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[nairakev]

Sorry, honey!
I should disagree. You cannot estimate an influence of a person by the critic interpretation of his deeds. I still reapeat what I say above. It is not a "blow-up" or put-up story. Neither my personal ambition to stand for Sartre's influence in the modern French culture and mainstream philosophy.
Sartre for today's France is one of biggest man of this century. If you know a bit the French phylosophical legalised "undergound" actuality, you should have been studied or read Bernard-Henri Levy's interpretation of Sartre as a thinker.

Let's skip what Bernard-Henri Levy analysed, let's take the other aspect of his intention.

He chose Sartre intenionally by knowning if you want to immortalise yourself try to oppose yourself to epoque's main think-tanks.
This is actually another reason ton affirm that Sartre is important for French and non-French societies.

Yesterday, I've been in Beabourg, I hope you know what is Beaubourg. There was an exposition named "Les années Pop", dedicated to post-war (WWII) evolution of human society in a 15 minute film which was broadcasted on three video screens in that exposition puts Sartre in the same row with Martin Luther King, Maryleen Monroe, JF Kennedy, Gagarin, Vietnam, Woodstock, May 1968, Cohn-Bendit and other idols and symbols of that epoque.

I'm not fond of symbols. But I think that resumes how French view the position of Sartre in their society. And not only the French ...
Sorry. Your opinion on Sartre influence is more like a ordinary "jelousy". I didn't notice a slightest presence of any serious argument...
Is it you?

[ara baliozian]

sorry again: i too must disagree....
sartre's marxism and rapprochement with stalin and support of cuba's castro have dimninished his stature as a thinker.
his thinking was motivated not by objective analysis but by
his hatred of the french bourgeoisie of which he was himself a member. i hate the bourgeoisie too, regardless of nationality, but i don't allow it to blind me to the dangers and crimes of fascism...

[nairakev]

I thought we were talking about the influence and historic personalities who stayed in human history. I'm avoiding to discuss Sartre philosophy. It's much more large scaled and controversial than those those critics who label his thoughts by narrowing it and decorating with a cream of communist doctrine.

Ara, we were talking about influencial personalities. And about "introducers"... look where we came up to! See the difference, honey?

[ara baliozian]

In his memoirs (LES MOTS) Sartre himself is willing to concede that most of his early thought was misguided. His honesty was one of his most admirable qualities and I admire him for it. But again the central message of his philosophy (a combination of Husserl and Marx) has been bypassed. He is part of world literature, of course, and his name will never be forgotten; but compared to his position of eminence when he was alive, his stock has gone down considerably. By contrast, Camus’ has gone up – always comparatively speaking, of course…perhaps because Camus was smart enough not to be taken in by Soviet propaganda. Another writer who has been gaining in reputation is Marcel Proust. Still another whose stock has gone down is Kazantzakis…
If we strayed too far from our original thread, please ignore this!

[nairakev]

I'm not going to ignore this, honey!
In the contrary I start enjoying to meet you so often. I find you charming and so viril. Because you are the one of those rare "survivors" of Armenian literature who do not give up and still continue to strugle. One of those thinkers who lead probably "bohemian life" but still drink water from "public" spring, puting themselves in the same row with regular mortals.

May be you'll find your ultimate work as many Maestros who launch themselves "en quête de soi-même à travers les autres" eternal process.

I don't know what would happen to us if writers like you didn't exist in this forum.

Probably I'll answer with the words of Jean-Paul Sartre:

"Le monde peut fort bien se passer de littérature. Mais il peut se passer de l'homme encore mieux..."

[nairakev]

LOL...
I see your genle reminder, Maestro!
Bravo!

[ara baliozian]

i am touched! / ara