Abdal Armenian name?
This is the weirdest, and news to me. Beside Karlen, Serge/ Sergey and Arkady.
Anyone here known an Armenian named Abdal? I Haven’t. I have known some with the surname Abdalian, Avdalian, Avdoyan.*****
According to this site Abdal is an Armenian boys’ name.
http://armenian.name/index.php
ABDAL =From Turkish word abdal that means "careless". Later it was changed into avdal and this very variant is usable. The base is Arabic word abdal, meaning "hermit". Nowadays this name is seldom used though the surname Avdalyan is rather spread.
ԱԲԴԱԼ ( Ավդալ) =թուրք. abdal բառից, որ նշանակում է “անհոգ”:Հետագայում դարձել է Ավդալ, որը և տարածված է :Հիմքը արաբ abdal բառն է , որ նշանակում է “դերվիշ” կամ “ճգնավոր”: Այժմ սակավ գործածվող անուն է , թեև Ավդալյան ազգանունը տարածված է:
Yet another sloppy scholarship. It is from furkish? Phooey and nonsnse!!****
It is from Arabic , the first part of the name “abd” Abdallah=Servant of God**
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In our vernacular the gypsies were called abdal, to mean gypsy***, nomad, beggar and at times thief.
I have not anyone named abdal, but there are several families with surnames of Abdalian/Avdalian.
The two famous ones.
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35 §History of Armenia by Father Michael Chamich: from B. C. 2247 to the year of Christ 1780¦. Translated from
the original Armenian, by Johannes Avdal, in two volumes, v. I-II, Calcutta, 1827.
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…is a translation into 17th c. English by a Johannes Avdall (Abdalian?). I found him. His name was Hovannes Avdaleants-Avdalyants (?), born in Shiraz, Iran 1803-1870- died in Calcutta, Member of the Asiatic Society of Bengal printed in Calcutta (Kolkatta)., 1827. AD . I wish I could see the Armenian version that Mikayel wrote, and spelled those names. Of course, as expected Chamich was very much biblio-biased, going all the way of we being the progeny of that clown, foolish buffoon Noah.
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Vahe-Vahian (Armenian: Վահէ-Վահեան), born Sarkis Abdalian (22 December 1908, Gürün Turkey, died in 1998, Beirut, Lebanon), was an Armenian poet, writer, editor, pedagogue and orator.[1][2]
**On the surface the name seems to be exclusive to muslims, in fact many Arabic speaking Christians also use it, even some old Armenians of Aleppo. Sometimes abbreviated to Abdo. See Vartan Abdo of Armenian Radio Hour.
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***Abdal=gypsy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_in_Turkey
**** Where do they find this kind of info -schminfo ?
If all Armenian scholarship schmolarship, culture/kultur is similar to this, then please include me out. Yeah, yeah we know. The name of that rolled grape leaf delicacy is from the Uraratuan.
***** The furks did not have a word for “culture” Kültür
until they discovered Latin.
***** Dr. Levon Avdoyan
http://www.armenianweekly.com/2012/01/24/library-of-congress-exhibition-on-armenian-treasures-to-open-april-19/
Edited by Arpa, 01 November 2013 - 09:25 AM.