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[Doc Armenia]

hey folks....

I would like to make couple of comments regarding the armenian female perspective on the issue of virginity.

I agree that the doulbe standard regarding the issue of virginity does exist in Armenia. Do I agree with that, no. But...

Let's look at it from a different point of view. Sex is the culmination of ones love for the other, at least that's the way it was designed by God and according to HIS design nobody should engage to into sexual intercourse unless married. It is written all over the Bible. Did you guys stop and think about as to why God wanted us to be celibate until we are married?

I am going to try to make my point by answering a series of questions.

Is it more common for armenian men to cheat on their wives than for the armenian wife to cheat on her husband? I am sure most of you will agree with me that armenian man definitely (statistically speaking) cheat on their wives. Again not everybody, but definitely that incidence is more prevalent.

The question is why? I will answer this one a little later.

Is it uncommon for the armenian man to enter a marriage as a virgin?

I think 90% of all armenian guys who are married had multiple partners before the marriage.

Now let's put 2 and 2 together.

Guys who had multiple (and by that I mean more than 1) sexual partners (this includes a sexual partner by marriage) have a tendency to cheat on their wives, because they are always on the look out for some new experience. It is not the women's fault at all. The guy wants something new, some new experience.

Now, having said that, do women feel the same way? I am sure, and it has been shown that women who had premarital sex or multiple sexual partners are more prone to cheat on their husbands than women who were virgins ( and by that I mean total virgins (no anal sex, no oral sex).

The question is why?

Because, those women want a new experience as well.
I am sure God new the very anatomy of humans and that's why HIS WORD for us was/is not to engage in premarital sex, because that's one sure way to ruin your family later on in your life.
Apart from that, it is hard to live with the reality that you are not the first ones for each other. It hurts and it surely takes away from the relationship.

As to why women have hymens?
The Biblical explanation is that everything (old testament) had to be sealed with blood and marriage being a contract, if you will, between man and a woman, which is not to be broken, it had to be sealed with blood, thus hymen.

[sarsher101]

To all the armenian guys who I find wonderful in so many truly "armenian" ways, please allow your women that choice.

To all the amazing armenian women, let's lobby for that choice. Maybe not now, maybe not in 10 years, but someday, let's hope we win the right to make that choice.

I consider this the first step in that crusade.

I look forward to any replies.

liberated, but very armenian <img border="0" src="smilies/redface.gif" />)

g.s.

your deffinetly right about the choice. it is the woman's choice. however, it is also the mans choice to judge the woman. see its a 2 sided issue not all armenian guys look for virgin woman. and not all armenian girls are not virgin. and when i say this next thing i mean it for both men and women. if your not virgin and are looking for a virgin as alife partner, forget it your a hipocret. you might or might not get it but the chances of your lady or your man respecting you are odd. and most of these cases end up failure and a perfect example is the rate of divorces in the USA. why is it that Armenian families have better chances of lasting longer than the not armenian ones. because we are committed and we like to stablize our lives after marriage. thus, we look for someone we are cofortable with in every aspect. I can't live with a women that i know she had slept with every person she had dated or some sort of that. I can live with the fact that she was in on serious relation and on the verge of marriage and did not happen. yet she did sleep with the guy. that is almost as good as marriage. but if you expect something from your partner, then commit to that thing yourself first. you want a virgin partner, be a virgin before you think that. if not then you can enjoy the pleasures with every person you date. after all thats the modern life now adays unfortunately. but to make a choice i want to clerify to you. that just as you make a choice to be not virgin, people have a choice to stereotype you in eithe ra good or a bad way. and you can't stop that from happening. kinda like everything in life. you don't have a choice to be a girl and love guys, but if you love girls then people will call you what they call and youcant change that. thats the term given for such a condition.

[vava]

Wow, where did you guys dig up this thread?? It hasn't been touched in 5 years!!

Welcome Doc Armenia and Sarsher101. Try looking around some of the more recent posts as well. Hope you enjoy your stay.

[DominO]

Wow, where did you guys dig up this thread?? It hasn't been touched in 5 years!!

Welcome Doc Armenia and Sarsher101. Try looking around some of the more recent posts as well. Hope you enjoy your stay.

That thread makes me feel like I'm a new member. The last post(before it resurfaced recently) was made something like 6 months before I first registered.

Edited by QueBeceR, 23 November 2005 - 03:08 PM.

[Takoush]

Yes. I believe if a man for instance, had quite many sex partners before entering a marriage and finds it a must to marry a virgin; then he is a hyppocrit and an unjust and demanding person. Why make it a requirement when he had indeed had plenty of sex partners himself. However, a woman obviously goes through cycles which requires it of her to be less sexually active. In the case of a man, since he does not have monthly cycles such as a woman, then his body would be needing and requiring more so the sexual activity than a woman. Therefore, it is more understanding for a man to be more sexually active before entering a marriage.

However, if a woman has also been very active sexually before entering a marriage, then she would be called a "nymphomaniac"; because a woman's sexual needs is not usually that demanding such as a man's. Except at certain stages in her life. Therefore, it is very understanding that a man requires it of her not to have a reputation such as a 'nymphomaniac', and to have been a woman with plenty of sexual partners in her past. Then he wouldn't want her as a spouse because of her past and her excessive sexual relationships and with it a negative reputation.

[sarsher101]

Anahit I guess in someway you are kinda saying that what is the reality that girls should not have sex is something you agree with if you follow logical reasoning. yet it seemed like you were against it in the beginning.so are you changin your view or did i misunderstand you?

[Takoush]

Anahit I guess in someway you are kinda saying that what is the reality that girls should not have sex is something you agree with if you follow logical reasoning. yet it seemed like you were against it in the beginning.so are you changin your view or did i misunderstand you?

Yes, I am basically saying that young girls can and would be able to control themselves until they get married; however nowadays If a girl has a relationship with a guy for a number of years; she is bound to have relations; sex with the guy out of love. Then it's OK. But I don't think a "good" girl should have sexual partners before she's married. Only in the case when she has a long term and a loving relationship with her beloved guy. I would recommend her to get married with him.

Edited by Anahid Takouhi, 24 November 2005 - 12:03 AM.