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Posted 31 January 2016 - 12:22 PM



But if he has investments in Azerbaijan. That worries me.

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 12:06 PM

Trump has investments everywhere, that did not stop him from saying whatever he wants to say.

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 05:32 PM

Do you think, having Trump Towers in Baku would cause him to lean in favor of Azerbaijan when it comes to Artsakh? 

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 10:32 AM

If he becomes the president, he will follow with the interests of the USA just like any other president be it Democrat or Republican. At the moment USA is not happy with sultan mafia aliyev.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 11:01 AM

How a Turkish Cleric's Network Has Penetrated the Clinton Campaign and
American Education
By Ariel Cohen
Feb. 1, 2016

[Ariel Cohen, PhD, is Director, Center for Energy, Natural Resources
and Geopolitics and Senior Fellow at the Institute for the Analysis of
Global Security]

As America increases its global ties and interacts with foreign ways
and cultures, it imports the good, the bad and the ugly.

A Turkish Muslim cleric named Fethullah Gulen, who resides in
Pennsylvania, appears to have brought an unhealthy mix of politics and
religion to his country of asylum.

Gulen has built a global religious movement, which has attracted some
5 to 8 million followers worldwide (the exact number is unknown). In
the process, some of his followers have apparently amassed tremendous
wealth--the Gulen-affiliated net business worth exceeds $25 billion.

The myriad of organizations affiliated with the Gulen movement include
banks, newspapers, universities, charities, research institutes, and
the largest network of private Muslim schools in the world. The school
curriculum is not overtly Islamist, and claims to focus on science,
technology, engineering and math (also known as STEM).

Unfortunately, it appears that these operations are being used like a
giant vacuum cleaner to syphon off hundreds of millions of U.S.
taxpayer dollars, with the leading role in these activities being
played by the Gulen-inspired U.S. network of charter schools, the
largest in the country. Taken together, they receive approximately
$150 million a year in tax breaks and subsidies.

Some say the Gulenist organization is a combination of cult, cabal and
corporation. Most concerning, it appears to be busy buying, using and
abusing political power.

The web reaches up to the corridors of the U.S. Congress and down to
local schools from Texas to Tahoe. According to a USA TODAY
investigation, over 200 trips for congressmen and congressional staff
have been sponsored by Gulenist entities.

Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Clinton Foundation have taken in
hundreds of thousands of dollars from Gulen's followers, including
from Recep Ozkan, former president of the Gulen-connected Turkish
Cultural Center.

Mr. Ozkan has been identified as a key Gulen operative in New York.
According to the Clinton Foundation website, he contributed between
$500,000 and $1 million. Unsurprisingly, former President Bill Clinton
has appeared at Gulen movement events and praised the founder's
contributions to world peace and inter-religious understanding.

The ties also go directly to the Democratic presidential candidate.
The same Mr. Ozkan hosted then-Sen. Hillary Clinton at Ramadan dinners
in 2006 and 2007. He contributed $25,000 to her 2008 presidential
campaign. As an executive of JIG Corp, Everglobel Partners and Baharu
Inc., he gave $25,000 to the pro-Clinton Ready PAC in 2014 and topped
it with extra $5,400 last year.

And not only Democrats have benefited. Numerous other Gulen-affiliated
Turkish Americans, including Gokhan Ozkok, who is connected to the
Turkish Cultural Center, Sema Education, Apple Education Services, the
Turkic-American Business Network, the Istanbul Center, Peace Islands
Institute, Global Spectrum Foundation and the Turkish American
Business Council, have contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to
the Clinton, Jeb Bush, and other campaigns, Republican and Democrat.

Some of the Gulenist money to Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) came from
out of state and despite donations in thousands of dollars, the
supposed donors reported incomes below $40,000 and no home ownership.

Other Gulenist donors did not know candidates to whom they donated.
They had no idea that Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), is a woman, not a
man. In the segregated and misogynistic culture promoted by the Gulen
movement, a woman apparently cannot be conceived of as a Senator.

Sen. Ayotte has returned $43,000 of Gulen donations--however the
Clinton campaign is procrastinating, and so are other beneficiaries.

Currently, the FBI is engaged in a massive probe of Gulenist
activities in this country. However, the investigation is limited to
the Gulen-linked schools.

The political ambition of the global movement is obvious. It is the
task of law enforcement to protect our politics, our country, and most
importantly our children, from illicit external influences. Therefore,
as FBI investigates the network, it can also look into the political
donations by the members of the movement.

In a speech to an inner circles of supporters, Gulen is quoted as saying:

"You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing
your existence until you reach all the power centers. . . . Until the
conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If
they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and
Muslims will suffer everywhere. . . . The time is not yet right. You
must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe,
until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it. . . . You must
wait until you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought
to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in
Turkey . . . . Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you
all--in confidence . . . trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know
that when you leave here, [just] as you discard your empty juice
boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed

While he was talking about Turkey, it is not unreasonable to question
whether the same paradigm is now being applied to the US. Turkey, by
the way, has taken steps to protect itself from the fugitive cleric
and his followers by cracking down on their organizations and issuing
a warrant for Gulen's arrest.

Turkey is an important American ally, a bridge between Europe and
Asia, sitting astride the Middle East, the Black Sea, and the
Caucasus. However, until matters are completely cleared, it is time
for political candidates to return the Gulen network campaign and
charity money while the FBI does its job and carries on the
painstaking work of investigations. It is also the time for the U.S.
Congress to get to the bottom of this web of money, power and
influence, and shine the light of justice on it--once and for all.


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