My message to the 1/2 breed
Posted 28 September 2000 - 04:53 PM
BY Diasporan, I mean assimilated Americans.
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Posted 28 September 2000 - 05:01 PM
Steve, let it go, please...
Do you believe now that we need a Code of Conduct?
Posted 28 September 2000 - 05:21 PM
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Posted 28 September 2000 - 05:21 PM
Posted 29 September 2000 - 04:28 AM
Posted 29 September 2000 - 09:23 PM
I'm really getting tired of this.
don't you think it's enough to complain and cry about your discrimination?
Have you read your posts in HyeForum? Most of them are complains and thoughts that are not acceptable for most of the members of this forum. And later or sooner someone gets tired of your posts and we see the results like above posts I deleted.
I have nothing personal against you. I'm able to listen and discuss any opinion about any topic. What I'm trying to do is to keep some basic ethic norms inside this forum.
If these are unsuitable for you, you have chance to leave this forum forever. Otherwise I promise you worse solution.
Posted 30 September 2000 - 08:45 AM
What about Art's side of it? He is as much to blame. You say you deleted both their msgs but I only see you having a go at half breed when half the time other ppl are provoking him.
And another thing. You dont mention anything to art about the RACIST topics he brings up (why do ugly armo girls go out with black guys, etc,) and you KEEP his messages on the board!
I'm not trying to argue with ppl here but i just think it is unfair thats all.
Posted 30 September 2000 - 08:55 AM
I didnt want to upset any1. But i think we should all be peaceful on this forum. It's all about armenian people, (and even people interedted in armenian people!) getting together to find each other and talk, no matter of you are all, half, a quater, a thousanth.
Posted 30 September 2000 - 12:23 PM
Garo, why didn't you delete all of Tigranes attack against me? Also you left Art's attack alone, then deleted my rebuttal to him, where I tell him that I do already speak 4 languages? You claim you have nothing against me, but I wonder. You are very selective about what you delete and not. You are so wrong that my postings always offend other people. 90% of my postings are positive, and I avoid personally attacking, until I am provoked. I suppose my recent posts have been very disagreeable? I have many posts about language issues, music and also recently I show quite a bit of Anti Turkish feelings that have recently welled up in me. So what is the problem?
Posted 30 September 2000 - 01:29 PM
Posted 30 September 2000 - 02:42 PM
Posted 30 September 2000 - 02:54 PM
I'm not going to explain why I did this or that. I blame everyone who breaks the ethic rules of this forum.
Half Breed I'm not sure why your anti turkish feelings have been increased recently. I hope your pro-armenian feelings will increase also and you'll edit some of your posts about our forum and armenians in cyberiran.com's forum.
Posted 30 September 2000 - 05:36 PM
beside I have similar problems, I'm also under attack at the Georgian forum because I'm Iranian Georgian. I believe that we in Iran and you from ex-Soviet union have some recently developed differences in menthality, butit shouldn't be a big deal to have peaceful and creative contacts with each other.
Posted 30 September 2000 - 06:16 PM
With all due respect, I feel intervening, here. Per your earlier advice, I have visited the Georgian Web site and have ready your discussions with the rest in that forum. I have found that you unduly antagonize them, request them to comfort you for the discomforts that you straggle with in your personal life, as if they are obligated to “pamper” you. I have also found that contrary to your earlier statements, they are very normal, intelligent people, and their tone of conversation is quite civil, at least the part which is taking place in English.
Probably one thing that we - Armenians from Armenia have common with the Georgians from Georgia is that we feel secure, we are in peace with our identity, and while we are ready to be sympathetic and understanding to those who do experience crisis one or another way, we don’t feel guilty for their crisis.
I also found that your “mediation” between the two forums is somewhat biased. I don’t mean you are doing this intentionally, but I feel that you have taken some of the statements of Georgians about Armenia, and the opposite way, out of context, while communicating them to the other side. As a result, in both forums there is an impression that each forum has negative feelings towards the other, or has territorial or some other claims to each other. However, I have found that our feelings to each other are friendlier, than what you have presented to the opposite side.
Again, I don’t mean you are pursuing some kind of negative politics here, but rather I think you feel so emotional about your issues, that are not necessarily acting as an impartial mediator with the purpose of facilitation of improved relations between the two nations.
To attest to the absence of my negative feelings towards you, I just want to say I have visited the Georgian forum quite some time ago – the day you referred me to them- but had not expressed any dissatisfaction as of today. I think today you have taken things out of the context, again, and I just want to say that I don’t find your opinions to be really unbiased in the context of the discussions in this tread.
P.S. Since you have pasted excerpts of my earlier statements regarding Armenian-Georgian issues in their forum, I wonder if you would find expedient to paste there this remark of mine in its entirety.
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Posted 30 September 2000 - 08:14 PM
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Posted 30 September 2000 - 08:16 PM
Posted 01 October 2000 - 07:36 AM
Finally, I see the decent MAN behind this exterior that you have been showing. I think we are too few (Armenians) to hate each other. Just realize when I criticize Armenians it is because I expect more from them, which means ultimately I hold them in high esteem. As for the Phillipine/Armenian girl, what a weird coincidence, I have 2nd cousins who are half Philipino/half Armenian but are Armenian from their mom's side. They too speak Armenian and are Armenian Orthodox, though they don't read or write. Yes, I agree somewhat that in mixed marriages Armenian culture tends not to be preserved. Don't think I sometimes don't go through the idea of how much easier it would be if both my parents were Armenian. My pride and coming to terms with being a half Breed is a relatively recent thing(and I guess I am still working on it). Throughout my life I went through one extreme to another, either I was totally Armenian and hating being American, or vice versa. Now I realize God has decided I am going to be both, and for me to enjoy it. Thanks for finally understanding me. I hope we can dialogue rather than fight. Also, I am 32, so technically I could be your dad! So be nice to me
Posted 01 October 2000 - 07:44 AM
I don't know where you are getting the idea that I am Hye Forum bashing on Cyberiran. I did do that at first, because I was angry at some people on this forum, but that was months ago. But see, this is one of the bad traits of our people, grudgeholding, you just won't let it go. I long ago apologized publically on Cyberiran for my misguided comments about Berj, who I thought was the one who came on Cyberiran to antagonize me. I wish you would use the same fervor for chastizing with some of the other Forum users who are just as offensive.
Posted 01 October 2000 - 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Half Breed:
I don't know where you are getting the idea that I am Hye Forum bashing on Cyberiran. I did do that at first, because I was angry at some people on this forum, but that was months ago
I got that idea from my first and last visit to CynerIran's forum at that time.
Posted 02 October 2000 - 12:57 AM
Sorry guys , for me all these is ' b u l l '
If you feel Armenian, if you love Armenia, if you love Armenians and 0% of you is biological Armenian , then for me you are 100% Armenian.
Believe me , there are 100% bioligical rmenians , for whom I am not proud to say that they are my brothers.
I know a guy , whose wife was Armenian, but the guy , wow , he is more Armenian than most of us....
Take it easy and don't pay attention to outside voices or 'noises' of stupidity.
However , I would beg you to stop all these discussions of percentage and the parafenaliae. It does not help, it only aggravates the less gifted ones....
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