Armenian Jazz Musicians (AKA Hey MJ!)
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Posted 12 October 2000 - 09:45 PM
In terms of jazz I really like Duke Ellington (all eras), Miles Davis (all eras), and John Coltrane (before he got too "free"). I'm just starting to discover Satchmo (aka Louis Armstrong).
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 05:22 AM
Jazz in Armenia has started from Konstandin Orbelian's Big Band in 60's, which was called something like "Statet Ansemble of Estrada of Armenia."
In 80’s Jazz had become a popular expression of freedom loving spirit for those under the Soviet regime. There where several well known jazz musicians in Armenia, who made Armenia the most advanced in the former Soviet Union in the area of Jazz. The first recognized one was Tatevik Hovhannesyan – a singer. I think she resides in NY, currently. Then came others.
Armen Martirosian – pianist. Have not heard of him for some 8 years. I think he is in Armenia and active.
Bass – Rouben (have forgotten his last name); nickname contrabassist Rubo. Last time have met him in LA some 7 years ago. Was trying to break into the American jazz elite. Was taking classes from Rony Carter. Another well recognized pianist was David (forgotten the last name). Nickname –Dodo. Had some success here in the US. Had settled in Boston area. Had some success selling his CD’s.
One of the most talented pianists in Armenia was Vahagn (have forgotten his last name too), or Vahagnik, as his friends used to call him. He was the son of the popular violinist Karo Hayrapetian, but due to his parents’ divorce, had a different last name. He was the most natural of all jazz musicians in Armenia. Have no clue where he might be. He was also studying classic piano in Komitas State Musical Conservatory, in Yerevan.
Perhaps the best guitarist was Seth Semerdjyan. He was/is very academic in his style. You could consider him to be professor of jazz He resides in Holywood, and occasionally performs with local jazz bands, and participates in jam sessions.
Probably I have missed some.
This is all I can tell you from my distance, for the moment, regarding Armenian Jazz performers. Have no clue about the new names.
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 08:04 AM
Jazz preferences: Oscar Peterson, Erroll Garner, Keith Jarett, Armstrong, Jimmi Smith.
MJ, do you remember Malkhas? They reconstucted the "Aragast" cafe and now he plays there. They even managed to organise a Jazz festival this summer. It was OK.
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 08:33 AM
Thanks for the reference. Unfortunately, I don't remember Malkhas. Don't remember Donelian, either. Obviously, this is indicative only of my short memory.
Is "Aragast" a covered cafe, now? I have read somewhere there is a Jazz club functioning in Yerevan. Who runs it, and who plays there? I remember some 10 years ago there was and attampt to start a Jazz club near the Hamalir.
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 09:36 AM
Ara Dinkjian has/had his own group Night Ark, but the stuff I'm familiar with is his work with Arto Tuncboyan (I may have the spelling wrong there). You may have heard of Arto. Their songs are more of "world music" than jazz.
I have heard of Armen Donelian through ARP Music (run by the Kanun player Ara Topouzian). I used to buy alot of stuff from Ara's catalog. That's where I first discovered Nune, although the primary focus of his catalog is the "kef time" music of Western Armenia/Anatolia.
Jazz is a recent area of exploration for me. Hence I've started with the cornerstones of traditional American jazz. I can't get enough of Duke Ellington!
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 09:42 AM
In fact, the whites changed the fabric of jazz from 70's and on, I think. It became more academic, more educated, more crystallized.
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 09:47 AM
Keith Jarett was very popular in Yerevan, a dozen of years ago. Is he still popular? I attended one of his concerts with Garry Pea**** and Tony Williams in Chicago, a couple of years ago. He had not changed a bit. The same mix of classic and jazz piano... I loved Pea**** more, though, and Williams has always been my favorit.
P.S. By an ironic coincidence, the forum software doesn't allow me to spell correctly Gary Peakock's name
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 10:29 AM
Originally posted by MJ:
Yeah, Ellington is good. How about Charley Parker, though? He is a good one, too, though was a racist like Miles He used to say that white people can’t understand jazz
Yes, I like Charlie Parker, too.
In fact, the whites changed the fabric of jazz from 70's and on, I think. It became more academic, more educated, more crystallized.
That's funny you say that. You obviously think that's a good thing, where I am exactly opposite. That's the fun thing about musical discussions, we can both be right and both be wrong at the same time. I bought Brubeck's classic, "Time Out" and couldn't get into it because I thought it was too jermag (white) and mathematical.
BTW, Tony Williams is incredible. When I listen to the classic Miles Quintent stuff of the mid 1960's, I love to focus my ears on him.
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 10:54 AM
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Posted 13 October 2000 - 02:00 PM
ok, but not my style.
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Posted 15 October 2000 - 07:16 AM
Now "Aragast" is a first class cafe. It's covered in winters and open-air in summers. They serve good food (Italian, French, Mideterranian). The owner is eigher Grzo or Noushikyan brothers. Not sure, never asked. In summers they have tables all around the front pool. Always lots of foreigners. Malkhas perfectly duplicates Oscar Peterson, so it's good place to relax.
Keith Jarett is still popular in Conservatoria and among the people who understand jazz. I meen the remnants of that people.
I've heard that there are one or two other jazz clubs functioning, but there are rumors that they're performing smth other than jazz. So, I've never been there.
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Posted 17 October 2000 - 01:37 PM
love jazz...armstrong rocks, ella fitzgerald is also one of my faves (you know me, she had to be a woman..lol)
the only armo jazz musician i know is tatevik, thanks to armo tv (my parents aren't big jazz fans, so that part of my armenian musical education is lacking in flavor..lol)
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Posted 17 October 2000 - 03:10 PM
I am also a big fan of Astor Piazzolla, the master instrumental tango composer from Argentina. Tom Jobim, the top name in bossa nova. Al di Meola, Egberto Gismonti, Gary Burton also come to mind.
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Posted 17 October 2000 - 03:43 PM
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Posted 17 October 2000 - 07:23 PM
I am not surprised you like Al di Meola. I also like him. Have you heard his CD with Arto Tuncboyacian (perc/voc)? I was taken by surprise listening to it while driving, when I started to filter out some Armenian mumbling
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Posted 18 October 2000 - 11:11 PM
Artur LOL is short for LaughingOutLoud (I typed it together on purpose, just take the first letters of each word and you get LOL)
so yeah, it denotes laughter, of which I take plenty wherever I go...lol...ayspes asats shat jrikem...lol...I do laugh a lot, don't I? Oh, well, it's the little things in life that make it all worthwhile, I think. The more laughter, the better
gayancho
p.s. sidenote: Mike, why would you address the jazz topic to Martin alone? I found it very amusing
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Posted 18 October 2000 - 11:48 PM
I was fortuned enough to be in her 2 consents in Glendale.
It was 2 or 3 years a go.
I rally loved it.
Tatevik is also known for singing not only in English jazz but Armenian jazz to.
Lost time at the concert shi was singing a song by Gomidas.
It was not only a new experience but also something witch was jazz but at the same time takes you back to your roots.
Tatevik I s in NY / NJ ,
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Posted 18 October 2000 - 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Gayane:
p.s. sidenote: Mike, why would you address the jazz topic to Martin alone? I found it very amusing
Because it intially began in another thread and I wanted him to move over to this one.
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Posted 21 October 2000 - 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Gayane:
Berj, tell them to keep the jazz clubs open, at least 'till I have a chance-- a break in my schedule..lol--to visit..(which could be as early as next summer)
Gayane jan,
Tell whom? Grzo or Dodi Gago? This guys move in town with Jaguars and BMWs escorted by 4-5 Jeeps with russian bodyguards (2m long/1m wide). I wonder if our President has that kind of security. They're the "elite".
If they close the clubs, I'll play for you
MJ, in 1998 summer I went to Sevan. There is a payed beach called Flamenco there and they have this place for performances inside the beach. Constandin Orbelyan's band was there. They played the jazz version of "Shalakho". Man, that was smth. Immagine trumpet improvisation in tact with shalakho rithm.
After some 5 minutes, one of the locals standing besides me said:"Gya, es haykakan en nvagum".
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Posted 22 October 2000 - 08:08 AM
Sorry. Only now I saw your message. Yes, DiMeola and Arto, great combination. I just finished reading the biography of Astor Piazolla. Also Bill Evans, especially the Paris Concert is a must.
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