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[Arpa]

ՍՈՒՐԲ ՀՌԻՓՍԻՄԷ HRIPHSIMEH
ՑԱՆԿԱԼԻ, ՑԱՆԿԵԱԼ
DESIRABLE

http://en.wikipedia....t._Hripseme.jpg

A correction if I may.
Above Stormig posed this question.

Hripsime comes from Greek? How so?

And I answered. I should have looked further and deeper.

All is said about Hripsime is that is from the Greek and that it means "ankyal/angyal","fallen". I have no idea about its etymology.

I dont remember where I saw that անկեալfallen. I erroneously took it at face value.
Fallen? I was not totally convinced at the time.
As always, our allergy to words and names beginning with the letter R we add H or some other, as in Rome-Hrom etc. The Greek RIPHSIMA becomes H-Ripsimeh.
I had relied on the following
http://armenian.name...=term&d=2&t=581
Note that the Greek PH- PHI- Փ is the same as the Armenian Փ to sound like F.

HRIPSIMEH =The historian Agatangeghos first mentioned this name. According to Yeremia it means "great advice" or "desirable". The coll. form of this name Horomsim makes possible the connection of it with Hrom "Rome"(St. Hripsimeh whose temple is in Echmiadzin was from Rome). It is a spread name. The short forms are Hripsik, Hrip.
ՀՌԻՓՍԻՄԵ =այս անունն առաջին անգամ հիշատակվում է Ագաթանգեղոս պատմիչը: Ըստ Երեմիայի՝ նշանակում է մեծ խորհուրդ կամ ցանկալի: Այն հանգամանքը, որ ժողովուրդը դարձրել է Հոռոմսիմ, հարկադրում է մտածել, որ անպայման Հռոմ բառի հետ է կապվում ինքը՝ Հռիփսիմե կույսը, որի տաճարը ցայսօր կանգուն է Էջմիածնում,
հռոմեացի էր :Հռիփսիմե անունը չափազանց տարածված է ժողովրդի մեջ: Սրա փաղաքշական և կրճատ ձևերն են՝ Հռիփսիկ, Հռիփ:

As above I was never satisfied with that fallen thing, and after long musings and search I found where it came from. Whoever that half baked scholar was , they totally missed and ignored the opening letter Ց in ՑԱՆԿԵԱԼ***=DESIRABLE. Yearnful and dwelt on ԱՆԿԵԱԼ=FALLEN.
Or did they see it here?
http://www.nayiri.co...pageNumber=1441
Where Agathangelos plays with words. Where he says, it may have been from Greek to mean ՆԵՏԵԼto throw, to be felled by an arrow. **
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Do we need better linguists and etymologists?
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** ՆԵՏNet/Arrow
http://img2.wikia.no...row_in-game.jpg
http://upload.wikime...Hayk_statue.JPG
http://www.nayiri.co...dictionaryId=35
http://upload.wikime...a/a0/Hayk_3.JPG
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Bow and Arrow ԱՂԵՂ եւ ՆԵՏIn the Armenian, the BOW is known as ԱՂԵՂ/Aghegh
Why?
Is it because the string of the bow was made of animal intestines ԱՂԻ--ԱՂԻՔ,aghi-(plural) aghiq?***
***See Khash, which beside it being from the legs of animals is also at times prepared from the innards (stomach and intestines) .
Why is the right hand tool in violin called BOW/ԱՂԵՂ?
http://elderly.com/i...15N/VB7-3-4.jpg
***
Ցանկամ տեսնել զիմ Կիլիկիա,
Աշխարհ՝ որ ինձ ետուր արեւ
--
I yearn to see my Kilikia
The Land that gives me Sun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhipsime

[Arpa]

Drat and double drat!!!
I cannot find and extended biography of St. Gayane. Not on the internet nor in print. When 40% of all the women in Yerevan are named so, and the other 60% named.... you guessed it... lilith.
All searches redirect us to the Cathedral in Her name. Gayane, at best is mentioned in passing only as a sidekick of St. Hripsime. as the abbess. mayrapet.
I will get back to Her under another category.
Of course, when books like the Hanragitaran were written Armenia was at a cynical atheistic mode where all pre-bolshevik culture was summarily dismissed as superstition-snapashtum-սնապաշտում, legend araspel, fairytale, fable** and hearsay.
**Like the fables of abraham, moses, noah and david?
Please note that in the Koran all of the above and more along with mohammed, ali and Jesus are called prophets.

Edited by Arpa, 12 October 2014 - 08:36 AM.