hater. And critiquing Israel or Zionism is not the criteria - as I certainly do both as it fits. You have a deap seared hatred or Jews and of women - a typical INFERIORITY complaex if I've ever seen one...pitiful man....


That is untrue.

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And me effeminate*...thats a laugh...I fart in your general direction!


Woe is me.

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* and for the record (Dan, Sasun etc al) - I see nothing at all wrong with men who wish to be effeminate - or who are for whatever reason...to each their own...do whatever you want woty you life....


Yea, the only way they can "choose" to be effeminate is by brainwashing them with propaganda, and coercion.

Edited by Anonymouse, 16 January 2004 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2004 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (THOTH @ Jan 16 2004, 08:41 PM)
* and for the record (Dan, Sasun etc al) - I see nothing at all wrong with men who wish to be effeminate - or who are for whatever reason...to each their own...do whatever you want woty you life....

What? Is this a cowardly way of calling me effeminate? Get away from me you %^&%^&%^&... mad.gif

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 11:22 PM

hmmm~

can't we just get along

stop !!! it's enugh

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 12:13 AM

Please, please - referring to members with terms such as feminazi, dominatrix and other terms...etc are not contructive in nature. I really don't like the direction this thread is headed - so folks, cut the insults. Everyone. mad.gif

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 03:59 AM

QUOTE (vava @ Jan 17 2004, 12:13 AM)
Please, please - referring to members with terms such as feminazi, dominatrix and other terms...etc are not contructive in nature. I really don't like the direction this thread is headed - so folks, cut the insults. Everyone. mad.gif

Hey, stop singling me out. I started a discussion, and I thought people would be mature.

The emotional egalitarians that cannot maintain a discussion have turned this into a game of epithets. Put the blame where it ought to be.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 03:04 PM

Yes its become obvious to me that belief in God leads to more forgivign and enlightened individuals....not. Yes go on go on...tell us more about how women are inferior, men who contribute in the home and with children are effeminate, women who speak their mind are nazis...etc etc...again we're all ears

Oh and Sasun - if you don't like something I say - then just edit my posts as you have done before (actually you do not at all have my permission to do so! So sorry you'll have to just take it...or leave - for all I care!) And frankly I think you are much to volitole and biased to be a moderator here - I object to your having such a postion. You have made inflametory posts and you have arbitrarily edited the posts of others for no descernable reason.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (THOTH @ Jan 17 2004, 04:04 PM)
Oh and Sasun - if you don't like something I say - then just edit my posts as you have done before (actually you do not at all have my permission to do so! So sorry you'll have to just take it...or leave - for all I care!) And frankly I think you are much to volitole and biased to be a moderator here - I object to your having such a postion. You have made inflametory posts and you have arbitrarily edited the posts of others for no descernable reason.

Thoth, you have made defaming comments addressed to me and I have ignored, so don't take it as I am someone you can bully. You can't call me feminine, that's insulting for me.
I have edited your personally oriented comments in the past because those were insulting to other people. I am sure you object to that -but should I really care? You are the one fashioning as an all accepting liberal yet you don't miss an opportunity to harrass people around who have opposite views. And how about you back up any of your defaming claims such as I am corrupt or other rubbish. So why do you think you can call me effiminate? Now explain this to me. Or you can make a derogatory remark on somebody else's sex life? Do you think you are above the rules to call me or others such? You think you are an old mamber and it might be allowed for you to insult newcomers?

So I have made an inflamatory comment? What a false accusation, now show me one such comment.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 04:05 PM

Sasun, what is so bad about being effeminate or in fact being female? Are you betraying male insecurity? I've been called masculine (whatever gave the person the idea) and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. You guys need to chill out.
As for the rest of the thread, pooh.gif ... Just like the anonyrat.




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