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Posted 07 September 2000 - 05:01 AM

Barev Sulamita,

yes dialects are great.
BTW you have an interesting background. Was your father from those 20000 Bäxtyari (Bakhtiari south-west of Esfahan)Armenians, who after the WWII were moved by the Russians to Hayastan. Ask him if the villigaes, kala mamuka, Armand and Vanak, and also dehagan, urjen, ghamishli, larche, kare, pude are still known by him. Kala Mamuka is in the recent years without poulation, but Armand is still an Armenian village
Also my ancestoral town is in that region, when I see an Armenian from that region we feel solidarity. When I was in Esfahan, I went to a bookshop, there was an Armenian oldman, I talked to a relative in my local dialect and that old Armenian gentleman, began to talk with us in our dialect, I asked him how it came, he said he was originaly from Kala Mamuka, but later on was moved to Esfahan, he said that Kala Mamuka is now totally left without any inhabitants
then I asked him some question about our region, which I allways wanted to know, then we went to his grand children who were in our age, we all agreed that there should have large number of Armenian communities again, if there are more facilities and economic stimulation, and enough water for agriculture, the villagers will come back. We agreed that our region is and will allways be a multicultural region. Armenians, Kashkai's, Bäxtyari persians, and Georgians are all belong and are welcome to our region
So maybe your father is also from us

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Posted 08 September 2000 - 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by Iranyar:
Was your father from those 20000 Bäxtyari (Bakhtiari south-west of Esfahan)Armenians, who after the WWII were moved by the Russians to Hayastan.

As far as I know my dad was born in Iran and I am not sure where they were before moving there. That makes me think - I should ask him one of these days

A

PS. I would like to make a post-comment to what I said. I DO love Armenian in all it's forms, except when its being altered in brutal ways. Our language is beautiful when spoken properly.

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Posted 08 September 2000 - 05:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sulamita:
As far as I know my dad was born in Iran and I am not sure where they were before moving there. That makes me think - I should ask him one of these days

A

PS. I would like to make a post-comment to what I said. I DO love Armenian in all it's forms, except when its being altered in brutal ways. Our language is beautiful when spoken properly.




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Posted 15 September 2000 - 02:41 PM

Sulamita, have you asked your father about the region he comes from?

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Posted 15 September 2000 - 06:09 PM

Iranyar
I guess she's in Armenia now. Haven't heard from her for a while.

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Posted 15 September 2000 - 06:22 PM

Iranyar, are you familiar with these places: Akhore Bala, Sibak, Djadjur, Sangespid, Shurushkan. Do you know person called Hagi Heydar?

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Posted 16 September 2000 - 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Ararat:
Iranyar, are you familiar with these places: Akhore Bala, Sibak, Djadjur, Sangespid, Shurushkan. Do you know person called Hagi Heydar?

barev Ararat

So you are familiar with the Georgians of Iran
I bet you are Fereydani Armenian, wright?
me vitsi sad axorebala da sibak arian, isini fereydunshahris farmandarishi arian, magram ar vitsi sad Jajur, sangespid da shurushkan arian. vinaa Haji Heydar, Ghevtis saxelshi?

sorry for who didn't understood Georgian.

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Posted 21 September 2000 - 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Ararat:
Nvard you did fail to answer to last one. I'm gonna call you half Loretsi LOL

The correct answer is:
- Varpet kshi tsnndatun
- Knanonts~~?

BTW, Ararat,Tell me where you're from...lol
I will find a good joke..

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Posted 22 September 2000 - 05:44 AM

Dear Nvard
I was born in Tehran, then moved to Armenia (Abovian, near Yerevan).
Say whatever you want (hla vor hamardzakves )
The one "babam~ her es kaydzi avel@... , Papan-maman gortsum en?" is getting boring. Think new one, and answer to this one
-Tgherk@ football en khaghum.
-...

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Posted 22 September 2000 - 05:56 AM

Iranyar (Enshalla Salom't bashi)
No I am not Fereydani, I was born in Tehran, but my ancestors were from Arak. But we have Fereydani (Peria) Armenian neighbors.
And sorry, I don't understand Georgian (except Gamar Joba, Khvanchkara, Kindz Marauli ).
What is interesting, Armenian great poet Hovhanes Tumanyan (countryman of Nvard) has poem about Fereydan, called "Tagavorn u charchin" ("Berel e dzez azat Peria, Achkn el lav misht dzez vra").
Hamishe piruz (be ma'nie Orupayi, n'a be ma'nie Iruni )

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Posted 23 September 2000 - 01:21 AM

Barev Ararat,

Where you have Freydani Armenian neighbours? As I know they are now for big part in Esfahan (& shahin shahr) not in Fereydan itself.
I can't define myself as Fereydani either, I am from more southwards. I've tried ti find my original ancestoral town "chehraz"(sounds very caucasian) it might have been in Fereydan, in Baxtyari or in Pars, but nothing of it has remaind

I said in Georgian I know axore bala and sibak they are in Ferydunshahr farmandari (farmandari=+ - province) but Jajur and shurushkan don't know. Who in Gods'name is haji heydar?

BTW we in Iran, don't use Gamarjoba, and as I know axore bala was the name of Fereydunshahr, when it was a little town. Sibak is a mountaineous little town (nver been there)!

Piruz bashi Ararat, & dämët gärm

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