Death Penalty
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Posted 31 August 2003 - 09:35 PM
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Posted 31 August 2003 - 10:56 PM
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Posted 31 August 2003 - 11:33 PM
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Posted 31 August 2003 - 11:40 PM
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Posted 31 August 2003 - 11:47 PM
#6
Posted 31 August 2003 - 11:50 PM
Tell that other Gamavor up there, if you would please, why we have capital punishment in our legal system in the US (especially in Texas). Thank youIaba -daba- du who is calling me?
#7
Posted 01 September 2003 - 12:19 AM
#8
Posted 01 September 2003 - 01:05 AM
Agree 1000000000000%I don't believe that this issue worth to be discussed. Only totally dehumanized Paleozoic minds can insist on keeping up with capital punishment.
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Posted 01 September 2003 - 01:29 AM
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Posted 01 September 2003 - 01:30 AM
#11
Posted 01 September 2003 - 01:32 AM
You guys suck
Ya, you guys should be shot
#12
Posted 01 September 2003 - 09:39 AM
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Posted 01 September 2003 - 10:47 AM
#14
Posted 01 September 2003 - 11:20 AM
And, I believe that it is the greatest crime, the most premedited killing of all. There is nothing more cold blooded than the execution of someone for a soc-alled justice that it is NOT. How can anyone understand, or if there is anything to understand, on the killing of someone that is so premedited, or if there is any worst crime that a state could commit.
Anyone that is for death penality, does not realise, that every killing has its reason, that could be understood... but not in this case, because in this case, there is no understanding, the reason why the person has been killed, no one can understand, because the individual like I said, would be killed for a justice that it is not.
Another note: Punishment exist to punish someone, in order to change him, in order to make him a better person, in order that he does not do the same mistake. For that reason, death penality can not be a punishment, it is rather a vengence... because there is no real reason to kill the person. Think about that, a serial killer will kill because of his illness, because of his sociopathic psycopathy, again there is reasons. A raper that kill his victim, the killing is done for a reason again, he don't want to leave traces that would lead to him. So again, in every cases, we can TRY to understand. But what is there to TRY to understand, in the killing of a person, because he was sentenced to death? It is simply called "justice" and there is no way to understand why it is justice to kill someone.
In those extrem cases, of serial killers, dangerious individuals... still there is no reason to kill him.
Those people are like other species that are not part of or evolved civilisation as humans. If after everything we realise that they can never live in society, we isolate them, and they live with their kinds.
We know that letting lions live with humans,m it is dangerious for humans... because the lions will eat them. Is that a reason to kill lions? Those serial killers, psycopathics... are just like that, they can not live with us humans, like lions can not... we must just isolate them so that they can live with their kinds.
#15
Posted 01 September 2003 - 12:12 PM
You mean kids right, Sip?Notice I am not talking about just criminals.
Sasun, you posted this under "theology", does that mean "death penalty from a theological perspective", or in general? Theologically I have no idea, but generally, I don't know. I think I'm with Hagarag on this one.
#16
Posted 01 September 2003 - 01:55 PM
I'm on the fence about the Death penality - every instinct in my body tells me it's wrong - but I keep running into examples and instances that scream for it.
#17
Posted 01 September 2003 - 02:05 PM
Nairi, the reason I posted in theology is because there was a recent discussion on death penalty in this section and I didn't have time to think where else to put. But what I had in mind, in general, was "yes" or "no", without "if"s and "but"s. I didn't put a "don't know" option on purpose.You mean kids right, Sip?
Sasun, you posted this under "theology", does that mean "death penalty from a theological perspective", or in general? Theologically I have no idea, but generally, I don't know. I think I'm with Hagarag on this one.
Imagine you are on a death row, for whatever reason, and also that you want justice to be held no matter what. So what is the answer, yes or no? This is the kind of the answer I was hoping could be understood. Somebody whose life depends on this qustion doesn't want to hear "i don't know" type of answer.
#18
Posted 01 September 2003 - 02:11 PM
Vava, you are making a valid point. However, no matter what the crime, I think death penalty is wrong. If the child molester is going to go out of jail after some time and do the same thing then it is very unfair and something is wrong with the "correction" he has received. Maybe there simply is no way that we know could change him, but maybe there is or there will be in the future.
#19
Posted 01 September 2003 - 02:14 PM
The main reason I would be against death penalty is the possibility of an innocent person being held responsible for something he or she didn't do. There have been plenty of cases where innocent people were killed on death row because the law failed to protect them (or whatever).
For a long time I wanted to believe that reforming a person is possible, but I'm beginning to wonder if that really is so. This may be true for many young delinquents, but what about older ones?
At the end of the day, I think I would still opt for life-time imprisonment; and I mean LIFE-TIME, not 20 or 30 years. I mean 'til natural death do them part from this earth.
#20
Posted 01 September 2003 - 03:14 PM
I believe they should be forced to work. I talked about that in the past. A kind of state owned compagny, all what they cost, would be pied by them, and the rest of the profit, return to the society.
Edited by Fadix, 01 September 2003 - 03:15 PM.
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