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[Artsakh]

What a load of excess of imagination.

Dear Artsakh, can you please quote the relevent info from this Melkon Khandjian guy?

If you haven't got reading comprehension skills I'm sorry I can't help you. It doesn't take genius to see whats relevant, its when ignorancy gets in what prevents you from accepting whats fact. The swastica is found in the earliest of Armenia hyeroglipics before it was found anywhere else and is NOT a symbol of hate. Like i said many other peoples like the greeks have also used the symbol as a symbol of peace.

[DominO]

If you haven't got reading comprehension skills I'm sorry I can't help you.  It doesn't take genius to see whats relevant, its when ignorancy gets in what prevents you from accepting whats fact.  The swastica is found in the earliest of Armenia hyeroglipics before it was found anywhere else and is NOT a symbol of hate.  Like i said many other peoples like the greeks have also used the symbol as a symbol of peace.

Comprehention skills? Shall I then conclude that you don't have the material I have asked you? It is obvious that when reading a paper that gives as source another author, one would want to read the original author. You clearly don't have the text of the original author.

The swastika as a drawing has no any artistic value, it is just a cross with perpendicular lines added... it could have come from the cave man for all I care, or a Northern hemispher constalation that has inspired Germanic mythologies, or the indians.

That Pyramids have been build in Egypt prior to South America doesn't mean that Egyptians are the inventors of the pyramidal forms. An archaic drawing doesn't make this simple drawing "x" "y" or "z" in origin... why not searching for the first line ever drawn by the first cave man and then call the line Ititoututi in origin, because a line happened to be drawn first in a Cave tens of thousands ago in Etyopia or Congo by a Ititoututian tribue, or I don't know.

And now you tell me it had peacefull signification, do you think that it matters much what 7 thousand years ago, a group of people have made of a few lines attached with each others in a cave?

The most ridiculous part is the supposed inspiration from "letters" from the swastika.

Edited by Fadix, 16 January 2005 - 03:03 PM.

[DominO]

Defending Prince Harry
01/14/2005 11:31

Probably, people expected PRAVDA.Ru to crucify the third in line to the throne of the United Kingdom

However, PRAVDA.Ru is not an internet rag, it is a newspaper based on a quest to remain loyal to the name of the newspaper: Pravda means Truth in Russian. However much of a clot Prince Harry comes across as, this is the image fed to us by a mass media which wishes us to swallow what we are given without asking too many questions.

Has anyone bothered to ask Prince Harry whether he wants tens of paparazzi on his case day in, day out? Has anyone bothered to ask him whether, as a human being, he is happy with the constant talk about his mother and his drinking and his taking dope?

How many young boys of his age do not get drunk once in a while, and if they do, is it not considered as a good blow-out by their proud fathers? Although nobody condones the taking of illegal substances, smoking the odd joint is hardly paramount to jacking up with smack, is it?

Prince Harry has been targeted as the badly behaved young royal that the media wishes to have. After all, the Queen is beyond any criticism, having served her country and Commonwealth with a rare professionalism for over half a century. Prince Charles and Prince William, the second and third in line to the throne, are behaving as expected. So, how to spice things up? Find someone somewhere near the epicentre of the royal family and try every angle to get a story, however warped.

Now Prince Harry is criticized for going to a party dressed as a member of Hitler Youth, as a Nazi, and so on. Crap.

The newspapers that run these stories are crap and the readers that believe this crap have crappy brains.

The international community which goes for this nonsense and the international leaders who make indignant comments obviously do not play the card game with the full pack.

PRAVDA means Truth and here it is: Prince Harry was invited to a party whose theme was Colonialists and Natives, a bit of fun, pastiche, nothing too serious. Some people turned up as natives, complete perhaps with spears, but nobody took photos of them and called them racists.

Prince Harry turned up in an Afrika Korps uniform - who better to mock than the German colonials under Hitler, the greatest imperialist project in human history since perhaps Genghis Khan?

If Prince Harry had arrived dressed as a Maori, nobody would have accused him of wanting to undermine the government of New Zealand. If he had gone as a British colonial explorer with a cork hat, nobody would have accused him of taking the pith.

Yet the Israeli lobby was ready with an instant hail of stones, without even mentioning the humanitarian crimes committed by Tel Aviv in the last fifty years. Perhaps Prince Harry should have worn the uniform of Sharon's units in the Lebanon as they were committing their massacres of civilians. Then nobody would have said anything.

To conclude, if this young man was invited to a Colonials and Natives party, what was he supposed to wear? A pink ballet dress, to be accused of being a fairy, a trans-sexual or a cross-dresser?

My advice to Prince Harry: Next time, instead of apologizing, tell them where to stick it.

http://english.pravd...4817_harry.html

[Anileve]

I guess it wasn't enough that Harry got so much media attention for his stupidity, he also received 2 pages + analysis from Hyeforum. What he did was negligent, ignorant and overall retarded. There are a lot more things one can do to mark the recklessness of youth which would have been more creative and entertaining. He is a public official, normal kid or not, all eyes are watching and his actions reflect on the image of his family. With an international fame like his I would have found more useful ways of expressing my individuality. I believe William choses to go to school, volunteer in Chile by mentoring children, teaching them English and aspiring to go to Africa in the future to provide humanitarian help. One doesn't have to be a total bonehead to display his youthful spirit.

[skhara]

LONDON, England -- Britain's Prince Harry was being encouraged to make a public apology and visit the Auschwitz death camp after he was photographed wearing a Nazi uniform at a party.

That reminds of a time when a friend of mine in college got caught for drinking in the dorms. His punishment included an Alcoholics Anonymous seminar.

You said the swastika is not of German but Armenian origin. Now why couldn't you just have said "not of German but Indo-European origin"?

That would still make it of Armenian orginin .

[Stormig]

That would still make it of Armenian orginin .

The wink is oh so becoming of you.

[Med]

You have a personality problem girly. Rolling eyes and (dim)witty comments are your trademark then?

[Stormig]

You have a personality problem girly. Rolling eyes and (dim)witty comments are your trademark then?

I go with the current.

[Nakharar]

I guess it wasn't enough that Harry got so much media attention for his stupidity, he also received 2 pages + analysis from Hyeforum.  What he did was negligent, ignorant and overall retarded. There are a lot more things one can do to mark the recklessness of youth which would have been more creative and entertaining. He is a public official, normal kid or not, all eyes are watching and his actions reflect on the image of his family. With an international fame like his I would have found more useful ways of expressing  my individuality. I believe William choses to go to school, volunteer in Chile by mentoring children, teaching them English and aspiring to go to Africa in the future to provide humanitarian help. One doesn't have to be a total bonehead to display his youthful spirit.

I got to admit I like Prince Harry's carefree attitude. He already carries a heavy baggage, but he doesn't show the slightest worry. He has a sense of humor that most of us lack not to mention some people in this thread. He lives his life not in the shadows and by the dictates of those who have no business in telling him what to do. Compared to him Prince William is rather dull and lame. They are expecting him to fill his mother's shoes and doing that goody-goody stuff which looks silly for someone his age.

[DominO]

I guess it wasn't enough that Harry got so much media attention for his stupidity, he also received 2 pages + analysis from Hyeforum.  What he did was negligent, ignorant and overall retarded. There are a lot more things one can do to mark the recklessness of youth which would have been more creative and entertaining. He is a public official, normal kid or not, all eyes are watching and his actions reflect on the image of his family. With an international fame like his I would have found more useful ways of expressing  my individuality. I believe William choses to go to school, volunteer in Chile by mentoring children, teaching them English and aspiring to go to Africa in the future to provide humanitarian help. One doesn't have to be a total bonehead to display his youthful spirit.

The thing is that, I would have done this, without bad intention, and would never have apologised. If the guy is jocking in a costum party, what's so wrong with that? If someone dressed like Gengis Khan that was responsable of the death of millions, would anyone say anything. There is a French Armenian site, making fun of Talaat, with this kind of humour, and I am not chocked about it. And now we are told that it was a colonialism costum party, this makes it even less chocking.