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#61 Yervant1

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:52 PM

Israel talks about Armenian Genocide, after every rift they have with Turkey. This time it's not any different!

Public Radio of Armenia

Dec 14 2017
 
 
Israeli Party to submit bill recognizing the Armenian Genocide
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Leader of the Israeli Yesh Atid party  calls for recognition of Armenian genocide, The Times of Israel reports.

Lapid said his party would lodge a bill in the Knesset recognizing the Armenian genocide — a step Israel has traditionally refrained from taking over fears of angering Turkey, with which Israel re-established ties in 2016.

The Yesh Atid leader also called for “burying the bad idea” to build a gas pipeline to Turkey and for Israel to “upgrade its support for the creation of an independent Kurdish state” and to “assist the Kurds together with the United States and with countries in the region.”

His comments came after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Sunday called Israel a “terrorist state” that “kills children.”

“Erdogan crossed the line,” said Lapid.”

“Someone who denies the murder of hundreds of thousands of children in the Armenian genocide won’t lecture us. Someone who cooperated with Iran and Hezbollah in Syria, in a war which has left half a million dead, won’t lecture us,” added Lapid.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:29 PM

Nothing new! Same rhetoric, same denial. Didn't expect anything different. Please Israeli politicians stop using the Armenian Genocide as a tool as we don't use Holocaust for political purposes. 

 News.am, Armenia

Dec 18 2017
 
 
Israeli Defense Minister once again questions fact of Armenian Genocide
19:23, 18.12.2017
 

Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman has once again questioned the fact of the Armenian Genocide.

In an interview to RTV TV channel, he noted that the proposal to recognize the Armenian Genocide as Turkey's peak is not acceptable: "I do not think that it is acceptable to rake this very issue, which is in many respects purely historical, controversial and theoretical. I do not think that this has a concrete impact on Israel's current position on Turkey."

At the clarifying question whether the relationship Azerbaijan is an obstacle to this, Liberman said: "First of all." 

According to him, relations with Azerbaijan is priority for Israel."

The day before the Israeli defense minister Avigdor Liberman urged to review the economic relations of the Jewish state with Turkey, following the statements of the country's President Tayyip Erdogan. 

Earlier Erdogan announced the intention of the republic to open an embassy in East Jerusalem in response to Washington's decision to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

Israel and Turkey normalized the relations with each other only in 2016 after the crisis lasting six years. 

https://news.am/eng/news/427097.html

 

 



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Posted 19 December 2017 - 04:16 PM

The stick and carrot diplomacy at work again!

Panorama, Armenia

Dec 19 2017
 
 
Israel should have recognized Armenian Genocide long ago, opposition leader says

The Israeli opposition party Yesh Atid plans to submit a bill proposing the official recognition of the Armenian Genocide to the Israeli parliament – Knesset. The party’s leader, Yair Lapid, said Israeli should have recognized that historical fact long ago, Ermenihaber reported.

According to the source, Yair Lapid said the draft law is already ready with signature gathering process currently underway in the Israeli parliament to support the legislative initiative.

“We believe that soon we will register a breakthrough in this matter. Many Israeli leaders have personally announced their recognition of the Armenian Genocide, which is a historical fact. The Knesset Education Committee recently announced it also recognizes the Genocide. Former Israeli governments have avoided officially recognizing the Armenian Genocide due to the incorrect strategic calculations,” he said. “We should have recognized the Armenian Genocide long ago, since above all it is a morally right thing to do. With the aggressive behavior of President Erdogan, now there are no more forgiveness for anyone, who avoids doing the right thing.”

The Israeli political figure highlighted Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is trying to create anti-Israeli moods and incite new troubles in the region. According to Lapid, Israeli must show that it is not afraid of Erdogan’s rhetoric and threats.

“We will do what is right for us and that also entails acknowledging the historical fact of the Armenian Genocide, increasing our support for the rightful Kurdish independence struggle and cancelling the misguiding idea of a gas pipeline to Turkey,” he added.

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 04:31 PM

ARMINFO News Agency, Armenia
December 18, 2017 Monday


Forecast: Israel`s recognition of the Armenian Genocide is real, but
it will not happen now

Yerevan December 18

Angela Stepanyan. Israel's recognition of the historical fact - the
Armenian Genocide is real, but it will not happen now - the process is
in progress and it takes a certain amount of time. A member of the
Israeli Knesset of the 15th convocation, President of ICES -
International Expert Center of Electoral Systems Alexander Tsinker,
expressed such an opinion to ArmInfo.

"Speaking of the process, I mean lobbying for the recognition of the
Armenian Genocide by various public trends in our country. Our
Israel-Armenia public forum also addresses this issue, much in this
direction is taken by the head of the Israel-Armenia
interparliamentary friendship group, our Vice-Speaker Tali Ploskov The
number of parliamentarians supporting the recognition of the Armenian
Genocide is consistently growing in all factions of the Knesset.The
recognition of the need to recognize the Armenian Genocide by the
majority of Israeli citizens opinion polls," the political scientist
said.

On the whole, having positively commented on the intention of Yashi
Lapid, the leader of the party, he would submit to the Knesset a bill
on the recognition of the Armenian Genocide, Tsinker noted that the
chances of influencing the recognition of the Genocide were much
greater when he was Minister of Finance and his party in the ruling
coalition.

As a more realistic way to achieve the recognition of the Armenian
Genocide by Armenians, Tsinker considers the transfer of relevant
materials already in place and approved by the parliamentary
commission on history, culture and education for consideration and
voting in the Knesset. The political scientist believes that in the
case of a vote "for" the recognition of the Genocide by parties
periodically asserting the need for recognition of the Genocide, there
really will be a real chance of solving this issue.

On April 24, 2015, the Armenians marked a mournful date - the 100th
anniversary of the Armenian Genocide in Western Armenia, whose victims
were 1.5 million Armenians. Turkey stubbornly refuses to recognize the
fact of the Armenian Genocide recognized by the majority of US states,
more than two dozen countries, the Vatican, the European Parliament,
the World Council of Churches, and other authoritative international
organizations. Holocaust survivors Israel did not recognize the
Armenian Genocide either. - vg-



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 10:57 AM

News.am, Armenia
Dec 26 2017
 
 
Israeli opposition calls to stop “humiliating itself” and to recognize Armenian Genocide
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Israeli opposition leader one again urged the government to recognize the Armenian Genocide and support the Kurds.

Yesh Atid head Yair Lapid kept some of his harshest criticism for Netanyahu’s handling of Turkey, saying that the agreement with that country reached in 2016 to put an end to the Mavi Marmara affair was a mistake, The Jerusalem Post   reported.

At a press briefing with diplomatic correspondents, Lapid said that Israel should stop “humiliating itself” before the Turks and has to recognize the Armenian Genocide.  Lapid added that “putting gas in Erdogan's hands” is a crazy move.

https://news.am/eng/news/428631.html



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:26 AM

Times of Israel
Jan 2 2018
 
 
Jewish students umbrella group resolves to boycott far-right Austria party Resolutions passed by organization also reject attempts to deny the Armenian genocide, call for religious pluralism in Israel
By JTA Today, 9:33 pm
 

International Jewish student leaders will launch an international anti-Semitism awareness campaign on campuses worldwide and vowed to reject any attempts to deny the Armenian genocide.

The World Union of Jewish Students at its 44th World Congress, a five-day assembly that ended Monday, also aimed to seek partnership with organizations fighting for religious pluralism in Israel and committed not to work with members or affiliates of Austria’s populist Freedom Party, or FPOe, which is part of the new government coalition. The group said it would boycott FPOe officials.

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Some 157 Jewish college students from 36 countries served as delegates to the congress. The students came from Eastern, Central and Western Europe, North and South America, Australasia, South Africa, India, Turkey and Israel.

The group declared March Anti-Semitism Awareness Month and laid the groundwork to coordinate its campaign in partnership with a number of government ministries and campus organizations.

At its general assembly, which was part of the congress, the WUJS elected a new president: Avigayil Benstein, 24, is completing her undergraduate degree in international relations and Middle East studies at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. She was born and raised in Israel, and served as a foreign press liaison in the European desk of the Israel Defense Forces’ spokesperson’s office.

Benstein, the daughter of WUJS alumni from the United States and the United Kingdom, succeeds Yosef Tarshish, 26.

The American Union of Jewish Students voted in the election for the first time after being promoted to partial member from observer status.

The resolutions on FPOe and the Armenian genocide were among a number of binding policy motions passed at the General Assembly. The one on Austria comes out against the normalization of right-wing extremism in light of the formation of the new government in Austria that includes FPOe.

WUJS resolved to remember the Armenian genocide, and to condemn and reject any attempt to deny, distort or ignore its historical reality. Another resolution called to raise consciousness and encourage public discourse on matters of Jewish pluralism in the State of Israel, and to seek partnership with organizations fighting for religious pluralism in Israel.

WUJS is the international umbrella organization supporting independent Jewish student associations all over the world. It was established in 1924 by Hersch Lauterpacht, and previous WUJS leaders include Albert Einstein, Chaim Bialik, Sigmund Freud and Chaim Weizmann, as well as David Ben-Gurion, and A.B. Yehoshua.

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:13 AM

Assyrian International News Agency
Jan 3 2018
 
 
World Union of Jewish Students Recognize the Assyrian, Greek, Armenian Genocide
 
Posted 2018-01-03 16:51 GMT

The World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) has formally recognised the Armenian Genocide at its 44th World Congress in Israel, after a Jewish-Australian advocate, Ariel Zohar was among the key speakers for the motion, reported the Armenian National Committee of Australia (ANC-AU).

Zohar, who was key behind the recent Victorian Young Labor motion recognising the Armenian Genocide, was joined in his advocacy of this historic motion by Aaron Meyer and Yos Tarshish.

ANC-AU Executive Director Haig Kayserian thanked the WUJS on this important statement for human rights.

"We thank Ariel Zohar and his colleagues at the World Union of Jewish Students Congress for passing a motion that does not only recognise the genocide committed against the Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians of the Ottoman Empire, it also 'condemns' and 'rejects' any 'attempt to deny, distort, or ignore the historical reality of this genocide'," Kayserian said.

"This sends a strong message to the governments of Israel, and others like Australia, that human rights are not there to be bargained for diplomatic gain, no matter the circumstance," he added.

The motion reads as follows:

This Congress notes...

  1. That between 1915 and 1923 millions of Armenians, Pontian Greeks and Assyrians were murdered at the hands of the Ottoman Caliphate.
  2. The tragic crime was undisputedly carried out with the genocidal intention of eliminating these Christian communities. This was a premeditated and systematic execution of an estimated 2-3 million civilians; not a legitimate act of war.
This Congress believes...
  1. That it is incumbent upon us as a Jewish organisation to fight all forms of racism.
This Congress resolves...
  1. To condemn and reject any attempt to deny, distort, or ignore the historical reality of this genocide.
  2. To recognise the importance of remembering and learning from this genocide, and to join the Armenian, Pontian Greek and Assyrian communities in honouring the innocent people who fell victim to this crime.
On his Facebook page, Zohar wrote: "Jewish students have a long proud history of perusing on the forefronts of social justice. Today is another important milestone in our activism history."

 

"WUJS will now be formally calling on governments of Israel, Australia and others to join a growing list of 28 countries around the world to formally recognise the sufferings and injustice of the Armenians and other minorities at the hand of the then Ottoman Empire (modern day Turkey)."

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:43 AM

Public Radio of Armenia
Jan 8 2018
 
 
Israeli Foreign Ministry asked to disclose Armenian Genocide-related documentation
 
 

Advocate Eitay Mack and genocide scholar Professor Yair Auron have asked the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs to expose to the public any documentation of agreements, understandings, commitments vis-a-vis Azerbaijan and Turkey as to the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide.

In a request sent to Mr. Aryeh Zini, the official in charge of implementing the Freedom of Information Law at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the two also ask to uncover any correspondence with Turkish or Azeri representatives on the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide, any documentation of meetings or communications between representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with Turkish or Azeri representatives on the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide, decisions and position papers of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs as to the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide, in view of Turkey and Azerbaijan’s objection.

Eitay Mack and Yair Auron note that “it seems that the official Israeli denial of the Armenian genocide is tied to its diplomatic and military relations with Turkey, and in recent years to the relations with Azerbaijan.”

“So far the contracts between Azeri and Israeli companies with respect to purchasing of defense equipment is close to 5 billion dollars. More precisely – $4,850,000,000. The biggest part of these contracts have already been executed and still we are continuing to work on that and we are very satisfied with the level of this cooperation,” they add.

The request reminds that “on 2011, at the time of a hearing at the Knesset’s Education Committee, on the Armenian genocide, former Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Danny Ayalon, former Chairman of the Knesset Education Committee, MK Alex Miller, as well as additional MK’s from ‘Israel Beitenu’ party clarified unequivocally to the Azeri media that the State of Israel would not recognize the Armenian genocide so as not to harm relations with Azerbaijan.”

In an interview on 24.5.2011, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said: “There is not a chance that the Knesset will recognize the Armenian genocide…We cannot afford to tarnish our relations with Azerbaijan, our key strategic ally in the Islamic world, over controversial historical issues concerning century-long events.”

And MK Alex Miller said: “We are not going to determine whether or not genocide occurred. It would be naive to presume that the commission on education, culture and sports would be an entity within which we will not only address issues dating back almost a hundred years but also our strategic relations with Israel’s key ally in the Islamic world.”

Eitay Mack and Yair Auron, thus, request that the Ministry disclose the following information:

  1. Any documentation of agreements, understandings, commitments vis-a-vis Azerbaijan and  Turkey as to the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide.
  2. Any correspondence with Turkish or Azeri representatives on the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide.
  3. Any documentation of meetings or communications between representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with Turkish or Azeri representatives on the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide.
  4. Decisions and position papers of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs as to the question of recognizing the Armenian genocide, in view of Turkey and Azerbaijan’s objection.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 08:49 AM

AS expected!!!!!!! Only holocaust matters. :(

The Armenian Weekly
Feb 14 2018
 
 
Israeli Knesset Rejects Bill Recognizing the Armenian Genocide
 
By Weekly Staff on February 14, 2018
 
JERUSALEM (A.W.)—The Israeli Knesset (Parliament) rejected a bill on Wednesday, which would have recognized the Armenian Genocide. Sponsored by Yesh Atid party chairman Yair Lapid, the bill was rejected in a preliminary vote.
 
An Israeli flag on the Lebanese border (Photo: Gaetano Virgallito)
 
“There is no reason that the Knesset, which represents a nation that went through the Holocaust, shouldn’t recognize the Armenian Genocide and have a remembrance day for it,” Lapid was quoted by the Jerusalem Post as saying.
 
“The Israeli leadership diminishes itself by so transparently treating genocide remembrance as a commodity to be bartered with [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan,” said Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) Executive Director Aram Hamparian, regarding the vote.
 
Armenian Foreign Affairs Minister Edward Nalbandian  met with Kneset Speaker Yuli Edelstein last November, during Nalbandian’s official visit to Israel. At the meeting, the two exchanged views on a number of urgent regional issues, including the importance of the Israeli Parliament’s recognition of the Armenian Genocide.
 
During the talks, Edelstein had noted that his point of view about the importance of recognition is “well-known” and that he has expressed it many times publically. In July 2015, during a committee meeting, Edelstein had said the Knesset “must do the moral thing” and recognize the Armenian Genocide.
 
“I visited one of the Armenian memorial sites and it is very hard to ignore what I saw there,” Edelstein had recounted at the time, according to the Jerusalem Post. “I expect that I and the Knesset behave appropriately so that we can make decisions according to the moral standards of a democratic state.”
 

 



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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:13 PM

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:49 AM

One word hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!

The Independent, UK

Feb 15 2018
 
 
In the cases of two separate holocausts, Israel and Poland find it difficult to acknowledge the facts of history
 
While Poland has decided to outlaw any claims that their countrymen participated in the extermination of the Jews, Israel continues to ignore the Armenian genocide
 
by Robert Fisk
 
The Israelis have been mighty pissed off with the Polish government these past few days. I don’t blame them. In fact – and I’m not referring to the racist, extremist military occupation government of Benjamin Netanyahu – the Israeli people and Jews around the world are quite right to be enraged at Poland’s latest Holocaust denialism.
 
The Polish decision to criminalise any accusation of Polish complicity in the Holocaust, passing a law which effectively prevents any Pole from acknowledging that Poles themselves assisted in the genocide of six million European Jews, is iniquitous. Its purpose is not to elicit the truth, but to bury it. It certainly constitutes part of the denialism of the Jewish Holocaust.
 
But – to give a taster to what this column is also about – I will say one word: Armenia. And reveal henceforth one of the most remarkable coincidences in recent publishing history. It involves century-old telegrams – hitherto regarded as forgeries, but in fact real – ordering the mass extermination of more than one million Christians, a truly courageous Turkish historian, and a total denial of the Armenian Holocaust by the one nation which should acknowledge its existence. But first, Poland.
 
As in most German-occupied European nations, morality – or immorality – was coloured grey. Think Vichy, and the French “maquis”. Think Italian fascism, and the Italian communist resistance.
 
In 2015, Ukraine passed laws that forced its citizens to honour nationalists who briefly collaborated with the Nazis and participated in the mass killing of Jews. No uproar from the West, of course, since we currently support brave little Ukraine against the Russian beast that has gobbled up Crimean Sevastopol.
 
But now to the incredible timing of the Polish legislation. For even as this disreputable law was actually passing through the parliament in Warsaw a few days ago, that most brave of Turkish historians, Taner Akcam, was publishing a short but revelatory book (Killing Orders, published by Palgrave Macmillan) which proves, finally and conclusively, that the extermination orders of Talat Pasha, a leader of the Young Turks and one of the Three Pashas who ruled the Ottoman Empire in the First World War, to destroy the entire Armenian Christian population in 1915 were real.
 
Not forgeries as Turkey’s apologists and denial historians would have the world believe. Not concocted by Armenian counterfeiters, or fiction created by a non-existent Ottoman official, as these wretched people would have us think. But as copper-bottomed and terrible as the Nazi documents which prove Germany’s responsibility for the Jewish Holocaust – and the evidence that proves Poles sometimes joined in the slaughter.
 
The facts of the Armenian Holocaust – for “Shoah” (holocaust) is the very word that many honourable Israelis use for the Armenian genocide – are well known but need, however briefly, to be repeated. In 1915 and in the immediate years that followed, the Ottoman Turks deliberately set out to liquidate a million and a half of their Armenian Christian citizens, sending them into the desert on death marches, butchering the men, raping the women, spitting the children on bayonets or starving them to death with their mothers and other family members in what is now northern Syria.
 
The Kurds, sorry to say, assisted in this barbarity. Taner Akcam has written extensively and with immense authority on this appalling period of Turkish history – which the Turkish government, to this day, shamefully denies – and has as a result been abused by hundreds of right-wing Turkish extremists who have even tried to place him on an American “terrorist” list (he teaches at Clark University in the US).
 
Akcam’s new book contains a dark and haunting – almost frightening – geography, for most of the 1915 massacres he writes about took place in or near towns which carry their own fearful message of slaughter and horror to us today: Mosul, Raqqa, Deir ez-Zour and, yes, Aleppo.
 
 
It was in the Baron Hotel in Aleppo – still standing today, the descendants of the then owner Mazlouiyan still (just) occupying its lobby – that a set of original telegrams from Talat Pasha, along with other liquidation messages memorised by an Ottoman official, Naim Bey, were handed over to an Armenian Holocaust survivor called Aram Andonian. He paid cash for the documents. We don’t know how much.
 
Until now, Turkish historians and their supporters in the West have regarded these vital papers as false. They claimed that Naim Bey did not exist, that Andonian was a forger, that the cypher in which Talat’s telegrams were written did not match the Ottoman cypher system of the time. They ignored the mass of evidence presented to the existing but quickly suppressed post-war trials in Istanbul, archives which subsequently went missing. And they held up telegrams – real enough but deliberately misleading – that “proved” Talat had the best interests of the Armenians at heart when he deported them.
 
Akcam’s unravelling of the truth is both a detective story and a volume of sudden, inconceivable horror. He proves the cypher numbers were real, that Naim Bey did indeed exist; an Ottoman document on a corruption investigation – in which Turkish officials accepted bribes from Armenians in return for their lives – identifies him as “Naim Effendi, the son of Huseyin Nuri, 26 years of age, from Silifke, former dispatch official for Meskene, currently the official in charge of Municipal Grain Storage Depots”. And more powerfully than any previous historian, Akcam proves – along with papers from the archive of a dead Armenian priest – that the Ottoman authorities were sending two sets of telegrams about the Armenians. One set expressed the government’s insistence that food and tents should be provided for Armenian deportees and that their confiscated property should be recompensed. The other set insisted upon their secret liquidation, preferably away from the cameras of prying US diplomats (America was neutral until 1917) and German officers allied to the Turkish army.
 
READ MORE
 
Polish Senate approves new Holocaust speech restrictions
Israel accuses Poland of trying to deny the Holocaust
Poland moves to make phrase ‘Polish death camps’ a criminal offence
 
The Nazis told their Jewish victims that they were going to be “resettled” in the east rather than gassed. They also tried to cover the traces of the gas chambers of Treblinka before the Red Army arrived. But the “double” instructions sent by Talat Pasha and his 1915 genociders demonstrate that the pretence of humanitarian resettlement was conceived even before the organised genocide began. Some of the young German officers who witnessed the killings of 1915 turned up 26 years later in the Soviet Union, overseeing the slaughter of Jews.
 
And here is one very short account (courtesy of the Turkish historian Akcam) of an Armenian witness to his people’s destruction, which could – if the identities and locations were changed to the Ukraine or Belarus – have been written during the Second World War: “In order to eliminate the last remaining Armenian deportees...between Aleppo and Deyr-i Zor [sic] who had managed to survive...Hakki Bey...evicted all the deportees along the Euphrates, starting from Aleppo... Close to 300 young men and boys...surviving in the camp Hamam were sent to the South in a special convoy... Solid reports about them arrived that they had been killed in Rakka [sic]... Elsewhere, we learned in no uncertain terms that in the area around Samiye, 300 children were thrown into a cave opening, gas was poured in and they were burned alive.”
 
So here’s the real hypocrisy of this story. The Israeli government, so outraged by Poland’s Jewish Holocaust denialism, refuses to recognise the Armenian Holocaust. Shimon Peres himself said that “we reject attempts to create a similarity between the [Jewish] Holocaust and the Armenian allegations. Nothing similar to the Holocaust occurred. What the Armenians went through is a tragedy, but not genocide.”
 
The Americans, I should add – Trump included, of course – have been equally pathetic in their failure to acknowledge the Armenian truth. But oddly, not Poland.
 
For 13 years ago, the Polish parliament passed a bill which specifically referred to the “Armenian genocide”. The speaker of the Polish parliament, Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, said at the time that the Armenian genocide did indeed take place, that responsibility fell on the Turks, and that Turkish documents – though not yet those which Akcam has just revealed – “confirm” this.
 
So there you have it. Poland punishes anyone who speaks of Polish participation in the Jewish Holocaust, but accepts the Armenian Holocaust. Israel insists that all must acknowledge the Jewish Holocaust – and Poland’s peripheral guilt – but will not acknowledge the Armenian Holocaust.
 
Mercifully, Israeli scholars like Israel Charny do so. And mercifully, Turks like Taner Akcam agree. But how many times must the dead die all over again for nations to accept the facts of history?
 

 


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Posted 26 February 2018 - 11:07 AM

For Israel Armenian Genocide, is a "political connection" but Holocaust it's the right thing to do. Hypocrites!

Jerusalem Post

Feb 25 2018
 
 
 
 
The International Raoul Wallenberg Foundation expressed “deep disappointment” in the Knesset’s rejection of a bill to recognize the Armenian Genocide earlier this month.

Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely said that while Israel had sent a parliamentary delegation to the 100th anniversary event in Yerevan, it will not take an official stance on the matter, “in light of its complexity and diplomatic repercussions, and because it has a clear political connection.”
 


The Raoul Wallenberg Foundation sent a letter on Thursday to Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein, copying in Hotovely and Yesh Atid leader MK Yair Lapid who sponsored the bill.

Edelstein called on the government in 2015 to change its stance, and in 2016 the Knesset Education Committee recognized the genocide.

However, any motion for official state recognition of the genocide has failed to go through.

“Regrettably, this voting down has been repeating itself, time and again, for the last few years, as a constant ritual,” read the letter, signed by foundation chairman Eduardo Eurnekian and founder Baruch Tenembaum.

“With all due respect, we are not able to understand, let alone justify this stance,” they said. “Israel is the national home of the Jewish people, who suffered an indescribable plight during the Shoah [Holocaust]. Twenty-five-years earlier, the Armenian people endured another unspeakable tragedy, which, in light of the world’s silence, many believe has encouraged the Nazis to perpetrate their atrocities against the Jews during World War II.”

The foundation believes that of all the nations in the world, the Jewish state should have “the intellectual honesty and the spiritual generosity to recognizing the horrific tragedy of the Armenian people. Alas, the Israeli government and its Knesset have lost this opportunity time and again. There is no political reality that could provide a reasonable excuse for that.”

Eurnekian and Tenembaum observed a “deep connection” between Jews and Armenians. The NGO, which works to recognize Righteous among the Nations, notes that 24 Armenians have officially received that title so far, which is a large number in relation to the size of the population.

“Mr. Edelstein, we know your personal support for the recognition of the Armenian Genocide, as is the case of your predecessor, President Reuven Rivlin,” the letter concluded. “We feel that the Knesset would be praised around the world for taking a bold ethical stance, regardless of any short-term political considerations. We regret that this has not happened yet.”

Lahav Harkov contributed to this report.
 

 

 


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:10 AM

Lowell Sun (Massachusetts)
March 1, 2018 Thursday
 
 
Israel can't have it both ways
 
LETTER TO THE EDITOR
 
 
In reading The Sun's article on the Polish prime minister being blasted on his comment by Israel, that Poland collaborated with Nazi Germany in that Holocaust of the Jewish people during WW II, I believe the Polish government was forced bythe Nazi Germans and had no choice. To prevent genocide and Holocaust in the future, why has Israel put aside the recognition of the first Holocaust of the Armenian nation in 1915 by the Young Turk regime during WWI? Each year Israel brings forth the Armenian Genocide issue in the Knesset, but gets turned away with no acceptable answers.
 
While Israel condemns the Polish PM's remarks as anti-semitic, then the Armenian nation should condemn Israel for being anti-Armenian and anti-Christian until she comes forward to recognize the well-documented tragedy of the Armenian Genocide.
 
Stephen T. Dulgarian
 
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Posted 10 March 2018 - 09:28 AM

It would be nice if they sent copies of those testimonies to the Israeli government, maybe it will refresh their memories and help them to stop the denial!

MyNewsLA.com, CA

March 9 2018
 
 
USC Shoah Foundation adds largest collection of Armenian genocide testimonies to archive
Posted by Debbie L. Sklar on  March 9, 2018
     
 

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The USC Shoah Foundation Friday will formally announce the receipt of one of the largest collections of testimonies from survivors of the Armenian Genocide.

The testimonies were recorded over several decades beginning in the 1970s by Richard Hovannisian, a leading scholar on the genocide and the son of a genocide survivor. The collection includes more than 1,000 interviews, making it the largest non-Holocaust-related collection added to the Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive. It is also the archive’s only audio-only collection.

Foundation officials will officially announce the acquisition during an afternoon ceremony at USC. Ten of the testimonials — seven in English and three in Armenian — will be made available to the public Friday, with others added over time as they are digitized and indexed.

The collection also includes documents and photographs relating to each interview, along with transcripts and translations. Many of the testimonies were recorded in Armenian, but about 20 percent are in English and some are in Turkish and Spanish.

An estimated 1.5 million Armenians died in the World War I-era genocide, which has been the subject of fierce political debate for decades.

“The figure `a million and a half’ can roll right over our shoulders,” Hovannisian said. “But it’s different when you take those individual interviews and start listening to them one by one. And then it becomes a million-and-a-half individuals and the loss of a civilization, of a way of life, a space where people lived for more than 3,000 years, and everything that space contained.”

The Shoah Foundation Institute for Visual History and Education includes 55,000 testimonies from eyewitnesses to the Holocaust and other genocides.

 

—City News Service

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 10:46 AM

Every time ErDOGan opens his filthy mouth against Israel, someone comes out of amnesia and blurts the Armenian Genocide recognition enough already, either recognize it or shut up. 

Public Radio of Armenia

April 2 2018
 
 
Israeli Minister calls for recognition of Armenian Genocide
 
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Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan has slammed Turkish President Erdogan, calling him “an antisemite,” and has urged to recognize the Armenian Genocide, the Jerusalem Postreported.

Speaking on Army Radio, Erdan said that “it’s possible Israel should have acted against Turkey in the international arena and recognized the Armenian genocide committed by the Ottoman Empire.”

Erdan further said that he believes Israel should ”present the values held by the Turks around the world, including recognition of the slaughter of the Armenians. We must stand up to the hostility and antisemitism of Erdogan. A strange thing is taking place here when a country like Turkey, which butchers the Kurds [and] occupies north Cyprus is accepted in the West as a legitimate state.”

Erdan’s comments follow a verbal exchange of fire Sunday, when Erdogan called Israel a “terrorist state and occupier,” and Netanyahu a “terrorist.”

 

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 09:09 AM

Oh look Turkey is misbehaving again, bring back the stick (Armenian Genocide) and warn them! 

Jewish News Syndicate

April 3 2018
 
 
As tensions with Turkey rise, minister calls for Israel to recognize Armenian genocide
The call to recognize the mass murders of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman government in 1915 as genocide follows a war of words between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, including Erdoğan calling Israel a “terrorist state.”
 

(April 3, 2018 / Israel Hayom/Exclusive to JNS) With tensions between Israel and Turkey on the rise, Israeli Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan has called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to recognize the mass murders of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman government in 1915 as genocide.

In the past, the Foreign Ministry had assessed that such a move was likely to lead to the expulsion of Israeli Embassy staff in Ankara and the recalling of Turkey’s ambassador from Israel.

While Turkey denies that the mass killings constitute genocide, some 29 countries and 48 of the 50 U.S. states have officially recognized them as such.

Erdan’s call to recognize the Armenian genocide follows a war of words between Netanyahu and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, in which Erdoğan has accused Israel of using “disproportionate force” against the “peaceful protesters” during the March 30 Hamas-orchestrated march in the Gaza Strip.

He later called Israel a “terrorist state.”

On Monday, Erdan said the 2016 reconciliation between Jerusalem and Ankara may have been “a mistake.”

Once close regional allies, Israel and Turkey froze diplomatic ties after the 2010 Israeli Navy raid on a flotilla trying to breach the Gaza blockade, in which 10 Turkish nationals were killed.

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:39 AM

Algemeiner, Germany
April 4 2018
 
 
As Tensions With Turkey Rise, Minister Calls for Israel to Recognize Armenian Genocide by Israel Hayom / JNS.org

 

JNS.org – With tensions between Israel and Turkey on the rise, Israeli Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan has called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to recognize the mass murder of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman government in 1915 as genocide.

In the past, the Foreign Ministry had assessed that such a move was likely to lead to the expulsion of Israeli Embassy staff in Ankara and the recalling of Turkey’s ambassador from Israel.

While Turkey denies that the mass killings constitute genocide, some 29 countries and 48 of the 50 US states have officially recognized them as such.

Erdan’s call to recognize the Armenian genocide follows a war of words between Netanyahu and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, in which Erdoğan has accused Israel of using “disproportionate force” against the “peaceful protesters” during the March 30 Hamas-orchestrated march in the Gaza Strip.

He later called Israel a “terrorist state.”

On Monday, Erdan said the 2016 reconciliation between Jerusalem and Ankara may have been “a mistake.”

Once close regional allies, Israel and Turkey froze diplomatic ties after the 2010 Israeli Navy raid on a flotilla trying to breach the Gaza blockade, in which 10 Turkish nationals were killed.

https://www.algemein...enian-genocide/

 


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 08:30 AM

Every time ErDOGan barks, Israeli ministers all of a sudden remembers the Armenian Genocide!

Public Radio of Armenia

May 16 2018
 
 
No reason for Israel not to recognize Armenian Genocide, Intelligence Minister says
 
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Transportation and Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz said Wednesday he sees “no reason morally and historically” not to recognize the Armenian Genocide, adding that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan “is truly an enemy,” Ynet News reports.

In an interview with Ynet on Wednesday, Minister Yisrael Katz called to support a bill proposal by opposition MK Itzik Shmuli calling on the Israeli government to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide.

Israel’s Education Minister Naftali Bennett on Tesday called for official recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

“I turn to the speaker of the Knesset to approve the official recognition by  Israel of the Armenian genocide perpetrated by Turkey,” Bennett said.

A new diplomatic crisis erupted between Jerusalem and Ankara after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan leveled harsh criticism at Israel over the high death toll in clashes on the Gaza border between Palestinians and IDF.

Erdogan recalled his ambassador to Tel Aviv and expelled Israel’s ambassador. In response, Israel asked Turkey’s consul-general in Jerusalem to leave.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 08:32 AM

All talk and smoke, no action!

Public Radio of Armenia

May 16 2018
 
 
Israeli lawmakers move to recognize Armenian Genocide
 
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A bill recognizing the Armenian genocide returned to the Knesset’s agenda on Wednesday, the Jerusalem Post reports.

Zionist Union MK Itzik Shmuly and Likud MK Amir Ohana stated they would submit legislation to make Israel the 30th country to recognize the genocide of 1915.

The move came as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan lashed out at Israel over violent protests along the Gaza border. The Turkish President later recalled his ambassador from Israel and commented on Twitter that Israel is “an apartheid state that has occupied a defenseless people’s lands for 60+ years.”

Members of the Knesset in response concluded that the time had come to recognize the Armenian genocide by the Turks, a move Israel had previously avoided in order not to harm diplomatic relations with Turkey.

MK Shmuly emphasized that “We won’t accept moralizing from the antisemitic Turkish butcher who bombs thousands of Kurds in northwest Syria every day, and whose country is responsible for the genocide of the Armenian people and the historic horrors toward the Assyrians,” adding later that recognition of the genocide should have happened long ago.

MK Ohana argued that the diplomatic reasoning behind not acknowledging the genocide no longer existed, emphasizing that “it’s not too late to do justice. The time has come to officially recognize the terrible injustice done to the Armenians. When Hitler presented Wehrmacht officers with his plan for mass extermination in Poland, including women and children, he soothed the concerns about the world’s reaction by saying ‘who, after all, speaks today of the Armenians?’ For that reason alone we should have already officially recognized this genocide.”

Yesh Atid leader Yair Lapid sponsored a bill to recognize the Armenian genocide earlier this year, but it was voted down in February, which means it cannot be submitted again until August.

Lapid called for Israel to downgrade ties with Ankara permanently along with recognizing the Armenian genocide, openly helping the Kurds and encouraging the US to try to remove Turkey from NATO.

Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein has called for the Knesset to recognize the Armenian genocide, as did his predecessor, President Reuven Rivlin. Many bills to recognize the atrocities were proposed and voted down over the years, but the Knesset Education, Culture and Sport Committee has voted to recognize the genocide.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:26 AM

Asbarez.com
 
Israeli Lawmakers Play the ‘Genocide Card’ Again
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With the rift widening between Turkey and Israel over the latter’s bombing of Palestinian settlement in Gaza, Israeli lawmakers, once again, drew the “Armenian Genocide Card,” by returning the Genocide recognition bill to the Knesset’s agenda on Wednesday.

Zionist Union and Likud party lawmakers Itzik Shmuly and Amir Ohana stated they would submit legislation to make Israel the 30th country to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

The move came as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan lashed out at Israel over violent protests along the Gaza border. The Turkish President later recalled his ambassador from Israel and commented on Twitter that Israel is “an apartheid state that has occupied a defenseless people’s lands for 60+ years,” reported the Jerusalem Post.

Members of the Knesset in response concluded that the time had come to recognize the Armenian genocide by the Turks, a move Israel had previously avoided in order not to harm diplomatic relations with Turkey.

Shmuly emphasized that “We won’t accept moralizing from the antisemitic Turkish butcher who bombs thousands of Kurds in northwest Syria every day, and whose country is responsible for the genocide of the Armenian people and the historic horrors toward the Assyrians,” adding later that recognition of the genocide should have happened long ago.

“Every time the Turkish regime does something to anger Israel, the Jewish state’s politicians and members of parliament threaten Ankara with the recognition of the Armenian Genocide, furthering their cowardice as a nation that rose from the ashes of the Holocaust,” Asbarez editor Ara Khachatourian wrote in an op-ed in December when, once again, Israel-Turkey ties were frayed.

“If the recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Israel, which should have been a no-brainer, is contingent on Ankara’s whims, then, perhaps, Israeli lawmakers should abandon this effort and forever erase it from their agenda, since, evidently, the crime which served as a blueprint for Hitler to plan and execute the Holocaust does not warrant recognition by them unless Ankara, or more specifically, Erdogan angers the Jewish State,” added the Asbarez op-ed.

“Israel must recognize the Armenian Genocide not because it’s politically expedient, but because it is a historic fact. By not recognizing it, Israel continues to amplify its own hypocrisy by becoming complicit in its denial,” emphasized Asbarez in December.

Ohana argued that the diplomatic reasoning behind not acknowledging the genocide no longer existed, emphasizing that “it’s not too late to do justice. The time has come to officially recognize the terrible injustice done to the Armenians. When Hitler presented Wehrmacht officers with his plan for mass extermination in Poland, including women and children, he soothed the concerns about the world’s reaction by saying ‘who, after all, speaks today of the Armenians?’ For that reason alone we should have already officially recognized this genocide.”

Yesh Atid leader Yair Lapid sponsored a bill to recognize the Armenian genocide earlier this year, but it was voted down in February, which means it cannot be submitted again until August.

Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein has called for the Knesset to recognize the Armenian genocide, as did his predecessor, President Reuven Rivlin. Many bills to recognize the atrocities were proposed and voted down over the years, but the Knesset Education, Culture and Sport Committee has voted to recognize the Genocide.

 

 

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