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#1 Harut

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 12:15 PM



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Posted 17 March 2005 - 12:25 PM

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 05:55 PM

what does the apple symbolize?! 1eye.gif Depends in wich context...but what does it traditionally stand for?

Edited by koko, 17 March 2005 - 05:59 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2005 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (koko @ Mar 18 2005, 03:55 AM)
what does the apple symbolize?!  1eye.gif Depends in wich context...but what does it traditionally stand for?



It symbolizes virginity. I think the armenian tradition is that when a girl gets married, if she's a virgin the next day after the wedding night the husband's family sends a red apple to the girl's parents to tell them they're pleased that the girl is a virgin? Ok now I'm confused lol

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Posted 25 March 2005 - 04:51 PM

This tradition died somewhere in 18th century along with disappearance of the Noble Knights. tongue.gif

Seriously though, this tradition was popular not only among Armenians, but also Greeks, Macedonians, Italians, etc.. with some variants. For example in Macedonia on the next day the newly wed should show the "blood stains" over the sheet.
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE (CheekY @ Mar 25 2005, 04:17 PM)
It symbolizes virginity. I think the armenian tradition is that when a girl gets married, if she's a virgin the next day after the wedding night the husband's family sends a red apple to the girl's parents to tell them they're pleased that the girl is a virgin? Ok now I'm confused lol


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Posted 25 March 2005 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (Harut @ Mar 17 2005, 11:15 AM)




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Posted 25 March 2005 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (MosJan @ Mar 25 2005, 05:03 PM)
HAorut es  topic@ or  batsel es  ba ova  Tirutyun anelu  motz.gif

du Movses jan, ba ov?

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Posted 25 March 2005 - 09:34 PM

QUOTE (CheekY @ Mar 25 2005, 02:17 PM)
It symbolizes virginity. I think the armenian tradition is that when a girl gets married, if she's a virgin the next day after the wedding night the husband's family sends a red apple to the girl's parents to tell them they're pleased that the girl is a virgin? Ok now I'm confused lol


What if they send a "toshmats" green apple? what does that mean?

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Posted 26 March 2005 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (ExtraHye @ Mar 25 2005, 07:24 PM)
du Movses jan, ba ov?


hmm - dzer kartsiqov yes HArouti KArmir X@ndzori pahapann em ??



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Posted 26 March 2005 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (Azat @ Mar 25 2005, 08:34 PM)
What if they send a "toshmats" green apple?  what does that mean?



es verjers mi qich poxvela asum en shaterin batsy karmir xndzorits bavakanin Baanan en ugharkum




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yes iys HArtsin iyspes em verabervum
yete Pahpanelu es traditsyan: uremn pahpani

yete ches pahpanelu: uremn Azniv !! yegir qo apaga Amusnu het I s@kzbane !!!
yev yerbeq el mi vatabani traditsyan : yev kam poshmani kes janaparhits yev portsy "veranoroqel" yev tradisyonali tek antsnel wink.gif


yerku or araj H1 Tv HAyastani tsragrum nuyn harts kar "kamir xndzor"
yev mi kin 25~27 tarekan - asum er vro ir 22rd taredarstin inq@ voroshel e yev vorpes n@ver "t@rvel" gyughatsy irenits 10 + tari mets mi t@ramardu. dranist heto mek urishi het e amusnatsel - um asel e irakanutyun@ sakayn harsaniqi hajord or@ "apatsuyts" chunenalu patjarov amusnu tnetsiq yern durs en hanel ....

hima iys kin@ bavakanin l@kti dzevov bazmats athorin q@nnadatum er HAykakan traditsyan portsum apatsutsel et sxal e - sxal en nayev ir amusnu barekamner ov iren chen @endhunel - yev nayev asum er te sa 21 DAR'n e petq e Yevorpayi pes mtatsel .....


MI yeritasard iren iyspe s patasxanets - yerb yevropa - Amsterdam KAyaran es ijnum - t@ghamardu Arandami Ardzan en kangetrel - isk mer KAyaranum der Sasuntsy DAvitsn e...



i vercho te cheq uzzum mi heteveq - sakayn urishnerin el mi x@raxuseq
amen Voq togh inq@ voroshi

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 03:15 AM

This thread reminded me of a couple of jokes but I will only mention one wink.gif

Mi aghjik, harsaniqi hajord or@, "ozhit@" shalakats veradarnum e tun. Baki t@ghaner@ pati tak "p@p@zats en linum"
-- Aghjiiiiiiiiiii? Karmir xndzord es berel?
-- Hoghem dzer glux@ !!! Toghetsiq vor karmri? Xak xak poketsiq keraq.


Lav mi hat el.


Robert Kocharyani t@ghan amusnanum e. Hajord or@ patrastvum en karmir xndzor tanelu.
-- Vor sortits tanenq Robert jan?
-- Inch sort uzum a lini, menak Demirjyan ch@lini.



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BTW: This tradition continues among some people, but instead of red apples they take red flowers.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 12:26 AM

Mi anshnork anekdot el es patmem:
harsaniki hajord or@ harevani txan vazelov galis e eritasardneri tun, txayi mor@ te: :Ed jisht a vor dzer hars@ txa a?" "Vonc te txa a balik jan,?" " Ba asum en axjik chi" .

Tradiciayi veraberyal, ayn bolorovin el chi mnacel 18 darum, hiam el shater@ spasum en ev tanum en karmir xndzor. Isk inchu che? Xndzoric vnas chka. tongue.gif

Isk ete lurj, karcum em vor tradicia e, piti pahpanvi, ete nuynisk pokr inch intim e:) Chnayac hasnum enk cayrahexutytan naev erbemn, erb toxnum enk vor "barekamutyun@" xarnvi ev xekavari mer kyank@ erbemn voch eritasardneri ogtin.

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 11:36 AM

What does it mean when the brides family sends a cocktail wiener to the grooms family? confused.gif

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 11:52 AM

Harsaniqi hajort or@ txaye koxmits mi vagon karmir xndzor e gnum axchka tun
axchka mayr@ tesnume asume


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Posted 02 April 2005 - 12:18 PM

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (MosJan @ Apr 2 2005, 10:18 AM)
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Posted 02 April 2005 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (Edward @ Apr 2 2005, 11:20 AM)
Ba vor Bann aness? smile.gif



uremn mi patmi

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 12:25 PM

meki Axchik@ - Archik chi linum - bayst pit psakvi - gnumen gyuqhi Shamami mot@ - es asuam axchik jan mi shish Yod verkal het@T - en banits heto yerb mard@t k@qni - et yod@ teghashori mijum@ k@tapes - aravot - mardrd@t te harstni kases anhrajesht er Arun @ kangnatsnelu hamar

es axchka Mern el tun @yod chi unenum - Zilyonka a dnum het@

Amusnutyan hajord or@ aravot pesan vera kenum - tesnum teghashor Kanach guyna - tanuma mor@ tsuyts talis - mern asuma - Qa VAyyy Xerj H@rrexu Leghin es patrel Tnashen

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 07:26 PM

Norapsak zuyg@ amusnutyan yerkrod or@ dataranov bazhanvum e.
Datavor@ pesatsuin hartsnum e -
-- Inchu es uzum bazhanvel?
-- Vorovhetev aghjik cher.
-- E, arajin or@ bazhanveir !!!
-- Arajin or@ aghjik er.

Edited by Sulamita, 02 April 2005 - 07:27 PM.





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