Mixed Armenian - WHAT???

Farsi and Urban Tiger,

I'll try to explain to you where this rage is comming from. It is called a Genocide Complex. All those nations who have suffered a Genocide and are in bad economic or political situation now!!! have this complex.
Urban Tiger, in 1939 when Japan invaded China, Japanese killed 100.000 Chinese in Nanjing in two weeks period, and raped 30.000 Chinese women and girls. But at present China is a regional superpower and the Japanese are shivering from thinking about their ballistic missiles. So an average Chinese doesn't have this complex, because he knows that in case of grave necessity China can smash Japan in 10 minutes.
But people like Irish and Armenians, we have that complex. Farsi, to think that IRA terror will stop is very naive. I meen, where the terrororism is comming from. If the Northern Irish have an army they will fight a traditional war. But as soon as they don't have it they'll use all other means, because the English also used every kind of means to eliminate them.
I think that if Armenia was a nuclear power at present, Arman D will never talk like this. We need to be extremists now (again Farsi, I'm not talking about half breed or not half breed).

P.S. People, listen to Sharl Aznavour. I think that he sings about the Genocide in his every song. Farsi there is a famous Irish modern singer, a girl, I don't remember her name but her songs are very strange. I think she also sings about some Genocide.

From what I heard from some of you it looks like people are so stupid!!I hate the way people talk about "half" Armenians!!!Most of them are even more ARMENIAN than the so-called pure ones!!!Yes el makur hay chem, mayres hay chi, heto inch?????Yes aveli shat em hay hamematatc "makur hayeri" het!!!
what you do shows how Armenian you are!It's not your blood!!!!!I hate this whole thing about "kes otarner"!!!This is sick!

Nvard, I think that that's very true. I think that maybe because I am ges odar I have come to appreciate Armenian culture more than some people who are full. You are totally right!

Thanks Berj for your words. They really mean a lot. It shows that you are an openminded person and we need more people like you out there!
Take care.

I agree with fairsteve....

I think you're just all talk, and probably some weeny little rich armenian guy who gets in touch with his roots by acting out all this nationalistic crap. It's guys like you who give Armenian men a bad name, no wonder I chose my asian culture when I was raised...it was losers like you who discouraged me to want to become Armenian and learn about the culture. I'm glad I see this now at my age to see through that crap you call you call your "belief"....

Will someone please translate all that Armeinan? or...do I not want to know?

Hey Oliver,
Let me answer your question.
I don't know why. Maybe because I have an Armenian name and I'm a Yeretsian. I am a lot more proud of being Armenian that's how I feel.
Respect.

Hello people. Sorry I didn't come for a while.

First I want to thank Lauren for supporting me and I am very happy you didn't become "American". We will build the New Armenia together.
Berj, shad shad shenorhagal em. I think that if I show a pure Armenian how I love my Armenian culture, how I know about my Armenian culture and how I am ready to die for my nation (Armenia) he will accept me and respect me. It's my case, I am very well accepted in the Montreal community. I think we should STOP mixing today we're not enough in number to just MIX.
And Arman. Good. We need extremists like you who will prevent our culture and important issues from being forgotten. And OLIVER, why not make the Genocide run our life? It's better than ***, cars, rugs, etc. I will die to make my childrens life better in Armenia and make my grand-childrens life even better that would be the greatest heritage I could leave them. And Oliver, you really think I ACT UP my nationalistic pride? Don't say that. I don't fake this unlike you, I read a lot on Armenian issues and update myself so I get enough knowledge to actually help Armenia. Some people say "Why don't you go with the Armenian flag in the streets while you're at it?" HEY! I WILL!!! I will not stay silent. Yes I will represent the RED, the BLUE and the ORANGE. I am feeling more and more ready to suffer. Am I strong enough? I'll see. But I have the will! If I'm not strong enough I'll make myself stronger and stronger.

Oliver, you say you chose your Chinese side? Well so be it. You proved my theory. You have to choose. And I don't really care wheather you choose your children to be Armenian or Chinese, that's up to you but at least they will be real Chinese and you would have helped your people. You understand?

Thank you!

To Raffi

I did not like the way you spoke to Urban Tiger, it bordered on rude, which is unlike you who are usually so polite. Is Arman so good that he attacks me? He is a narrow minded loser who ultimately looks down on all half Armenians including you. Remember, that no matter how many times you sing "Yerevan darstav im erebuni" and wave the Armenian flag, the "pure Armenians" will never, never accept you as fully Armenian. Please realize that. I know too well from experience. Only today, at a family gathering, my aunt boasted of having "pure Armenian" children, then shot a glance at me,her "mongrel" nephew even though her son hardly speaks a word of Armenian and knows nothing of his culture. Maybe you look more Armenian and your last name is Armenian, so it may be easier for you than me, but someday you will realize that Armenian is only a part of who you are.

I'm sorry for confusion, but my last post was directed towards ARMAN D...

BERJ...

A very insightful post...I can see how you're not trigger happy like most people when it comes to issues like these.
In response to your post about the Genocide complex, I don't think it's irrelevant if I appear not to know the origin of most of the rage you speak of concerning the genocide, I mean, I too have pain that in some ways relates to most of you.
All of you never witnessed the mass genocide of Armenia, and thank goodness you didn't, but if you did you would certainly lead a tragic consciousness throughout life. I may be half chinese, and chose in my youth to follow it as a culture, but I still hold pain against it.
Remember the Tianemen Massacre? Yes, you do, I'm sure, Well, I was there in Beijing when it happened, not more then 5 blocks away from the square itself, yes I saw the causualties and the deaths, the screaming and yelling, the gunfires. Did you know there was so much blood stained on the square they had to use tar to cover it up so that they could hide it from the rest of the world? it's true I've seen and stepped upon those many patches across the square.
As my father drove me to be evacuated, mass swarms of people surrounded the car, banging on the windows to get in, away from the troops who had switched from bruising rubber bullets to deadly live ammunition.
My best friends were shot at, tanks ripped through their neighborhood, harassed, questioned. My father's friend and also journalist Jan Wong was there, her book Red China Blues, details a "thank-you" from my father...go check it out..my last name is his last name...

So as you can see I know pain, I've stared at it in the face, but I've learned to get through it, and live on without it judging everything someone tells me about china or whatnot. At least you guys don't have a first hand experience with the genocide...

All this to say that even if the average chinese doesn't have rage against Japan, doesn't mean they can't have rage directed somewhere else...

Respect

P.S. RAFFI Y...It's late for me here...don't worry..I'll have a response for you
Fairsteve...thanks for the support my fellow half armenian

Ni hao Cheng shi Lao hu. Wo ji de Tian an men guang chang.
Some say Tiananmen was the crash of democracy, the others say it prevented China from disintegration. At least, I would have never supported U-er Kaisi (Uighur-Turik-Muslim). Remember why your ancestors built the Great Wall? Ha? Good!
This kind of things happen even in the so called democracies. For example, the crash of student movement in the Columbia University (I not sure about the name of university) during the Vietnam War.
Yes Urban Tiger, you know pain, but are you afraid of Chinese being assimilated or elliminated. I bet you're laughing now. If US strikes all it's nuclear arsenal on China, there will be another 500.000.000 Chinese left.
Armenians are 6-7 mln, of which only 3 mln live in the Republic of Armenia. And the population is declining now. Sometimes I ask myself "Are they leaving Armenia because of economic hardships?". No, No, Noooooo!!! They are leaving beacause of the fear of another Genocide. Armenians lived with the fear of ellimination starting from 15-th century. That's deep in our consciousness. Like genetic code.
My grand-grandfather was a 5 year old boy in 1915. He and his 17 year old sister hid under the corpses of their 18 member family killed by the turks (Yes, Farsi, not the kurds, but the turkish regular army). His sister forced him to drink the blood of their family members not to die from hunger. But because corpses were rottening they got sick. Then a kurd family found them, and they moved to the north until they met the advancing Russian Army.
Have I faced the Genocide? Not yet, but I'm living through it every second.

BERJ....


You say the crash of democracy?? Uh...I'm hoping that was a typo, cause China is a communist country, if the T. Square Massacre was anything, it was more of a socialist-communist upbringing, to strike fear in its people. They didn't even start with democracy, therefore democracy could not have crashed...

They built the great wall to repel invaders who were in constant war with China...I don't see your point...please explain.

And, no I am not concerned that they will be assimalated or eliminated, but that shouldn't matter, it's the principle...

I find it interesting about which perspective you took, mainly upon the consequences, yes, even if the states unleased mayhem, many Chinese would be left, and yes, if something happened to Armenia, there would be very small survivors left, however they do not contrast! This isn't about how many are left...it's about how many were killed! This is how they would be similar, nevertheless people died, and that should be of greater concern.

Thanks

P.S How do you integrate quotes of other people in the text like that?