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[MosJan]

http://www.hetq.am/e...0503-dub-7.html

So, in 2004 $9mln US entered Armenia from Emirates. As the article rightly notes Emirates do not import anything from Armenia and a large part of this money is ...

2001 - $ 654,200
2002 - $ 3,933,300
2003 - $ 5,769,500
2004 - $ 8,792,800
For a comparison. There are 3 Mersedes Maibach models in Armenia at present owned by well known oligarchs. If I am not wrong, each one costs $US300.000 or more.

These models were ordered from Armenia among the first ones in Europe! And the owners have some 2 million worth of luxury car fleet in their garages.

Armen jan are you sure that we ( Armenia ) has nothing that Emirates can import ???

so all we Armenians can offer to Emirates is our kids ??? for sex ???

[MosJan]

EXPORT

Search #1 Armenian exports to united Arab Emirates

http://www.agbu.org/...ay.asp?A_ID=115



http://66.102.7.104/...lient=firefox-a
MAP Clients in the United Arab Emirates



USDA MAP presented four of its clients - Noyan and SIS Natural juice producing companies as well as Atenk meat processing and Village Group dairy processing companies - at the "Investment Potential in Armenia" business forum in the United Arab Emirates on April 3-8. The forum was organized jointly by the Armenian Development Agency and the Chambers of Commerce of Abu Dhabi, Dubui, and Sharjah Emirates in the related Emirates. The total number of the participating Armenian companies was 17. According to Armenuhi Sahakyan, MAP Advertisement and Promotions Specialist, a large number of those interested in export and import activities, investment projects and joint ventures were present. In her words, the forum in Emirates was successful in improving the awareness on the Armenian processing enterprises and finding a new and high potential market for Armenian fresh and processed agricultural products. Ms. Sahakyan stated that the UAE imports 70% of the total food consumed in the country. This opens good perspectives for delicious Armenian fruits in this important export market. "The Armenian businessmen were provided with valuable information on advantages of becoming a part of the Free Trade Zone at Zabal Ali, UAE," said Armenuhi. The participants were also provided the opportunity to visit with the leaders of the Armenian Diaspora and the Armenian business community in the Emirates.

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http://www.classbrai...a_economy.shtml

Exports - commodities:
diamonds, mineral products, foodstuffs, energy

Exports - partners:
Belgium 18.5%, UK 17%, Israel 13%, Russia 11.6%, Iran 8%, US 6.3%, Germany 5.1% (2003 est.)
i can' t see UAE in exports
Imports:
$1.18 billion f.o.b. (2003 est.)

Imports - commodities:
natural gas, petroleum, tobacco products, foodstuffs, diamonds

Imports - partners:
Russia 14.2%, Belgium 12.1%, US 9.9%, Israel 9.3%, Iran 9.2%, Germany 7%, UAE 5.6%, Italy 4.9% (2003 est.)



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Sil Group & joint venture with HARWAL Ltd. of the United Arab Emirates

This is one of the Largest Exporters from Armenia to UAE
3 of Sil's Co are joint venture with HARWAL Ltd
MASIS GOFROTARA OJSC
The company is Armenia's major producer of corrugated cardboard and corrugated cardboard boxes that meet international standards. The company was established in 1969. During the Soviet period, the company supplied 30-35% of the total market that included Russia, the Transcaucasus, and the Middle Asia. In 1995, the company was privatised, prior to which it was operating only at 8% of its total capacity. In 1997, when it became a joint venture with the United Arab Emirates' HARWAL Ltd. Company, new technology was introduced which allowed for the production of sanitary paper tissues. HARWAL Ltd. provides the company with the necessary raw materials for the production of the sanitary tissues as well as the corrugated cardboard.

Yerevan Polyplast OJSC
Yerevan Polyplast manufactures various plastic household items, pipes, sanitation piping units, polyethylene film and bags, linoleum and artificial leather. During the Soviet period, this factory was very well known throughout the former USSR as it supplied automobile manufacturing giants such as AVTOVAZ, MOSKVICH, and GAZ . Its share in the total Soviet Union market was 20%. By the time it was privatised to SIL Group in 1996, it was running only at 5% of its total capacity. The company became a joint venture with HARWAL Ltd. in 1997. Due to a very high quality of production the company was awarded with internationally recognised "Gold Star" award in November 1998.

ZOVQ Factory OJSC JV
ZOVK was one of the last production enterprises established in the late 1980s in Soviet Armenia. It produced lemonade. Its share in the Soviet market was only 0.07%. When the company was privatised to SIL Group in 1997, it was idle for 2 years. It became a joint venture with HARWAL Ltd.of the United Arab Emirates in 1997. Today, it has a major market share for refreshments in Armenia producing natural juices of different flavours. \\


SIL Group is the exclusive distributor of Procter & Gamble and represents Londa, Sara Lee, Philip Morris, and Adidas in Armenia.

letters of credit mechanizm - is not used wan HARWAL Ltd is sending money to SIl is it ???


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STAR VALLEY Co. represents SIL Group in the United Arab Emirates (Dubai). The strategic location of the company in Dubai allows SIL Group to expand its resources in the area of international trade and production. STAR VALLEY has strong ties with the agencies that represent world famous companies in the Arab world.

The company offers foodstuff, mineral waters, sweets and lighting products as well as transportation of goods to CIS countries via air, road and sea.
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stop by at sil.am

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http://www.armpolicy..... Matosyan.pdf

9. Recommended Armenian products for the Gulf markets:
a. Dried and dehydrated fruits and vegetables – especially apricots, peaches,
apples, figs and cherries, sun dried tomatoes for the consumer market, and
dehydrated vegetables for the processing and manufacturing market
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b. For the consumer market, target high labor content place packed as
opposed to throw packed fruits, and attempt to develop a market for the
uniquely Armenian “sujuk,” as well as a new formulation and market for
preserved young walnuts, perhaps as an accompaniment to meat
c. Herbal teas and tisanes for both the Gulf and world markets – there is
opportunity for unique positioning with flavor qualities, hand harvesting,
heirloom varieties, organic, medicinal traditions and folklore etc. This is a
market at its initial stages in the UAE, with “health and nutrition” shops
just starting to make an appearance
d. Extremely high quality baby vegetables and fresh and dried herbs
positioned for the HRI (hotel, restaurant and institutional) trade
e. Gourmet quality flavored oils and vinegars – walnut oil, raspberry and
tarragon vinegars, other specialty food products
f. Selected cut flowers
g. Heirloom varieties of seeds, seedlings, nursery plants
h. Fruit syrups, essences, essential oils and flavorings – highly concentrated
for the flavoring and perfumery markets
Armenia is at best an unknown factor in the Gulf markets, at worst a country with a poor
reputation for consistency, quality, and honesty. The development of a “story” to detract
from the current negative impression, and to reinforce the opinion of the trade that there
is official and serious support for Armenian agribusiness, may help ease the transition of
Armenian agribusiness into the Gulf markets.\

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Search #2 united Arab Emirates exports to Armenia

http://www.medea.be/?page=2〈=en&doc=814

[Armen]

Armen jan are you sure that  we ( Armenia ) has nothing that Emirates can import ???

so  all we Armenians can offer to Emirates is  our kids ??? for  sex ???

Movses jan, it is very easy to find out. The trade statistics between Armenia and its partners is public. If you don't find anything exported to Emirates and find remmittances coming back to Armenia they have to come for some reason.

Ministry of Trade and Econ Development Statstics
http://www.minted.am...3-in_trade.html

Armenian export to UAE in 2003 - 6.5 mln US$
Armenian import from UAE in 2003 - 57.7 mln US$

Hetq says that according to Armenian Central Bank's public relations department the wire transfers in 2003 were at US$ 5,769,500

Now, trade payments are normally done by letters of credit mechanizm (accreditive). As far as I understand wire transfers have nothing to do with this. I can't immagine someone sending the commodities and waiting for the payer to tranfer the money by wire transfer. It can happen between Armenians but it is not a normal pratice.

However! If the Hetq journalists did not clarify exactly what are these wire trasfers that can point to a mistake in their research. But I think they made it clear by directly talking to some of the actual senderd of those remittances. Mmm... it would not harm to doublecheck this info though.

Edited by Armen, 18 March 2005 - 03:39 PM.

[whitelotus]

Thanks so much Kakachik and Edward

[MosJan]

Movses jan, it is very easy to find out. The trade statistics between Armenia and its partners is public. If you don't find anything exported to Emirates and find remmittances coming back to Armenia they have to come for some reason.

Ministry of Trade and Econ Development Statstics
http://www.minted.am...3-in_trade.html

Armenian export to UAE in 2003 - 6.5 mln US$
Armenian import from UAE in 2003 - 57.7 mln US$

Hetq says that according to Armenian Central Bank's public relations department the wire transfers in 2003 were at US$ 5,769,500

Now, trade payments are normally done by letters of credit mechanizm (accreditive). As far as I understand wire transfers have nothing to do with this. I can't immagine someone sending the commodities and waiting for the payer to tranfer the money by wire transfer. It can happen between Armenians but it is not a normal pratice.

However! If the Hetq journalists did not clarify exactly what are these wire trasfers that can point to a mistake in their research. But I think they made it clear by directly talking to some of the actual senderd of those remittances. Mmm... it would not harm to doublecheck this info though.

Armen jan i can see haw SIl by him self can do %50 of that 5m

[Armen]

Armen jan i can see  haw  SIl  by  him self  can do  %50 of that 5m

Movese jan, I don't think Khachatour Sukiasyan sends money home from UAE by wire transefers or buys stuff from Armenia by wire transfers. Although, as I said it would not be bad to check what are those wire transfers exactly.

Edited by Armen, 18 March 2005 - 06:11 PM.

[MosJan]

it's a wire transfers you knwo who send the $$$$ and you can know who gat the $$$

Sukyasyan ??? Sil@ g@rzoyin@ chi "Silachu t@gherq"

[Armen]

Movses, et Khachatur Sukiasiane henc Grzon a

[Lana]

Here is a site in Armenian: www.antitrafficking.am.
It seems to be having troubles currently but I was told by the creators that it'll be ok soon.

[Armen]

It seems to be having troubles currently but I was told by the creators that it'll be ok soon.

How symbolic, the site is doing just like the notion of antitrafficking in Armenia: having troubles.

[whitelotus]

How are the woman viewed before being 'ordered' for prostitution? What's the method being used.

Edited by whitelotus, 18 March 2005 - 11:47 PM.

[MosJan]

just did a search on Google for _ woman viewed before being 'ordered' for prostitution_

http://www.google.co...G=Google Search

hmmmm - sims like Armenians are not the only one from behind the Iron Curtain who has a such problem


http://www.stopvaw.org/30Sep20044.html

http://www.aliran.co...d-kingpins.html

[whitelotus]

Thanks Mos jan

[AraManoogian]

just did a  search on Google for _ woman viewed before being 'ordered' for prostitution_

http://www.google.co...G=Google Search

hmmmm - sims like Armenians are not the only one from behind the Iron Curtain who has a such problem


http://www.stopvaw.org/30Sep20044.html

http://www.aliran.co...d-kingpins.html

It seems that Bulgaria and Armenia have a lot in common.

Other than trafficking, the people here in Armenia, as well in Bulgaria, for the most part believe that the victims knew what they were getting into when they left and became “prostitutes”.

Since my return from Dubai and news of our work coming out, I’ve had heated arguments with quite a few individuals who keep saying that the girls we spoke to are lying to us and our figure of 80% tricked and 20% being volunteers is not accurate. This is coming from people who have never met, let alone talked face to face with a trafficking victim and don’t have a shred of evidence to support their claims.

The reality is and like the story titled “Bulgarian Trafficking Victims Face Hard Homecoming” (see: http://www.stopvaw.o...0Sep20044.html), most trafficking victims were hoping for a kind of Cinderella Dream, or at most a legitimate job and in the end were enslaved into working as prostitutes.

It seems that not only will our work in bringing back and rehabilitating the victims be hard, but even more difficult will be teaching the general public that victims are victims and for all of us to heal, we have treat the victims with the same respect we treat any other living being.

Any ideas on how we can change this way of thinking?

[Armen]

Hello Ara,

Wanted to welcome you and then noticed you have been a member for quite some times already!

While agreeing with what you said about the social attitude towards the victims I wanted to emphacise the importance of the high level of unemployment, which in my opinion is the most important problem to solve and must be prioritised in the context of fight against trafficking.

I am more than sure that if the "shadow economy" factor is decreased (it was covered in Hetq's articles I referenced a couple of posts back) and the monopolies are regulated the unemployment will go down significantly.

If this problem is not solved there will always be an new incoming group of girls who will go for it because at some point lost their hope, husband or bread winner ... they simply want to leave a little better or, in most cases, make some money to feed their children or parents.

Surely, the the psychological damage control and rehabilitation are very important in their turn.

[MosJan]

One of the solutions that might work is not letting any Girl under age of 19~20 go out of Armenia – unless the parents are with them.. a collateral in a form of asset should be given to government –like house or property.

Girls should have special visa - and the party who will accept/invite them in USA – Canada – Japan or EUA - most present string of legal documents and “bond” or collateral - if the girl is not returned to Armenian in the time set on her visa then parents & the inviting party will be responsible, unless legal document is presented to officials that the girl has been marred - documents & photos & video of the wedding to be presented - - same if attending school or university…. and even if it’s presented - to keep the case open for ~2 or 3 years –
If the girl returns to Armenia and clime is made by her that she was sold to slavery – or she was a victim of prostitution – than not only the inviting party but also the parents of the girl will be responsible.
Government of Armenia should use the $$$$ of the bond & the assets from collateral’s to help the girl – pay for her treatments. But treatments & basic necessities only ( including food & medicine ) no $$$ most be given to girl….

I know this opens a new revenue for some corrupted government employee$ – but it just might work - and no parent can ever say that he or she did not know that she was going to work as an prostitute.

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Now if a Victim has returned to Armenia and is seeking help – if her family or the society will not accept them – what can be don to help ~ hmmmm
Relocate them – gave them a new start after treatments, job training…… and use some of the $$ ( if any left ) from assets – for new housing - wich will be her own if she stays ther for 10 yeras.

[Harut]

another thing is to raise the awairness among the public that such things happen... people need to approach to "great career opportunities" in abroad with scepticism...
but of course, i don't want to divert from the root causes of this phenomenon, which are high unemployement and government indifference to the issue (or should i say their involvement in this)...

[Lana]

It seems to be having troubles currently but I was told by the creators that it'll be ok soon.

How symbolic, the site is doing just like the notion of antitrafficking in Armenia: having troubles.

The web-site is fine, I just checked it. The videos are the best!!!

[Armen]

The web-site is fine, I just checked it. The videos are the best!!!

Yup, it works now.

[AraManoogian]

Here is another question. What can the Diaspora do to prevent trafficking and to be part of the overall solution? I know this is a loaded question, but it has to be asked.