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Posted 19 February 2001 - 11:46 PM

Hayrenatsaghik@

Asum en, mi hay ahgjik, gaghtelis,
Hayastanits mi tsaghik e tarel.
Jrel artsunqov` amen latselis
Yev veradartsi huysov paypayel.
Amen mi tsaghik, mayr hoghum tslats,
Dzgtum e depi yerkinq u arev.
Isk na, ur liner, glux@ tsrats,
Nayel e depi yerkirn ir qare.
Yev ughel e ir glux@ trtum,
Miayn hayreni hoghum qarqarot...

...Ayd tsaghik@ ka amenqi srtum
Yev kochvum e na... hayreni karot:

G. Emin

[ February 20, 2001: Message edited by: Sulamita ]

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Posted 20 February 2001 - 06:58 AM

If you would not tell us that it was written by Emin, the immediate conclusion would've been this is written by Shiraz. Maybe Emin has written it in his young days, while being under the influence of Shiraz?

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Posted 21 February 2001 - 12:44 AM

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Posted 20 February 2001 - 05:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MJ:
If you would not tell us that it was written by Emin, the immediate conclusion would've been this is written by Shiraz. Maybe Emin has written it in his young days, while being under the influence of Shiraz?

Really? I would never think ... I did not find any "Shiraz" in this poem. How weird To be honest I am not even sure how influenced Emin was by Shiraz. Do you?

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Posted 20 February 2001 - 05:54 PM

Here is another poem by Emin that is very dear to me.

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Galiqin

Ognir indz kyanqum ughigh @ntanal,-
Yete qnats em` qnits artnanal,
Te dur@ bats e` izur chbanal,
Yeghatsov yerbeq ch@hangstanal

Yev chasel, te im aratsn aretsi:

Chasel, te amboghj srtov siretsi,
Chasel, te arten parqin tiretsi,
Der yerg@ mtqum` chasel gretsi,
Der qar@ hanqum` chasel kretsi.
Arants himq` chasel, te tun shinetsi

Yev vayelum em tuns baxtavor:

Ch@tval ardar` yeghats meghavor,
Meghavor pahin` hantsanq@ qavel,
Qavelu hamar ch@ghdzal hatutsum
Yev hatutsumov ch@hpartanal...

Ognir indz kyanqum ughigh @ntanal:

G. Emin

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Posted 20 February 2001 - 06:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sulamita:
Really? I would never think ... I did not find any "Shiraz" in this poem. How weird To be honest I am not even sure how influenced Emin was by Shiraz. Do you?

Yes, I do think it resembles Shiraz. Check Shirazes "Hushardzan Mairikis" series.

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Posted 20 February 2001 - 06:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MJ:
Yes, I do think it resembles Shiraz. Check Shirazes "Hushardzan Mairikis" series.

I am somewhat familiar with that series but still ... OK I will take your word for it

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Posted 20 February 2001 - 07:09 PM

Siamantoyi Menaxosutyun@
April 1915 Ayash


1.

-Ov hghatsav ays mitq@ divakan`
Masis@ jermak,
Masis@ anbits'
Ays layn ashxarhum dnel ayn teghum,
Ur dar u darer
Piti aryunen lanjer@ nra
Yev gagatn angam.


Ov mitq hghatsav
Dzhoxq ararel
Yeghyal u cheghyal Draxti teghum,
Ararat leran hovanu nerqo,
Yerkri poxaren
Mez talov mi hin,
Votnakox ja,
Hoghi tegh` chor qar,
Jri tegh` aryun...
Ov mitq hghatsav,
Der mer patmutyan vagh arshaluysin,
Ays ararchagorts',
Hin zhoghovrdi
Glux@ dnel mi harevani
(Birt Parskastani)
Arnot sri tak.
Myusi ajov--
Byuzandio xachov),
Pahanjelov,
Vor na...ts’axi ir hogin,
Yete uzum e... marmin@ prkel:

Yev yete darern
Anzor en yeghel nran azatel,
Yev yete
Galiq darern anzor en azatel nran
Yev hrashqn e lok
Hnarn anhnar,--

Ter,
Tur indz Movses margarei pes
Hanel u tanel tseghn im halats’vats’
Ays Hayastanits,--
Voch-Mahastanits,
Voch-Qarastanits,
Depi apahov, urish mi yezerq
(Ka aydpisi tegh...)--
Tseghn im mshtatev--
Nra serm@ nor
Armatner@ hin,
Vep, kotogh u yerg...

Tur perchabanis
Tlvatutyun@ nra mogakan
Yev sur@ nra`
Aghbyur hanelu handipats' zhayrits,
Yev gavazan@`
&Jghqelu Karmir ts'ov@ mer baxti,
Latsi u aryan,
Tekuz yev Movses margarei pes
Im mah@ gtnem,
Otar hogh mtnem,
Ayd yeraneli apin chhasats',
Baghdzali semin nra pak dran...

Ter,
Ches? lsum du
“Karmir lurer@” jardi u aryan...

2.

Jnjvum e,
Korchum,
Im azniv serm@,
Tesakn u serr@.

Yev inchpes mnar,
Inchpes dimanar.

Yerb menq, tvov` qich,
Sakayn yezaki vorak enq yeghel,
Qanaki ashxarh...

Net u agheghi poxaren` tavigh
Yev gir enq pashtel sri poxaren
Yev zenqi tegh` yerg,
Zorqi tegh` tsnorq--
Zenqi, zorqi u banaki ashxarh...

Menq` mardkutyan u patmutyan donor
Amen mi dari
Ardar payqarin
Aryun enq tvel,
Aryun@ mer qich,
Aryun@ mer tank.
Dra poxaren
Mez govq shraylogh
Tanaqi ashxarh...

Inchqan el dzhvar,
Hajax` anhnar,
Bayts,inch el liner,
Misht mard enq yeghel
U mard mnatsel--
Tmardi ashxarh.

Yeghel dzirq, taghand,
Yerb vsem taghandn
Aghand e kochvel,
Aghandi ashxarh.

Nvirvel barun u gaghaparin--
Negh kaghapari
U... chari ashxarh.

Yerkrpagel u xnkarkel miayn
Nershnchumi u ararman pahin--
Poghi, oguti
U shahi ashxarh...

Jnjvum e,
Korchum im azniv serm@,
Tesakn u serr@,
Im ankrkneli tsegh@ haykakan.

Qsanyerord dar,
Yev du, mardkutyun,
Vor,
Ibrev bari,
Yev hogatar u xghjov es aynqan,
Vor pahpanum es
U prkum mahits
Nuynisk gorsh gayli
Kam shnagayli tohm u tsegherin,
Amen tesaki
Gishatichnerin tseghi mardkayin,
(Odzits minchev... Kayen... )


Mttsru tseghn im
"Karmir grqi" mej...

Bayts voch, spasir.--
Hents ayd grqum er--
Tseghaspanutyan aryunot grqum,--
Vor na hasav ir verjin orhasin
(Der Zorits` Polis
Yev Vanits` Basen... )

"Jermak girq" kazmir,
Hayerin tanjogh
U bnajnjogh
Sev vojirneri masin byuravor.
Yev prkir, prkir
Im tseghi
Verjin ays serm@ mi bur--
Serm@ daravor,
Serm@ paravor...

Prkir, zoravor,
Yrte ches uzum,
Vor mi dar heto
Im tseghi lezun
Yev hay dprutyan gandzern annman,
Anhnar lini verts'anel, avagh,
Shumerneri
U Actekneri hin gandzeri nman...

3.

" Ov mardkayin ardarutyun,
togh yes tqnem qu jakatid "



Tqel em bolor
Charin ts'arayogh
U barun davogh
Grqeri vra,
Bolor yergeri, nerkeri vra
Yev arvestneri,
Yev arhestneri.

Xabogh huyseri,
Nengogh huyzeri
Yev sin moratsum berogh
Tencheri u yerazneri.--

Isk amenits shat,
Amenits avel--
Mets'-mets' xosqeri,
Mets'-mets' zorqeri,
Mets'-mets' achqeri,
(Voronq chen tesnum
Tesats'@ irents...)

Yev ardarutyan,
Yev ardarutyan...

Tqel em, ayo,
Yete mi poqrik,
Hanjaregh mi azg,
Vor@ darerov
Kertel e miayn,
U pashtel miayn
Aznivn u barin--
Ays el qani dar,
Mortvum e, mortvum.
Yev-- amenits shat--
Amenits dazhan,
Ays... ibrev huysi
Yev... luysi darum...

Mortvum elkti,
Mortvum anpatizh,
Mets'--mets' zorqeri,
Mets'--mets' xosqeri,
Yev nayev...
Mets'--mets' achqeri arjev,--
Yev voch-voq, voch-voq
Chi prkum nran,
Chi ognum nran
Kam... dzerq yerkarum...
Yev, teyev duq indz,
Hay banasteghts'is
Dapni eq talis,
Sirum, mets'arum,
Bayts yes chem karogh
Aprel u yergel
Ays hoghagndum`
Ayspisi darum
Yev ays... ashxarhum...

Yev, Yeghernits u jardits aravel,
Ayd e indz tanjum`
Yotn angam avel
U yotnapatik.

O, du mardkayin
Kam... anmardkayin
Keghts' ardarutyun,
Yes -- Siamanton--
Aveli` merats'
Qan aprats', sirats' --
Banasteghts's hay,

Tqel em yes qo keghtot jakatin...

G. Emin

[ February 20, 2001: Message edited by: Sulamita ]

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Posted 20 February 2001 - 07:12 PM

I am glad my word has such a weight , but check the short poem on the subject of the heart of a mother, which has turned into ashes.

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Posted 10 March 2001 - 11:43 PM

Parets Sasunn, u voghj ashxar@ hiatsav,
Parets Sasunn, u voght ashxar@ haskatsav,
Vor yerb nazum en aghjiknern u kranum -
Sasna dzorits jur en berum, art qaghanum
Yerb votqi tak tghaneri hoghn e tndum
Hotaghner@ Sasna sarum gayl en xeghdum
Yerb xrnvum - kartses amprop payti sarum -
Ayd vosoxn e nrants gyuher@ *****rum
Yerb mianum - berd en darnum shinvats qarits -
Ayd vosoxin yet en qshum Andok sarits.
Isk yerb dzerq@ dzerqin zarkum, tsap en talis -
Mahvan vihits depi kyanqi ap en galis...

Parets Sasunn, u voghj ashxar@ hiatsav,
Parets Sasunn, u voght ashxar@ haskatsav,
Vor par che sa, ayl mi yerkri qaj patmutyun,
Ur partutyunn angam uni hpartutyun,
Yev chi haghti vochinch ayn hin joghovrdin,
Vor ays janqov,
U ays kamqov
Parel giti...

Haskatsan u asin i lur voghj ashxari,
-Halal e qez,
Sasun, pari...

Pari,
Du der yeraz unes katarelu,
Vrej unes patmutyunits der hanelu.
Pari,
Gazpan der qo dzerqin e karotum,
Sasna hogh@ var u harki e karotum:

Pari,
Minchev voghj hayerin du ambares,
Yev ays par@
Masis leran lanjin pares...

Gevorg Emin

1957

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Posted 19 March 2001 - 11:41 PM

Gragoghutyan Masin

"Paruyr Sevak@
sranis e ays togh@ vertsrel,
isk sa` nranits ..."
Bayts du inch gites?
inch es haskanum?
qez qo hayhoyats gro~gh@ tani ...

Meghun mi tsaghkits a~ys e vertsnum,
isk ayn` nrani~ts,
bayts na poshi e vertsnu miayn
tsaghkits u tsarits,
isk meghrn steghtsum ... ir eutyuni~ts,
ir nerqnashxarhi~ts ...

Te he~sht e poshuts meghr steghtsel,
du~ el vertsru`
kuzes sranits,
kuezes nrani~ts, -
Ov e argelum yev kam qez neghum? ...

Bayts ... vertsnes el, i~nch piti anes,
yete poet ches,
Yergi meghu ches,
ayl ... ishameghu~:

G. Emin
1968-1969

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Posted 21 March 2001 - 05:24 AM

Hetaqrqira Anetajan es evrchin@ tesnes uma verabervum ???

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Posted 22 March 2001 - 12:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MosJan:
Hetaqrqira Anetajan es evrchin@ tesnes uma verabervum ???

Inch vor mekin piti veraberver Movses jan? Ch@nayats shaterin karogh e verabervel, ches kartsum? Brni banasteghtsutyunner groghner misht el yeghel en, kan u klinen




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