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[ediecago]

Help!

I just returned from Hayastan and I must have aveluk-lentil soup. I also need a better recipe for spas. The soups in Armenia are wonderful and different from the soups I've had elsewhere. And where, pray does one get AVELUK in Chicago? I know one of the secrets to the lentil-aveluk soup is aveluk and the other is garlic (imagine that?).

Is there a decent substitute for this lovely, lemony green?

Please help!

[ExtraHye]

Welcome to the forum ediecago, hope you enjoy your stay. How are things in Chicago, I was there about two years ago, and loved it. Just a bit of adivse, stay away from Armen and Sasun, they're bad news.

Azat and Maral would be the ones to help you with this. They're great cooks.

[Armen]

Just a bit of adivse, stay away from Armen and Sasun, they're bad news.   

Why Extra? You don't like a "Holy soup" with candels? I though you're a romantic

[ExtraHye]

Why Extra? You don't like a "Holy soup" with candels? I though you're a romantic   

Well theres only one way to find out. When are you inviting me over?

[Arpa]

Help! 

I just returned from Hayastan and I must have aveluk-lentil soup.  I also need a better recipe for spas.  The soups in Armenia are wonderful and different from the soups I've had elsewhere.  And where, pray does one get AVELUK in Chicago?
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Please help! 

Where?
Look in your backyard or front yard at that!

Oxalis!!

Beside the secondary meanings of "aveluk" as "leftover", self explantory, or the stuff that we sweep with an avel...
Aveluk is also known as "thrthnjuk" which in turn points to Oxalis. The sour lemony taste is from the oxalic acid...

Did you guess already?

Tataaaa.....!!!

Clover!


Caution!
Oxalic acid is toxic. Before you poison yourself find out exactly which clover it is and how it is prepared/cured.

Edit: Upon further reading it seems that what we are talking about, rather than the common lawn clover, it may be this;

http://www.ces.ncsu....son/Oxalisp.htm

Edited by Arpa, 08 December 2004 - 07:14 PM.

[ediecago]

Thanks for the warm welcome.

I'm confused though: Why would they make entire salads of the poached stuff if oxalis is toxic? Also, the clover you cited has three round leaves (regular, front-yard clover), whereas aveluk I'm looking for has long dark green leaves (8-10 inches long?) that are braided together and dried.

I think I'm looking for something closer to dinosaur kale or swiss chard?

Besides, I don't like the answer that the yummy stuff is toxic. Give me another answer!

How about aveluk makes you thin and beautiful and brings good luck?

Chicago is wonderful. Like New York but cheaper, cleaner, less-dense, and friendlier.

Edie

[Anileve]

Why Extra? You don't like a "Holy soup" with candels? I though you're a romantic   

AHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH! That was great! "Vi menya v krasku zagnali, Armen."

[Arpa]

Thanks for the warm welcome. 
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I think I'm looking for something closer to dinosaur kale or swiss chard? 

Besides, I don't like the answer that the yummy stuff is toxic.  Give me another answer!

Edie

I lied. Not really!

I was not totally convinced with the clover story as in Armenian the clover is known, obviously, as "ereqnuk", trifolia.
I did not look in the most likely places.
Aveluk is Rumex. You will note that it also contains oxalic acid. To be more precise it is Rumex acetosa, common name Sorrel, like this;

http://www.gardengui...cles/sorrel.htm

How is this?
http://www.gardengui...llentilsoup.htm

Are we friends now?

BTW. Welcome Edie!

Edited by Arpa, 08 December 2004 - 08:56 PM.

[Azat]

Hello Edie,
Welcome to Hye Forum and welcome back from Armenia.
I am not sure if you are going to be able to make soups(food in general) to taste as good as they taste in Armenia. But here is a bit of info

Here is the recipe for Spas
http://www.armenians...cipe.php?id=116

As for Aveluk, do you have any relatives in LA? Some Armenian sores import it from Yerevan and you can ask them to just send it to you as it is very light as they are dried. If not, just PM me and I will send it to you right after the holidays when all the lines go down in the post office)

[nairi]

Hey Az, is that the same as tanapur? We call it something else too (more common word) but it escaped my mind right now. Sip?? You know what I mean?

But your recipe looks more complicated. I think ours is yoghurt, water, broken rice, a few spices (not sure which, but I can smell them), salt and pepper, Spanish peppers and garlic cloves for taste (not supposed to be eaten!!). That's it. But I know they use wheat a lot in Hayastan instead of rice.

[Sip]

Hey Az, is that the same as tanapur? We call it something else too (more common word) but it escaped my mind right now. Sip?? You know what I mean?

Ash e Mast?

[nairi]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ashmast!!!!!! I guess that's a Persian word... Still, love the stuff! Thank you!!

[Sip]

Anytime For those who might be curious, "mast" means yogurt in farsi and ash is well ... ash

[Arpa]

Anytime   For those who might be curious, "mast" means yogurt in farsi and ash is well ... ash   

Mast means intoxicated/drunk.
As to its maning of yogurt.. I did not know and neither can I find it. Is it not tantalizingly homophonous with "mats" as in "matsun"?

Ash is an Arabic word that literally means life/living/sustenance.

Here is a test.
What culinary Armenian word is also based on life/living/sustenance as well?

[Sip]

Mast means intoxicated/drunk.

Mast with the a as in 'Andrew' is that. I meant mast with the 'a' as in 'Azat'... I was thinking of writing "must", but for some reason, changed my mind.

By the way, no one told me about no test today

[MosJan]

Help! 

I just returned from Hayastan and I must have aveluk-lentil soup.  I also need a better recipe for spas.  The soups in Armenia are wonderful and different from the soups I've had elsewhere.  And where, pray does one get AVELUK in Chicago?  I know one of the secrets to the lentil-aveluk soup is aveluk and the other is garlic (imagine that?).

Is there a decent substitute for this lovely, lemony green?

Please help! 

one place you can get Aveluk is the Victory Produce in Van Nuys - next to KArabagh Meet market
sorry don’t have the phone number for you

[nairi]

It's a take-home exam, so don't worry

My guess is at apur..

[Arpa]

It's a take-home exam, so don't worry

My guess is at apur..

Apur-is Nairi!
I mean, APRIS!


It is obvious now that "apur" is based on "april", to live/life. It would be interesting, I'll have to look it up, as to which came first the (chicken) soup or the (egg drop) soup. Whether live/life is based on apur or apur is based on april.
Consider another word also based on the same root- apranq/supplies, not to forget "aprust"/livelihood.

Edited by Arpa, 13 December 2004 - 02:32 PM.

[Arpa]

Mast with the a as in 'Andrew' is that. I meant mast with the 'a' as in 'Azat'... I was thinking of writing "must", but for some reason, changed my mind.

By the way, no one told me about no test today 

Once again you failed the test Sip.
You'll have to stand in the corner with this on.
Just you wait! You just wait!
One of these days you will face the acid test!

[Arpa]

Mast with the a as in 'Andrew' is that. I meant mast with the 'a' as in 'Azat'... I was thinking of writing "must", but for some reason, changed my mind.

Btw. I did know the difference. It is also used in Turkish, i.e. mast as in the mast of a ship, sounds like last is drunk/intoxicated aad mast as in wasp is the other, just like in "matsun".