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#1 Boghos

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Posted 14 November 2002 - 05:47 AM

Interesting word that can be decomposed in different ways...

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Posted 14 November 2002 - 09:39 AM

What do you mean? Like mitk, mtatsel, mtavor? Or do you mean something else?

Or do you mean "meda vor a ka(n)"? I don't know if this will be tolerated on HF though.

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[ November 14, 2002, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: nairi ]

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Posted 14 November 2002 - 09:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by nairi:
What do you mean? Like mitk, mtatsel, mtavor? Or do you mean something else?

Or do you mean "meda vor a ka(n)"? I don't know if this will be tolerated on HF though.

Nairi

I had thought of a few things: semantics and ethymology. But I think you have made an interesting contribution, nevertheless.

[ November 18, 2002, 04:27 AM: Message edited by: Boghos ]

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Posted 14 November 2002 - 02:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nairi:
... Or do you mean "meda vor a ka(n)"? I don't know if this will be tolerated on HF though....

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It also could have some "satanic" meanings too: "na kar, ov adem?"

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Posted 17 November 2002 - 03:19 PM

Boghos, what have you found so far? All I can come up with is that it may be a Latin derivation of "meditatio", but I'm probably wrong.

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Posted 17 November 2002 - 04:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Boghos:
quote:
Originally posted by nairi:
What do you mean? Like mitk, mtatsel, mtavor? Or do you mean something else?

Or do you mean "meda vor a ka(n)"? I don't know if this will be tolerated on HF though.

Nairi

I had thought of a few things: semantics and ethymology. But I think you have made an interestig contribution, nevertheless.
Quite!
(A surprise and a quiz at the end).
Mtavorakan. Mindful, wise, intellectual, a thinking person.
A native Armenian word, "mit" from the root of proto-IE "med". It is seldom used in the singular form but it pervades into many uses. More commonly seen as "mitq" (plural of "mit"). The original meaning is equally used to mean thought, as well as "hog" as in "hogal" or "hog tanel" to mind a matter or person, i.e to be mindful, and "khnamq" (care). By now it would be evident that we are not alone to use the root word of "med". It can be traced all thr way to the English "mind" but it is more readily recognized in words like "med"itate, "med"itation etc. When we use the term "mtavorakan" we are in fact using part of the phrase. "mtavor" would probably be enough to mean "intellectual". Mtavorakan is part of the phrase like "mtavorakan gortzuneyutyun", i.e. "inetellectual activity". But then again, even in the English just like in the Armenian "intellectual" which is in fact an adjective has ended up being used as a noun.

Here is the surprise. The word medicine as in the art of healing is based on the same root, as in the past a "medicus" meant a wise and thoughtful person hence a physician.

Now the quiz.
What word do the Lebanese use to describe a doctor of medicine, a physician? And what does it really mean?

A bonus. The word doctor is from the Latin "docere" that means "to teach".

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Posted 18 November 2002 - 06:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Arpa:
[QUOTE]Now the quiz.
What word do the Lebanese use to describe a doctor of medicine, a physician? And what does it really mean?

A bonus. The word doctor is from the Latin "docere" that means "to teach".

Medocerus? I have no idea, but I am interested.

Thanks for the info. I'm wondering, does "imanal" also belong to this list?

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Posted 18 November 2002 - 04:21 PM

Arpha jan shnorhakal em te che arden mtatsum eyi te et MtaVorAkan@ urish bana nshanakum - ba Amot ches anum Boghos jan es inch baner es asum

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 11:48 AM

The Anglo-Latin word for "mtavorakan" is as some define a suppository- Inuendo, as in "in you went O" :P :goof: :jerry:

Edited by Arpa, 12 March 2011 - 11:57 AM.





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