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#21 HyeFedayis



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Posted 03 May 2008 - 03:22 PM

The Khojaly affair which was a propaganda scenario, very distorted and horrified by Turkish masterminds at that time to hide the Sumgait and Baku pogroms of Armenians, and now it is used to hide the Armenian Genocide of 1915, In several Azeri sources you can find there contradicting numbers from there own pages going from 200, 250-400, 500 and even 2000, and all in a unreliable way. The Khojaly operation was no different from similar operations against Armenians in Maragha, Chahoumian, Getachen and so forth. The responsibility of Azeri authorities on not evacuating the people, and second the will of the popular front of Azerbaijan to organize the massacre and to catch the power from Mutalilbov. The fact also many of the civilians were not Azeris but Mshkhetian Turks from Uzbekistan. The fact that the killings were done just before the Azeri lines. The evacuation in Khojaly was always the case of Turks which was done in a pity way that is Armenians crashed there defense lines, their soldiers changed there uniforms into civilians, and hided in 'civilian' groups, while shooting on there way out. It is normal when you shoot from a group, that you will be fired back on.

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (HyeFedayis @ May 3 2008, 03:22 PM)
The Khojaly operation was no different from similar operations against Armenians in Maragha, Chahoumian, Getachen and so forth.

What do you exactly mean by this?

The "Azeri" garbage was firing Grads round the clock for months on innocent Armenian civilians from Khojaly yet Maragha was a peaceful village where people lived their lives. The genocidal "Azeri" filth sawed off heads of innocent civilians and burnt the bodies of dozens of Armenians in an "Azeri" controlled region.

In Shahoomian-Getashen "and so forth" they used the Russian army, aerial bombardment and artillery shelling to ethnically "cleanse" 24 Armenian districts from its peaceful population in an "Azeri" occupied Armenian territory... These were definitely acts of genocide where the Khojaly thing was a necessary wartime operation.

The insignificant Khojaly incident scam is a Judeo-Turkish fabrication to smear the Armenians where the real victims were the 34 slaughtered Armenian hostages in Aghdam whose faces and bodies were mutilated by bloodthirsty "Azeri" scavengers to prevent them from being recognized. The photos and video of these unfortunate Armenians taken by Chingiz Mustafayev are used and abuse by the "Azeri" vermin to bring the Armenians down to their parasitical level after killing poor Mustafayev who found out the hoax and reported it to Moscow.

Chingiz Mustafayev a Turk with more integrity than the Jew Thomas Goltz. He smelled the Khojaly shit that hit the fan and was murdered by his "Azeri" siblings in "Azeri" controlled Armenian territory

The Jew scambug Thomas Goltz with a Turk wife that didn't even have the integrity of Chingiz Mustafayev and fabricated the insignificant Khojaly incident scam

I have dealt with all of this in the relevant sections of And the Fraud Had a Name, Azarbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

Edited by Hellektor, 03 May 2008 - 05:41 PM.

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 08:28 AM

Claims of Armenian Killing Spree in Khojalou is Azeri Propaganda
OTTAWA--There is no evidence that the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabagh committed "genocide against Meskhetian Turks of Khojalou," said Canadian military historian Patrick Wilson Gore, during the launch of his latest book last week Thursday.

The allegation are merely claims from the Azeri propaganda machine, Gore said.

The Canadian military historian made the statement at the launch of “Tis Some Poor Fellow's Skull---Post-Soviet Warfare in the Southern Caucasus” at the embassy of the Republic of Armenia. The gathering was co-sponsored by the Armenian Embassy and the Armenian National Committee of Canada (ANCC).

After welcoming remarks by Arman Agopian, the charge d'affaires of the Republic of Armenia and an introduction of the author by Paul Douzjian, board member of the ANCC, Gore presented a brief history of Nagorno-Karabagh, the legal and political aspects of the crisis, the origins of the war, economic background, battles, strategic objectives, the aftermath, and the current state of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe peace negotiation.

Gore stated that Stalin's inclusion of Nagorno-Karabagh within the territory of Azerbaijan was due to his "paranoia" of Armenians and a secret deal between him and Ataturk, the Turkish dictator.

The Canadian expert stated that for 70 years, Armenians of Nagorno-Karabagh were treated as second-class citizens under Azeri rule. The treatment of Armenians by Azeris was a classic case of ethnic cleansing. After the Sumgait and Baku massacres of Armenians in the early late 1980s and early 1990s, the Armenians were forced to fight to defend their families and their lives, he explained.

The author went over the battles of Shoushi, Lachin, Shahumian, Khojalou and other important battles, internal turmoil in Azerbaijan, and other political, economic, and military factors which decided the outcome of the war and the current status of the region.

In regard to the Khojalou incident, Gore said “Azeri troops ran faster than the Meskhetian Turk civilians that they had been using as human shields.” Upon their retreat to Agdam, civilians of Khojalou were fired upon by the Azeri OMON garrison of Agdam, mistaking them for Armenian forces. He said that a day before the start of Khojalou battle, the Azeri forces executed 32 Armenian prisoners of war.

Regarding the ongoing Azeri government threats of resumption of war to take Nagorno-Karabagh, Gore said that “peace is for the benefit of both sides.”

Gore said that although it is true that the Azeri government is getting emboldened with its new-found oil wealth, Aliev government has to “consider that their oil and gas pipelines run 30 km north of Nagorno-Karabagh, and Azeris have invested heavily in their Baku facilities.”

He questioned whether Azeris want to jeopardize their vital pipelines and “risk their money sources.”

Gore also commented on Turkish government political and military support to Azerbaijan, the use of mercenaries by the Azeri government, the Minsk Group mediation, and other matters related to the Nagorno-Karabagh conflict.

The timely publication of the objective and probing book is of vital importance for the comprehension of the situation in the region and to everyone interested in the future of the Caucasus.

The solution of the conflict is of vital importance because the war was fought in the bottleneck between Russia and Iran, through which Central Asian and Caspian oil and natural gas pipelines run, and through which U.S. and allied air traffic to and from Afghanistan and Pakistan must pass.

The author of the 139-page book is a Canadian specialist in military history and theory. He studied at Oxford, and subsequently graduated from the National Defence College at Kingston, one of NATO's senior command colleges. Much of his career has focused on strategic intelligence. This is his eleventh book. He used to be paratrooper and marine commando.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Source: http://www.asbarez.c...en&ASBSC=Closed

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 08:35 AM


Karabakh Foreign Ministry
Monday, July 7, 2008

The official Azeri propaganda campaign to depict Armenians as
perpetrators of a so-called massacre in Khojaly in 1992 is in full
swing, as some Azeri Websites have begun to circulate photos of
atrocities in the Kosovo war as images of dead Azeris at the hand
of Armenians.

The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Foreign Minsitry press service recently
unveiled several Websites that utilized forged documents and photos
to advance the Azeri version of the Khodjalu events in an effort to
sway Azeri and world public opinion.

The photograph in question, which has appeared in Khojaly.org and
Azerbaijan.az, depicts a slew of ravaged corpses in a populated area,
to reinforce its claims that Armenian massacred Azeris in that area.

Studies of the color-version of the photograph in question have
concluded that the same photograph was used by Serbian and Albanoan
Websites, as well as the New York Times and other newspapers in the US.

The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Foreign Ministry, in a statement,
reminded that on February 25 and 26, 1992 the Karabakh Defense Army
launched a military operation to liberate the only airport in the
republic that was under Azeri control, and from where, since 1991,
systematic attacks were being launched by Azeris on populated areas
of Karabakh

The liberation of the airport and neutralizing of Azeri armed units in
Khojaly were of vital strategic importance for ensuring the security
and safety of the Karabakh population.

"Sub units of the Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army granted a corridor
(evacuation routs: eds) for the safe passage of the Khojaly population
days before the operation, about which the Azeri side was notified,"
said the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Foreign Ministry.

"It is a well-know fact that the Karabakh authorities informed Azeri
side of the plan to neutralize Azeri weapons caches two months prior to
the operations," added the foreign ministry, saying that confirmation
of the information was received by then Azeri President Ayaz Mutalibov.

The Karbakh Foreign Minister explained that despite the warnings by
the Karabakh Defense Army, the Azeri government did not undertake any
effort to evacuate the civilian population of Khojaly. Furthermore,
a group of civilians on route to Aghdam was massacred around the
same time.

The Karabakh foreign ministry revealed that at the time, Mutalibov
linked the massacres to his opposition, who were attempting to topple
him from power.

The foreign ministry also detailed that area, where Azeri filmed and
photographed corpses was in fact three kilometers away from Aghdam
and 11 kilometers away from Khojaly, adding that until the liberation
of Aghdam in 1993, that area was exclusively under Azeri control and
all access by Karabakh Defense forces was blocked and prohibited.

The foreign ministry also said that details of the Khojaly events
remain "shrouded in mystery" by official Baku, and efforts to depict
Armenians as perpetrators have, for years, been part of an official
anti-Armenian campaign to fuel hatred toward Armenians in Azebaijan.

One of the most hard-fought battles of the Karabakh liberation
struggle, the 1992 battle of Khojaly has been used by Azeris to allege
mass killings by Armenians, in an effort to veil Azeri-initiated
pogroms against Armenians in Sumgait, Kirovabad, Shahumian and Baku
in the late 1980s and early 1990s, as well as to create obstacles in
the peace process.

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 12:39 PM


  • Azeri TV reports on Khojalu – dead bodies of Azeris lying in a small field, are nothing more but an obvious lie, said Vladimir Vardanov, founder and commander of special-purpose force. “I can prove it. These were corpses of people who died long before it. As an observer, I was sitting right there, and these corpses appeared on the site after the end of the battle, some 7-8 hours later,” he told Bakour Karapetian, who provided PanARMENIAN.Net with the script of the interview. “I don’t think that the Azerbaijan authorities could be so mean as to shoot their escaping population. It was dark, I couldn’t see. I saw an exchange of fire with the position of Nakhijevanik, which lasted some 1-2 minutes, not more. After it, the refugees, understanding that it was a wrong direction, didn’t go to the positions of Nakhijevanik. I don’t exclude that some refugees died during the exchange of fire. When Azeri refugees went to Nakhijevanik, they were forced back from the position. Some 15-20 minutes after it, a very fierce fire was opened from the Azerbaijan positions. I don’t exclude that Azeri, who were in front of the position of Nakhijevanik, while seeing the numerous group approaching them, thought that Armenians were attacking, because before that they had an exchange of fire with Armenians. When refugees appeared in front of Azeri, a very fierce firing started. It is possible that the soldier, who watching over the position, was sleeping, but during that firing, he opened his eyes and “started” to fire uninterruptedly. A very strong firing continued. I believe that soldiers in the Azerbaijan position killed the civilians,” Vardanov said. “If we objectively approach the situation, I think that the governing body cannot punish those soldiers: it was their position, they were keeping it safe and they didn’t have any information. If those people died in Khodgalou, they wouldn’t appear on the territory under the inspection of Azerbaijan, Azeri would not come to take photographs, the highly esteemed governing body wouldn’t cry over the dead population. Me, who was fighting against them, felt bad seeing it, but when they showed the place, it became clear for me. After a very fierce firing, Azeri soldiers, who were among the refugees, started to fire back and it became a real battle. I don’t exclude that the corpses were gathered from the Turkish firing point and shifted to a medium size clearing to blame Armenians and to take photographs of the corpses. There were no corpses there. When the fire ceased, I was informed by Soviet portable radio transmitters: “You can come back”. Next midday we returned and there was no exchange of fire there,” he said. Azerbaijan claims that on February 26, 1992 Khojalu was attacked by Armenian forces. The Azeri authorities accuse Armenians of “killing civilians and taking some 2000 people hostage.” What really happened in Khodgalou

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:13 PM

Eynulla Fatullayev: It's Azerbaijani fighters, who are responsible for death of people in Khojaly in 1992, not Armenians

“Fatullayev defends his 2005 comments - which held Azerbaijani fighters, not Armenians, responsible for the 1992 killings - as consistent with those put forward by the Azerbaijani government itself, but says the regime has long sought to use the Khojaly events to persecute its opponents,” says Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty reporter Daisy Sindelar in her article about former Azerbaijani political prisoner and opposition journalist Eynulla Fatullayev.

Ask Azerbaijani journalist Fatullayev about his 4 years in prison, notes the author, and he'll answer not so much with words as with authors – Dovlatov, Yesenin, Hemingway, Solzhenitsyn, whose works helped him no to break while in prison. Once the co-editor of two influential opposition newspapers - the Russian-language “Realny Azerbaijan” and the Azeri-language “Gundelik Azerbaycan” - Eynulla Fatullayev was jailed in 2007 after being convicted on charges relating to comments on the Khojaly events during the Nagorno-Karabakh war.

“Look at Ayaz Mutalibov, the first president of Azerbaijan. He's still under criminal investigation, and for what? Complicity in the Khojaly events. Officially he is charged with failing to protect his citizens and exposing them to danger. Fahmin Hajiyev, the head of Azerbaijan's interior troops of the country, spent 11 years in prison because of the Khojaly events,” says Fatullayev.

Every year, Azerbaijani television shows a demonstration of little groups of people, holding portraits of Azerbaijanis who, as considered by the government of Azerbaijan, have participated in the Khojaly massacre, says the opposition journalist, adding that the government itself used those events to undermine the reputation of the Azerbaijani opposition who had been in power at the time. “And then to turn it around and put all the responsibility on me - to arrest a journalist - it's nonsense, it's a disgrace perpetrated by the Azeri government,” Eynulla Fatullayev says.

Fatullayev sustained a brutal beating on the street, seen his father kidnapped and his colleague Elmar Huseynov murdered, it is said in the publication of Radio Liberty. When he was imprisoned, officials continued the pressure, adding an additional 2 years to his sentence after allegedly finding heroin in his cell and subjecting Fatullayev to increasingly dismal conditions, including a 15-day wintertime internment in a "kartser," a Soviet-era concrete confinement cell.

“The only way to survive was to remain constantly in motion. If I stood still for even a moment, I would have died. I didn't sleep for 15 days, and I was constantly moving around. The windows were open to the outdoors and there was no bed. There was one very, very small heater, but then they turned that off as well. There were moments when I didn't know what to do, how to go on living,” said Eynulla Fatullayev.

However, as Daisy Sinderal writes, throughout his ordeal, Fatullayev managed to smuggle out articles and letters detailing his experience in jail, even as his lawyers were themselves pressured and frequently forced out of work. He also briefly found solace in a prison-time friendship with a fellow journalist and blogger Emin Milli, who was serving a 17-month term for hooliganism. Released in late 2010, Emin Milli soon left for England since he faced an uncertain future in Azerbaijan.

Eynulla Fatullayes says he's devastated by what's happened to his friend, however, he himself together with his wife Nigar is determined to stay in Azerbaijan, despite the fact that her family, many of whom work for the state administration, warned Nigar to steer clear of life with an opposition journalist. Nigar Fatullayeva says, she's ready to be with her husband until the end, even if he'll be in prison again.

Eynulla Fatullayev is perhaps the Azerbaijani journalist who is best known to the international community, it's said in the article. Reporters Without Borders and the Committee to Protect Journalists both repeatedly challenged his sentence, and Amnesty International named him a prisoner of conscience. The European Court of Human Rights ruled on Fatullayev's behalf a full year before he was finally released by a presidential pardon. In journalist's opinion, the attention may not have immediately secured his freedom, but it may have saved his life in prison. “They couldn't have killed me with everyone watching,” Fatullayev says.

For now, Fatullayev is content to continue blogging, but he is eager to return to newspaper publishing. “My friends want me to leave Azerbaijan, to go teach journalism someplace safe. But I don't want to give my captors the satisfaction. I want them to know: I'm still here - alive, working, and telling the truth,” says the journalist, however, acknowledging that prospects for Azerbaijan look bleak.

Azerbaijan, says Fatullayev, is witnessing a transformation from authoritarianism to totalitarianism, the first signs of which are the limits on the right to expression and freedom of speech. “Our imitation democracy is over, any early signs of liberalism were nipped in the bud. So it's very difficult to live in this country, let alone to resume journalistic work,” says Eynulla Fatullayev at the end.

Source: Panorama.am

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:14 AM



Step right in the CIRCUS is on with 3 Rings.
In ring #1 is bokhu, in #2 is ankaga and sadly, in the #3 is we who still call Artsakh “kara.bokh/black sh*t”.


Where in kehena/jehenem is/was kh***li? Observe this map where we don’t see it anymore.

In a map I have, printed in 1995 we can still see it, a few Km north of Stepanakert.
Let me ask again. Where the hell is kh***li? Does it still exist? What is it named now?
Observe where it alluded that the town was previously known as Khacha Ler./Խաչա Լեռ.

And the beat goes on. See who sings it.

And the comedy goes on. Read the rest here;

Mayor Veronika Kellerova: Lidice, Kh**aly not sister cities, no street named Kh**aly in Lidice
Mayor of Czech town Lidice Veronika Kellerova refuted the Azerbaijani media reports on declaring Lidice and Kh***ly sister cities as well as naming a street in Lidice after Khojaly in 2010 on the initiative of the Azerbaijani community in Czech Republic. The Azerbaijani media cited the Azer-Czech Society and the Azerbaijani Embassy in Czech Republic.
In this connection, the Orer Czech magazine sent an inquiry to the Mayor’s Office of Lidice. Mayor Veronika Kellerova refuted Azerbaijani media reports and announced officially that Lidice and Kh***ly are not sister cities and no street in Lidice has been named after Kh**aly…...

Edited by Arpa, 02 March 2012 - 12:26 PM.

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