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[Arpa]

Please don't go my me. I am cognizant of many cultures, not excluding Armenian, Arabic, Furkish and... others.
Firstly.
Dear RF, welcome to our family, bari ekar, ahlan feek. Correct me please. Am I getting ahead of myself assuming that “ahlan was sahlan” stands for “ahl/nation” and “sahl” stands for “easy”? I.e. meaning - “whoever you are, whatever your ethnicity, your arrival is sahl/easy/welcome”??
See my editorial below.
Remain Faithful;

In Arabic it is Armeeenya or ارمينيا
When they want to say the Armenian State/goverment, they say al-Dawla el-Armaniyah or الدولة الارمنية
If an Armenian guy is going to tell an Arab: "I am Armenian", he'd say: Ana Armani or انا ارمني
If an Armenian girl is going to tell an Arab: "I am Armenian", she'd say: Ana Armaniyeh or انا ارمنية
Also, in some arab coutries there are Armenian ministers. So the Arab journalists, in order differentiate an Armenian Minister from Armenia and a local Armenian Minister, they have added the vowel "ee". So the Armenian Minister from Armenia is called: al-Wazeer al-Armeeni, while the local Armenian Minister is called: al-Wazeer al-Armani

Johann;

Բարեւ հաւատացեալ բարեկամս՝
Ալ-վազիր ալարմանի կը նշանակէ հայ նախարար, մինչ ալ-վազիր ալարմինի կը նշանակէ ՀԱՅԱՍՏԱՆՑԻ նախարար: Չեմ հակասեր այլ կերկրորդեմ ըսածդ, յստակեցնելով, որ արմանի=հայ, մինչ արմինի=հայաստանցի կը նշանակէ:
Վերոյիշեալ մանրամասնութիւնը, որքանով կարեւոր է մարդկութեան առաջընթացի համար, թող ուրիշները որոշեն…

You both open a very interesting and thought provoking subject. That is, Ethnicity v Citizenship.
“Armani/Ermeni/Armenian/Hye/Hay” may all be generic terms, meaning ethnicity, no matter where one may live, no matter what citizenship, all the way from an Armenian living and a citizen of Afghanistan or Zululand (once again, the gamut of the alphabet), it takes those half savage(?) and backward(?) Arabic speaking people to make a distinction. While as the generic “Armani/Eremeni” simply means an ”ethnic Armenian”, more specifically “armeeni” comes to mean a “citizen of Armeenia/Ermenia/Ermeniya”. It is gratifying that the Arabs/Syrians don’t call the citizens of Armenia “armanistani/ermenistani”, and instead use the Europeanized version, “armaee-ieen.
Editorial.
Johann and Remain Faithful. We love both of you, as you seem to know quite a bit about our culture. It is no secret that I have an allergy to ten mile long Armenian words and (nick)names. The reason why I have chosen four letters as my nickname, just as many of our correspondents. I take pride in having Sip amend his screen name from “Seapahn” and more. Is it too brash and forward of me to suggest that you guys/gals review your screen names to like “(J)Ohan” and or “Faith”, or RF, (limited for 3-5 letters as Vava and others have) so we can address you without having to type a whole mile long?
Yes, yes. I know. Even though I was born before hamburger and pizza, but I have the distinct privilege of living in this era of “fast food” ) we will come to that under another topic. Why is that an Aristakes in Yerevan wants to be known as “Aris” yet we in the Diaspora insist to be known as Yeghiazar/Martyros Takhtabokboynuburukian.

[Johannes]

Նմանապէս ես ... եւ երբ քո անունը տեսնեմ, կը փորձեմ ընթերցել:

Թէ անուն փոխելու հնարքը բացատրէիք, թերեւս Հով ընէի:

Ամենայն դէպս, սա (Յովհաննէս) իմ պաշտօնական անունն է, ամէն ոք զիս Հովիկ կը կոչէ, իսկ կարգ մը արաբներ վանէս وانيس : Պիտի գրէի, որ մեր «արման» անունը ասիական իսկ «արմէն» անունը եւրոպական արտասանութիւն է:

[RemainFaithful]

Thank you Arpa for welcoming me in different languages. You were correct in the Arabic greetings of Ahla_wa_Sahla.

Arpa, you can call me RF, if it relieves of your long-name allergy.

However, if you ask me, reading your name didn't help me in knowing what Arpa's root is. Was it Arpouhi, Arpineh, Arpi? I said it can't be Arpineh, because Arpi is the short name for Arpineh. Anyhow, as for Sip, I would have never guessed that it was the short name for Sipan. Somehow people do not have have a problem with remembering or writing "Schwarzeneger". Moreover, I know a reporter who is Armenian, who insists that his last name be pronounced and written in full. I agree with this Armenian reporter, but for the internet I never mind.

RF

[Yervant1]

Hi, Digin Arpa

[Takoush]

Faithful:

Arpa is a man. He is a mature man and certainly not a female; especially when he dreams often enough times of his 70 virgins.

[Takoush]

So Arpa what do you suggest to do with my name? Like Ed has called me "Takoush" lately?
To rename myself as Takoush.

Edited by Anahid Takouhi, 17 November 2006 - 07:53 PM.

[Boghos]

Yervant is Hagop Baronian reincarnate.
Yervantig, would you sign my copy of Medzabadiv Mouratsganer?

[Yervant1]

Yervant is Hagop Baronian reincarnate.
Yervantig, would you sign my copy of Medzabadiv Mouratsganer?

This month I'm promoting and signing "Baghdasar Aghpar".

Edited by Yervant1, 18 November 2006 - 08:36 AM.

[Arpa]

This month I'm promoting and signing "Baghdasar Aghpar".

No,No!!
This week I am signing the Metsapativ Mouratskanner, The Horobale Beggars.
Do you think the era is over?
Why do some assume we are all idiotic diasporans who know nothing but that we became Chrsitians in 301 AD?
During one of my stays in Yerevan I was sitting at the sidewalk café at the then Hotel Hotel (Mariott), when, among others, a young man, clean shaven and clad in suit approached me, he may have been an “Armenian Jew”, who knows? hHe had a portfolio, he pulled out a manuscript and began to read. I forget how he had begun his theses until he, assuming that I was one of those idiotic, know nothing but our “Christian/Yahoodi” diasporas proceeded d to show what he had written. All I had to see was his mention of Noah, Moses and David. I burst. I exploded. I tried to engage him in a debate as to how Noah, Moses and David had anything to do with our heritage. He proceeded to argue that, we as “Christian “Armenians , once again assuming that I was one of those diaspiran “idiots “ who know nothing about our heritage except Loussavorich and his co-darkeners.
I told him, in as many different unmentinable words to get the F**** off my table. He would not take a NO as an answer until the manager at the café he knew him) came over and told him to get the f*** off my table.
Honorable Beggars?
I will buy whatever they may have to offer. Abraham, Noah, Moses, David?
No. Thank you!
There is another country for them. It is not in Yerevan.
Hey you guys! If you think this isAnti-S, consider that there are more than a Billion Arabic speaking people who claim to be Semites.

Edited by Arpa, 18 November 2006 - 09:54 AM.

[Yervant1]

No,No!!
This week I am signing the Metsapativ Mouratskanner, The Horobale Beggars.
Do you think the era is over?
Why do some assume we are all idiotic diasporans who know nothing but that we became Chrsitians in 301 AD?
During one of my stays in Yerevan I was sitting at the sidewalk café at the then Hotel Hotel (Mariott), when, among others, a young man, clean shaven and clad in suit approached me, he may have been an “Armenian Jew”, who knows? hHe had a portfolio, he pulled out a manuscript and began to read. I forget how he had begun his theses until he, assuming that I was one of those idiotic, know nothing but our “Christian/Yahoodi” diasporas proceeded d to show what he had written. All I had to see was his mention of Noah, Moses and David. I burst. I exploded. I tried to engage him in a debate as to how Noah, Moses and David had anything to do with our heritage. He proceeded to argue that, we as “Christian “Armenians , once again assuming that I was one of those diaspiran “idiots “ who know nothing about our heritage except Loussavorich and his co-darkeners.
I told him, in as many different unmentinable words to get the F**** off my table. He would not take a NO as an answer until the manager at the café he knew him) came over and told him to get the f*** off my table.
Honorable Beggars?
I will buy whatever they may have to offer. Abraham, Noah, Moses, David?
No. Thank you!
There is another country for them. It is not in Yerevan.
Hey you guys! If you think this isAnti-S, consider that there are more than a Billion Arabic speaking people who claim to be Semites.

Is this Metsapativ Mouratskanner? Or Havana gila?

[yerevanforeigner6]

We call Armenia in Hungarian Örményország

[Johannes]

Thank you Brigi.
This name was the last which we did not mention.

[dianjan]

Very interesting stuff Nvard. I had no idea !!!

But I have to say I really like the Iranian version ... it sorta gives us "class". Armani ... I am Armani ... I wear Armani glasses ... I have Armani shoes .... Very very cool <img border="0" alt="[cool]" title="" src="smilies/cool.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[smokin]" title="" src="smilies/smokin.gif" />

What are you? Oh, I am Armani. <img border="0" alt="[walkingcool]" title="" src="smilies/walkingcool.gif" />

What kind of Jeans are those?! Oh, those are Armani. <img border="0" alt="[walkingcool]" title="" src="smilies/walkingcool.gif" />

I just can't get enough ... I feel so cool <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

Sip, you're funny
So, how's the Armani doing??