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[man]

Russia has completed the evacuation of all its military and diplomatic personnel from Syria, including the Russian naval base at Tartus, on Thursday June 27. This in fear that the rebels in Syria will stage car bomb attacks against them and force Russia to be embroiled more in the civil war conflict of Syria. The 16-ship naval Russian task force remains in the eastern Mediterranean in support of Syria.

According to recent news "in London, Prime Minister David Cameron called the government’s National Security Council into session in Downing Street on Syria. Opposition leader Ed Milliband was invited to attend the meeting, a custom observed only when issues of the highest security importance are discussed."

"The US and Russia are poised for more military intervention in the conflict up until a point just short of a military clash on Syrian soil. US intelligence analysts have judged Putin ready to go all the way on Syria against the US - no holds barred." However, Russia, after its disaster in Afghanistan and failure to accomplish its goals in Georgia in 2008, have kept and will keep away from direct military involvement in conflicts outside Russian territories when it comes to confronting the West like now is happening in Syria

"Iran, Hizballah of Lebanon and Iraq will likewise ratchet up their battlefield presence" as the conflict in Syria grows after the Geneva-2 Conference for a political solution for the Syrian crisis has been canceled.

"A violent encounter is building up between Middle East Shiites flocking to Syria to save the Assad regime alongside Russia, and the US-backed Sunni-dominated rebel forces." Iran, Turkey, Israel, Jordan and Lebanon may be dragged in the Syrian conflict at any moment. Turkey may abstain for fear of damaging its recent cozy relationship with Russia but being a member of NATO it has obligation to help NATO when that entity attacks Syria after no-fly zone is declared over Syria and troops are send from Jordan to occupy Damascus.

The sign is the sick Mandela in south Africa, after he pass away a big will loom in Middle East. There will be a charismatic leader emerging in Middle East who will succeed in bring peace there and be declared the peace-maker, for only in temporary basis, and the war will resume again engulfing the world in a larger war all over as result of which the glory of USA will fade away and the Chinese yellow race will be all over the world..
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[Johannes]

Russia has completed the evacuation of all its military and diplomatic personnel from Syria, including the Russian naval base at Tartus, on Thursday June 27. This in fear that the rebels in Syria will stage car bomb attacks against them and force Russia to be embroiled more in the civil war conflict of Syria. The 16-ship naval Russian task force remains in the eastern Mediterranean in support of Syria.

Misinformation. Today russian diplomatic soerces Said.

[man]

correction: "after he passes away a big war will loom..."

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Russian Navy Pulls Personnel Out of Syria Base – Deputy FM

http://en.rian.ru/wo...-Deputy-FM.html

MOSCOW, June 27 (RIA Novosti) – Russia currently has no military personnel at its resupply facility in the Syrian port of Tartus, a senior diplomat said, though an expert affiliated with the Ministry of Defense downplayed it as a possible temporary measure.

“Currently, there is no one in Syria from the Russian Defense Ministry,” Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov told the Al-Hayat international pan-Arabic newspaper.

“We never, at any time, had a real military base in Tartus… That center has no military or strategic significance. It never did and it doesn't now,” Bogdanov added, speaking in an interview that was first published last Friday in Arabic.

The naval maintenance center in Tartus, established in Soviet times, remains Russia’s last military foothold outside the former Soviet Union. The facility, used for the maintenance and resupply of Russian warships in the Mediterranean, had a staff of “several dozen,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in February.

The Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement Thursday that the center has been serviced exclusively by civilian staff “for a long time,” but stressed it had no plans to abandon the facility.

An unnamed military official was cited by Vedomosti business daily Wednesday as saying that the Russian leadership was worried about the safety of the facility’s personnel, given the ongoing civil war in Syria. More than 90,000 people have been killed in the country since fighting broke out between government forces and rebels in March 2011, according to the latest UN figures.

Any incident involving Russian servicemen in Syria could also have unwanted political repercussions, the source said. Moscow has been providing diplomatic backing to embattled Syrian President Bashar Assad against pressure from Western powers and Gulf kingdoms.

The Russian Navy currently has a flotilla of 16 warships and auxiliary ships in the Mediterranean, but no Russian ships have called at Tartus in recent months, according to Russia’s General Staff.

The facility in Tartus only sees use on rare occasions when Russian warships call there, said Igor Korotchenko, editor-in-chief of the National Defense monthly Russian-language magazine and head of the Defense Ministry’s public council.

“[The pullout of military personnel] probably means that there are simply no current plans to use the base in Tartus,” he told RIA Novosti on Thursday.
“They’ll likely redeploy when it’s needed. It’s just a technicality,” Korotchenko said.
(The story was updated with Ministry of Defense comment.)

[man]

From news article by Novosti, it is clear that the Rus Defense minister is referring ONLY to Tartus. To take that and generalize it as "evacuation of ALL Russian military from the whole Syria" is of course MISINFORMATION or wrong conclusion or mistake. Thanks for clarification from Hovhaness.

[Johannes]

http://hyeforum.com/...59

[man]

"In an address to parliament in the capital Ankara on Tuesday [June 25, 2013], Erdogan said that certain foreign powers, international monetary institutions and media outlets are responsible for the anti-government protests that have swept his country since May 31, adding that the unrest was planned to prevent Turkey's rise." What he meant by rise I am not sure --did he wanted to say a rise toward a new Ottoman Empire?

"He stated that foreign media outlets, particularly BBC, were lead provocateurs...[Then] Erdogan stated that the same conspiracy was also hatched against Brazil, saying Turkey and Brazil both had paid off their debts to the International Monetary Fund."
http://www.presstv.i...turkey-erdogan/

It is noticeable that Iraq, Libya, Syria (and Iran) for example, do not, or did not, have private central banks like the rest of most of the world but the central banks was or is part of their government.

In case of Syria, Brandon Turbeville writes: "By 1966, the Syrian government completed its nationalization of the bank by merging all of the existing commercial banks into one entity which came to be known as the Commercial Bank of Syria. The government then created subsidiary banks of the Commercial Bank of Syria for the purposes of economic development such as the Agricultural Cooperative Bank, Industrial Bank, the Real Estate Bank, and the Popular Credit Bank. Not surprisingly, international bankers have been vocal enough among their own circles regarding their disdain for Syria’s government-owned central bank."
http://www.activistp...ion-begins.html

We see Syria refusing to give the control of its monetary matters to private “international” institutions, to international central banks despite of of being through economic crisis; but Syria's crisis was not because of its government-owned central bank. Syria is among countries with the lowest tax in the world. Those Armenians fleeing Syria to Armenia for example and opening businesses in Armenia were not so happy about business taxes and prices in Yerevan. We see Joel Hatzagordzian, of Hatzagordzian family that came to Yerevan from Aleppo this October, saying in an article written by Julia Hakobyan: "Everything was three to five times cheaper in Syria, and people would earn five to ten times more than the average wage is in Armenia. we are not sure if we can make the same business here. Everyone is complaining about taxes. In Syria, the tax inspection and business relations are simple --once a year you visit the inspection and pay taxes. Here, people pay each month [as business taxes] the amount we paid once a year [in Syria]".

Brandon Turbeville writes in his article: "The fact remains that the Syrian banking system, Central and Commercial, belong to the government and (theoretically) the people of Syria. These institutions are independent of the Rothschild international banking cartel.... Syria is not the only country to find itself in the cross-hairs of destabilization and direct military confrontation with Western powers where the presence of a government-owned central bank may stand as a significant deciding factor for....." .

I don't know if Turkey under Ordogan has come to be among those nations after it paid her debts as Ordogan claimed in the Turkish parliament on June 25; but why Ordogan wanted to eliminate Gezi park in Istanbul, a park where Istambulians gathered always for demonstrations and protests? By eliminating that park by building in its place a shopping mall, a replica of the Ottoman military barks and a mosque the Istamboulians had nowhere to go to protest and demonstrate hence their outrage against Ordogan who is now shouting IMF and BBC are conspiring against him and against Turkey.

Brandon Turbeville is an author out of Florence, South Carolina. He has a Bachelor's Degree from Francis Marion University and is the author of various books and 200 articles.

[man]

Under the headline "Russia withdraws its remaining personnel from Syria" we see The Guardian of London reporting on June 26:

"Russia has evacuated the last of its personnel from Syria, including from its Mediterranean naval base in Tartus, in a move that appears to underline Moscow's mounting concerns about the escalating crisis.

Russian media reported on Wednesday that they had confirmed the evacuation with officials in the country's military and foreign ministry.

News that Russian forces had pulled out of Syria came in an interview with Mikhail Bogdanov, the deputy foreign minister, in an interview with the newspaper al-Hayat last week.

"Today, the Russian defence ministry does not have a single person in Syria," he said. He described Tartus as a "technical facility for maintaining ships sailing in the Mediterranean."

The Vedomosti newspaper quoted an unnamed defence ministry official as saying: "We have neither servicemen nor civilians in Syria any more. Or Russian military instructors [advisers] assigned to units of the Syrian regular army, for that matter."

But Vedomosti said the decision to remove defence ministry personnel did not include technical experts employed by the Syrian government to train its army to use Russian-issued weapons.

Russia Today, the Kremlin's English-language propaganda channel, said: "The withdrawal was prompted not only by the increased risks caused by the ongoing military conflict, but also by the fact that in the current conditions any incident involving Russian servicemen would likely have some unfavourable reaction from the international community."

Russia has been evacuating its citizens from Syria for weeks. Bogdanov said that about 30,000 Russians live throughout the country, some in rebel-held areas. The Interfax news agency reported that 128 Russians and citizens of other former Soviet republics left Syria on Wednesday on planes that had delivered what was described as humanitarian supplies the previous day.

The pullout from Tartus is unlikely to interfere with the delivery of Russian air defence and anti-ship missiles to Syria. Bogdanov defended the shipments of arms as legal and arranged under an existing contract. Asked when the deliveries would begin, he replied that that was a decision for the "supreme command"."

....and Cyprus is opening its doors to Russian military???