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[Harut]

LOL I must have missed that one

http://hyeforum.com/...ndpost&p=107951

[vava]

http://hyeforum.com/...ndpost&p=107951

Ok. so I have a bad memory. Maybe I should quot smokin....

Edited by vava, 29 September 2005 - 09:06 AM.

[Sip]

Yah - but the scenarios Sip has describes would be very very rare. It's not easy to snif packets and put together a coherent  series enough to get a username and password.

I think in the most part it's safe - but WEP protection is much better.

Vava, sniffing wireless packets in an open network is TRIVIAL. Heck Ethereal will even break down the packets for you and let you see everything from mac address and source/dest IP to protocol info and data! So not only do you get to see what websites someone is surfing, you can also see what it is they are actually looking at without much effort.

Now granted someone who has trouble using Ms Word won't figure this out ... but it is part of homework #1 in my intro to networking class The other caveat is sometimes ethereal has problems in windows and some NICs so being a linux user also helps in making it easier. I'd say an above average teen with enough free time and an internet connection (duh!) could easily figure all this out on her own.

But I agree with you that sniffing wired traffic from wireless is not that easy. Also, although WEP can be broken, it is definitely better than nothing. But for that, you can take a look at airsnort.

Edited by Sip, 29 September 2005 - 02:08 PM.

[Azat]

There was a guy in LAX that they caught recently who would buy a ticket to allow him to get into the terminal area. he would get his signal from SB and had setup another wireless router and people would login to the net using his connection thinking they were getting access via some legit company and they would input their credit card number and such. and after they were gone he would use their credit card numbers for thousands of dollars. Pretty cool and smart guy I would say.

[Sip]

That is scrool! It's scary and cool at the same time.

[Bakersfieldian]

A friend and former FDIC enforcer (the guy who sent Charles Keating to prison) picked up a laptop 2 days ago.

The first thing I showed him was how to log on to all of that "free" pipe contaminating his living space.

It turns out he had 4 different networks he could log on from his living room.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have helped build an almost seamless network in Irvine with their home and business routers.

[Harut]

i'm in heaven...

the upload function doesn't work

Edited by Harut, 02 October 2005 - 05:29 PM.

[Harut]

http://www.harut.net/etc/hf/wlnet1.jpg
http://www.harut.net/etc/hf/wlnet2.jpg

6 wireless networks were i'm sitting now... and only 1 of them is encrypted... in fact, 3 of them are hotel networks, which after agreeing to some terms, let you use the network for free...

[hytga]

harut i have the same wireless adapter. (Intel pro wireless).
does it cause your laptop to come out of stand by for no reason? (even when the hardware switch is turned off)

[Harut]

my notebook has died on me a week ago... i've sent it back to dell for repair... this is my couse's notebook i'm using (fujitsu)... no such thing has happened so far...
actually, i'm impressed by the wireless hardware performance... this thing catches wireless signals like magnet... my dell (actually, external netgear wireless network adapter) had never detected the neighbor's network that i was talking at the beginning... but this thing connects to it with medium speed...

[vava]

I have found that Dell makes great desktops - but their laptops are only so-so.
The little Toshiba i've been using lately is rock solid.