Search For Happyness
#1
Posted 17 August 2003 - 10:19 PM
What makes us wanting to live? I mean, what makes us wanting to wake in the morning, dress and go out? What are we searching, why are we not just taking off the plug?
Search for Happyness and making us happy, those are what makes us wanting to live, it is happyness... everything we do, this is our goal. We work to make money, to have what we want, we do what we want, because it makes us happy. All our life is centered on that. If we were not able to be happy, and more importantly, at the same time, losing FAITH of finding happyness, dying would not threaten us, living would be just suffering and boring.
EVERYTHING we do, we do it for one of those two reasons.
1- It makes us happy.
2- We expect that it would serve us to make us happy.(Faith in finding happyness)
Think about that, it is so true.
#2
Posted 17 August 2003 - 10:24 PM
Rupen Hakverdian
Edited by gamavor, 17 August 2003 - 10:26 PM.
#3
Posted 18 August 2003 - 12:04 AM
#4
Posted 01 September 2003 - 09:14 AM
I agree Domino, the purpose of all life is happiness. But we often try to be happy by doing this and that and end up unhappy And also we do a lot of things not with the drive to be happy but just out of habit.I though of one thing the other night(Domino new wondering).
What makes us wanting to live? I mean, what makes us wanting to wake in the morning, dress and go out? What are we searching, why are we not just taking off the plug?
Search for Happyness and making us happy, those are what makes us wanting to live, it is happyness... everything we do, this is our goal. We work to make money, to have what we want, we do what we want, because it makes us happy. All our life is centered on that. If we were not able to be happy, and more importantly, at the same time, losing FAITH of finding happyness, dying would not threaten us, living would be just suffering and boring.
EVERYTHING we do, we do it for one of those two reasons.
1- It makes us happy.
2- We expect that it would serve us to make us happy.(Faith in finding happyness)
Think about that, it is so true.
#5
Posted 27 March 2004 - 04:43 PM
Domino, I always think about that. And I often wonder why people choose to struggle with a hard life instead of, let's say, kill themselves? Really, it's so interesting - what makes people want to live? And what if someone is tired of searching for happiness? What makes him want to go on with his life? I think many people at one point become dissapointed at life yet we don't see people committing suicide by the masses... hmm, interesting...
#6
Posted 11 August 2004 - 03:01 PM
#7
Posted 11 August 2004 - 10:12 PM
#8
Posted 12 August 2004 - 08:52 AM
And obviously the conditions, the expectations etc for happiness change as we age and go through cycles/periods in our lives....and of course differ from individual to individual as it must be. Children can be happy just by swinging on a swing. (me too BTW - lol)...and may be considered happy (and more then just content - but joyful...) with some very basic fulfilments met...as we get older our expectations tend to grow - as do our worries and concerns about the details of life that can erode our "happy state".....as we move beyond these years of yearning into our elder years I think most tend to simplify these expectations once again...one might be considered (and consider themselves) happy if they are free of pain, have no intimate/immediate health worries, and have some friends and family to interact with and that one knows care. etc
Bottom line - I think - its not really so difficult to be happy...its all a state of mind - no?
And Anileve - interesting point concerning creativity and stress....but cannot one be stressed and/yet still be creative and also happy? I think so - very much so. I think it is entirely possible to be happy even under dire conditions...things need not be rosy perfect and tranquil...as you imply - this may not be the ideal...this may create its own angst. Many are only happy when they are struggling (and hopefully, eventually - overcomming their obstacles and triumphing)....and self confidence is I think key to this...if one is confident in ones abilities to overcome and achieve - then nothing can (easily) get one down. Again - happiness..its a state of mind...many choose unhappiness (conciously or not...) - mostly because of unrealistic expectations (and the feeling that one needs to "have it all" to be happy)....and perhaps a certain laziness and expectation that it should just come to you...and wanting more then one has (realistically or not) - for whatever reason. I would love to own (and live on) an ocean going pleasure craft to flit from port to port with no worries in life...and perhaps envy - just a bit - those who have the means for such (as I do not)...but not having such has never made me unhappy or overly worked up or such. Sometimes being a bit realistic and simplyfying ones expectations is the key to being happy - regardless of ones situation - IMO. Thus I think one can be content - even if not entirely fulfiled - and content even if still stressed or what have you.
#9
Posted 12 August 2004 - 10:49 AM
#10
Posted 12 August 2004 - 11:20 AM
I second that e-motion.
#11
Posted 12 August 2004 - 11:44 AM
http://www.vergemag....es/1200f04.html
Some of the geniuses to think about: Gaudi, Dostoyevsky, Van Gogh, Dickinson, Oscar Wilde, Goya and many others which I’ll list later. Were they happy or miserable, depressed and occasionally mad?
Anoushik, you can be content and still work and be productive, but I was referring to a burst of production, something more outstanding. And Robert Schumann produced his best work the year he got married (1840?), would you say that it was a year of content or was it more of a blissful time soon to be overcome by the dullness of the marital rituals? Being content does nothing for you in terms of feeling lively, you just are….in that medium.
#12
Posted 12 August 2004 - 12:16 PM
And Anileve - I have rarely ever been depressed in my life - really - sure occasionally - and there are things/situations that have brought me down certainly...but overall I cannot say that I exhibit the tendency for depression (quite the oposite - I'm known for being very upbeat most all of the tinme..and its true/not an act etc)...I'm also know as a person of exeptional creativity (in thought) and I would agree that that is true as well. OK - pehraps I havent produced any great masterpieces...and I know that I am not brilliant - but I do fit the creative badge I think and I certainly am a socail animal - though do work well by myself and can easily function on my own without external inputs (and be productive and content - at least for a time) - (and I can't imagine that I have ever been in a state requirring - or where i would even beefit from psychoactive drugs of any sort...[and thus no withdraw symptoms or such...])- so what gives?
#13
Posted 12 August 2004 - 02:49 PM
seems like it's something that relates to Psychology/Self-Improvement/Philosophy for that matter.
Edited by kakachik77, 12 August 2004 - 02:49 PM.
#14
Posted 12 August 2004 - 03:26 PM
Also, I think, not being content with oneself actually stops one from being productive. Because then one becomes preoccupied with thoughts only regarding himself – one becomes self-centered. Whatever art one is able to create remains only for oneself, but the art of the great writers/composers/artists that have survived to our day is for the reason that their art speaks to all of us.
Edit: spelling
Edited by anoushik, 12 August 2004 - 03:30 PM.
#15
Posted 12 August 2004 - 07:16 PM
Although the "Requiem" is dedicated to his father at some points you can sense that it is more like a reflection of spiritual universal suffering rather than an ode to a beloved father.
Edit: typo
Edited by ArmenSarg, 12 August 2004 - 07:24 PM.
#16
Posted 12 August 2004 - 07:32 PM
As to art, I don't think that being content with oneself or not has great importance about your artistic achievements. I tend to share Eve's notion, since I believe most art is abstract (even the most dry core realists are kind of abstract) and hence art is about vision, extrapolation and perception. In other words thoughts for which art is the media of expression.
#17
Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:22 PM
PS. I'm not saying that Mozart was always happy, or that only happy people can be productive, but my point is that being content does not stop one from being productive. Moreover, I do believe that one is the most productive when one is content with himself.
#18
Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:26 PM
#19
Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:31 PM
How do you know? Maybe they reflect a very different person. Perhaps, it was his search for happynnes.
#20
Posted 12 August 2004 - 09:38 PM
So, what are you saying? I have no idea what we are discussing now. Are you saying that every artist is unhappy and that their art is the product of their state of mind?
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