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[PiggyWiggy]

That is just it!

I just took a while to read several books about AG.

And it all seemed clear, not only that, but i read history books on the subject.

I have just come out of reading. And want to discuss it with Armenians.

But it seems you yourselves are learning half the truth.

[MosJan]

As am I!

Do I have no right to judge my own people?

yes you can judge your own people, son can the people judge you.
in this case we can take some time and see if we can correct you before judging you...

[PiggyWiggy]

Why do I need to be corrected?

On what exactly.

[Armo77]

Piggy.. one question for you before I leave for the night....

Do you have ANY positive things to say about Armenians?

[PiggyWiggy]

Yes!

3500 years and still going strong!

Plus, there have been many great Armenians. Just not ones anyone knows.

[Armat]

That is just it!

I just took a while to read several books about AG.

And it all seemed clear, not only that, but i read history books on the subject.

I have just come out of reading. And want to discuss it with Armenians.

But it seems you yourselves are learning half the truth.

Heik please tell us the titles of the books you read. One is probably
The Banality of Indifference: Zionism and the Armenian Genocide by Yair Auron right?

[PiggyWiggy]

No I have not read that...

But it is on my to read list...

I read that 40 Days of Musa Dagh. and Forgotten Fire...

and the other ones...ill find right now...

[MosJan]

this is all that you have to say for our nation ???

[Armat]

No I have not read that...

But it is on my to read list...

I read that 40 Days of Musa Dagh. and Forgotten Fire...

and the other ones...ill find right now...

Heik you got busted!!!Don't go to gogol looking for titles

[PiggyWiggy]

Alright you caught me Lol.

You are good, Armat.

MosJan, Well that was in brief. Because he is going to sleep.

Good night Armo! Have a great nights sleep.

[Shahumyan]

The funny thing is Armenia is LESS independent than pre-1991, not so much funny, sickening

Now we have to dance to the tune of the EU, USA capitalists, Russian capitalists, the IMF, WTO, Iranian capitalists (eg having to give back Iranians to Iran if they commit a crime in Armenia) and worst of all is the people having to dance to the tune of the Armenian capitalists

Had the dashnaks been there instead of the communists Armenia would have been crushed, and even if it didnt, the state of Armenia would be like one big village

[PiggyWiggy]

Shahumyan.

Lol.

I know what you are saying.

Armenia would not exist if the Dashnaks had their way, I believe they would have rather surrendered to the Turkish forces rather than become Communist.

Not realising that the Red Army was just around to corner, ready to help.

[Armo77]

Armenia would not exist if the Dashnaks had their way, I believe they would have rather surrendered to the Turkish forces rather than become Communist.

Common now think LOGICALLY! If they surrendered to the Turkish Army, they would have been killed or forced into Islam.. And YOU would be having to praying to the east numerous times a day because if it.. Do you seriously think our ancestors that died would have chose to convert to Islam?

[PiggyWiggy]

You know what Armo?

I am tired of you bashing on me!

You do not even read my posts, just jump to conclusions.

I am against what the Dashnaks did...and if I could have cursed and not gotten band I would do so right now!

So please...do not jump to conclusions, you are older, and I respect that...

[Shahumyan]

So in conclusion are we more? or less independent?

[XxSipanxX]

Listen im a metal drummer here in Los Angeles. Im not from russia. I was there last summer and they are a lot like us. Your right i am crushing Armenian Americans because they all give the Armenians from Armenia a bad name. Dont beleive me? Go to Armenia. Ask the people, just like I did. Or else your being pampered here in the United States with your rich fathers money. Hah, how can you call yourself an AMERICAN. Just because we were BORN here or we LIVE here? Cmon now, you guys must be joking. THe true Armenians are not in LEBANON, or IRAN or GLENDALE. They are in ARMENIA. The Armenian Girls here in America are joke, 30 years old already and most of them dont know how to cook. Most of them dress like their going to a club when they come to church. This is sick shit, and its AMERICAN. A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N. You guys have to look at what was going on back then and whats going on now. OH SO ARMENIA IS FREE NOW. Free with prostitution, theft, hunger, and pain. That to me sucks and i dont want ANYTHING to do with freedom. Just as long as my people are well kept and have a job im happy. But right now you must be blind if you dont think that somethings wrong. "oh but its getting better there". Really is it? From what year to what? Weve gone back 100 years after our republic fell. We went to war when we should have thought about our economy. We as armenians SUCK at governing. Weve always needed to be with a bigger UNION or EMPIRE just so we can be there. Persia, Russia, Rome, Greece, and unfortunately for those in the WEST... Turkey. Im not a horrible guy im just seeing shit in this country thats pretty disgusting. So im sorry but calling yourself an AMERICAN ARMENIAN is just SORRY period. Its a shame

[XxSipanxX]

SORRY I FORGOT TO ADD SOMETHING....

The armenian guys here are just as bad as the girls, the thinking process of a 30 year old armenian male here is equivalent to a 16 year old male in Yerevan. Sad but True. Were all spoiled here. ALL OF US. EVEN ME. AND I HATE IT. i wish i grew up poor and in the streets just so i can have much more knowledge and experience than i do now.

Im not saying the Soviet Union was perfect. But it had MUCH BETTER morals than todays ARMENIA and of course AMERICA. But again every country has better morale than the USA.

Edited by XxSipanxX, 04 December 2003 - 09:40 PM.

[Sip]

xxSipanxx ... THIS is what I think of your last two posts. Their level of crappitude is sooooo much, that I don't even know where to begin.

But again every country has better morale than the USA.

Go to Armenia. Ask the people

... and of course those people know what is really going on in America as opposed to the ones who are actually here?

So im sorry but calling yourself an AMERICAN ARMENIAN is just SORRY period

I rather be a "sorry" American Armenian than ANYTHING else in this world right now.

[XxSipanxX]

go ahead your free to say what you feel. but its time for the truth, its time for us to stop and look in the mirror and ask ourselves who we REALLY are. and who THEY really are.

[THOTH]

xxSipanxx - I'm sorry that you have such a narrow view of things...