THE HOLY COUPLE SHALL RETAKE THE CHURCH
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Posted 06 April 2002 - 01:09 PM
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Posted 09 April 2002 - 05:52 PM
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Posted 10 April 2002 - 03:04 PM
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Posted 10 April 2002 - 04:34 PM
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Posted 10 April 2002 - 04:45 PM
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Posted 10 April 2002 - 04:58 PM
Originally posted by hagarag:
It is time for the Holy Couple to retake the Church. ...
Kinda reminds me of that Indiana Jones movie where he had to pick the holly grail and drink from it. So many glasses to pick from and only 1 chance
Actually, the probability that the church that person "x" belongs as being the "correct one" is sooo low, that it is not funny anymore Just depresses me every time I think about it. I really don't want to burn in hell for eternity but all statistics and probability theory is telling me is that it is almost for sure that I'll end up there.
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Posted 10 April 2002 - 05:26 PM
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Posted 10 April 2002 - 05:30 PM
#9
Posted 11 April 2002 - 06:14 AM
Originally posted by Sip:
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Just let me know which specific Church because I want to switch to that one before it's too late.
Originally posted by Sip:
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So many churches with so many different beliefs that is driving me nuts! Let's just pick one and stick with it. If you really think about it, out of all these thousands of different churches and religions, only ONE is the true one! It would suck so much for the rest of them to realize they were wrong for soooo long
You could perhaps consider certain religions to be wrong for you however - as I consider Chritianity & Islam & such to be very wrong for me in its overarching absolutism. You may want to put together a list and begin the process of elimination...LOL. And consider this - if you are without sin (or without sin such that the agrieved party or such cannot [easily] absolve - what is the real need for divine redemption? And if you understand science - and why eating certain things or screwing certain close relations etc - is not generally a good idea - why the need for a mandate against such beyond the learning required to know better (and why)? These are questions we need to ask ourselves - IMO (particualrly before "primitive" religion [and you should know of which I speak] holds us back from our ultimate (as yet unknown/undetermined) destiny as a species/planet/etc.
Originally posted by Sip:
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Kinda reminds me of that Indiana Jones movie where he had to pick the holly grail and drink from it. So many glasses to pick from and only 1 chance
Originally posted by Sip:
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Actually, the probability that the church that person "x" belongs as being the "correct one" is sooo low, that it is not funny anymore
Originally posted by Sip:
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Just depresses me every time I think about it. I really don't want to burn in hell for eternity but all statistics and probability theory is telling me is that it is almost for sure that I'll end up there.
#10 Guest_Fadi_*
Posted 11 April 2002 - 06:57 AM
If you really think about it, out of all these thousands of different churches and religions, only ONE is the true one! It would suck so much for the rest of them to realize they were wrong for soooo long
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Posted 11 April 2002 - 07:50 PM
#12
Posted 12 April 2002 - 08:30 PM
Originally posted by highflyer:
What everyone seems to forget is Jesus taught faith NOT religion.The epostiles turned it into religiondogma!
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Posted 12 April 2002 - 08:53 PM
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Posted 14 April 2002 - 02:43 PM
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Posted 14 April 2002 - 05:28 PM
Originally posted by highflyer:
You forget Jesus taught faith not religion. ...
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Posted 15 April 2002 - 05:50 PM
#17 Guest_Fadi_*
Posted 15 April 2002 - 06:02 PM
The differance is you belive by choice because it has a logical meaning to you as the individual.It is not instilled in you from childhood as dogma is .You except or you do not .That simple to me.
Remind you here and agnoisticism is not a religion, believing is something to a force my choice is not a religion, believing to Jesus as the son of god make you a Christian and this believe is a dogma, if on the other hand you believe is some things because you find them logic and rejects others, from the Bible etc... then by definition you are not really a Christian.
Thats complext of course and people will only try to interpret these things the way they want, this is why I believe these books that many religions are based on are your own mirror, you make them speak the way you think by interprating them how you want.
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Posted 18 July 2002 - 05:40 PM
“A man may be born, but in order to be born he must first die , and in order to die he must first awake." Gurdjief
Regards Argishti
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 10:04 AM
February 23, 2007 6:55
Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.
In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.
No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.
Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.
There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.
But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.
Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.
--Tim McGirk/Jerusalem
#20
Posted 25 February 2007 - 10:23 AM
Since they were both named Mariam, Saul of Tarsus and Constantine were able to fool everyone so that they could PAGANIZE our religion.
Time Magazine
February 23, 2007 6:55
Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.
In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.
No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.
Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.
There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.
But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.
Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.
--Tim McGirk/Jerusalem
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