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#41 Yervant1

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE (Arpa @ Mar 10 2009, 08:57 AM)
" Turkish officials make frequent statements about "rapprochement" with Armenia in order to give the false impression that the two countries are reconciling with each other, thus hoping that the Obama administration and the U.S. Congress would not take any action on the Armenian Genocide. While Ankara officials are constantly bombarding Washington with such fake messages, the Armenian side stays astonishingly silent, giving credence to Turkish misrepresentations which are intended to undermine the prospects of any U.S. declaration on the Armenian Genocide.


This is not a secret, it is openly discussed and implemented by the turkish government.



PanARMENIAN.Net

BILGESAM: Turkey is in a deadlock over the issue of Armenian Genocide
07.03.2009 23:27 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ BÄ°LGESAM's report on Turkey's current
situation and future challenges was made public by retired Ambassador
İlter Türkmen. The Wise Men Center for Strategic Studies
(BÄ°LGESAM), a think tank formed by retired soldiers,
ambassadors and academics, called for the preparation of a new
civilian constitution and enactment of judicial reforms to overcome
future challenges in a report made public.

BÄ°LGESAM said Turkey is in a deadlock over the issue of the
Armenian Genocide, with Armenians insistent on their claims that the
1915 killings of Anatolian Armenians by Ottoman Turks constituted
genocide.

`The parliaments of 17 countries have recognized Armenian genocide
resolutions. US President Barack Obama referred to the killings of
Armenians as genocide during the 2008 election campaign and promised
the Armenian lobby that he would recognize their claims. ... As it is
not possible for Turkey to recognize the Armenian genocide claims, the
best thing that can be done at the moment is to create an environment
in which the problem can be pushed to the back burner over time,
' read
the report.

The report also stressed that President Abdullah Gül's visit to
Yerevan last year contributed a great deal to the improvement of ties
between Turkey and Armenia. Gül visited Yerevan in September of
last year to watch the World Cup qualifying match between the national
teams of the two countries, which observers have said was a turning
point for the settlement of longstanding disputes between the two
neighbors, Today's Zaman reports.




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Posted 28 March 2009 - 12:23 AM

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«Արարատ» ռազմավարագիտական կենտրոնն անցկացնում է հարցազրույցների շարք՝ Հայաստանի և Թուրքիայի միջպետական վերջին զարգացումների վերաբերյալ: Հարցման մասնակիցների ցանկում ընդգրկվել են հասարակության լայն շրջանակների ներկայացուցիչներ, այդ թվում` պետական պաշտոնյաներ, քաղաքական, հասարակական և մշակութային գործիչ­ներ, վերլուծաբաններ:


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Posted 28 March 2009 - 09:16 AM

QUOTE (Johannes @ Mar 28 2009, 06:23 AM)

Thank you Johannes for the above site.
We spoke at some length about the “Football Diplomacy “, which in itself was nothing more than a “smoke screen”. Yet another diplomacy miplomacy went totally unnoticed.
I will call it FIREBALL DIPLOMACY. The seldom discussed , not so tacit “invitation” by the Prime Minister for ankara to participate in the construction of a new ANPP / Armenian Nuclear Power Plant.
In subsequent follow-ups the PM had “corrected” himself that he did not invite them in the actual construction process, but that they buy stock shares. huh.gif ! Will someone please tell me the difference?
Someone else had brought the question as to why furkey which has no expertise in the matter was invited and not Iran which seems to have more knowledge of the matter. Will those "ëxperts" who "reconstructed" Aghtamar and Ani be the main engineers and masons whil our own engineers and masons stand in line at the "soup kitchens"?
We may also remember the days when ankara was campaigning to shut down the Metsamor plant. Not to forget the news that Armenia is exporting electricity to furkey which is mainly produced at the above plant. Atomic mushroom cloud- FIREBALL;
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Ընդամենը մեկ ամիս առաջ ՀՀ վարչապետ Տիգրան Սարգսյանը խոսեց Հայաստանի նոր ատոմակայանի կառուցման գործում Թուրքիայի հնարավոր մասնակցության մասին։ Քաղաքական և հասարական շրջանակները տարբեր կերպ արձագանքեցին Տիգրան Սարգսյանի այս քայլին՝ մի մասը քննադատեց, մյուս մասն էլ՝ ողջունեց։ Հայաստանի և Թուրքիայի միջպետական վերջին զարգացումների վերաբերյալ «Արարատ» ռազմավարագիտական կենտրոը հարցում է նախաձեռնել։ «7 օր»-ի հետ զրույցում կենտրոնի տնօրեն Արմեն Այվազյանն ասաց, որ հարցմանը մասնակցում են պետական պաշտոնյաներ, քաղաքական, հասարակական և մշակութային գործիչներ, վերլուծաբաններ: Ահա թե ինչպիսի կարծիքներ կան։
Արմեն Այվազյանի համոզմամբ, Թուրքիային ներգրավելու ակնարկով վարչապետ Տիգրան Սարգսյանը ցանկանում է ցույց տալ, որ Երևանն Անկարայի հանդեպ բարձր մակարդակի վստահություն ունի։ Բայց դա, քաղաքագետն անվանում է «ջայլամային քաղաքականություն». Հայաստանը չի ցանկանում ընդունել, որ Թուրքիան մինչև հիմա վարում է թշնամական, նույնիսկ ագրեսիվ քաղաքականություն։
-Բոլոր «ռազմադաշտերում» Թուրքիան գործում է ընդդեմ մեզ։ Իսկ ով՞ պետք է պատասխան տա, եթե թուրքերն իրենց թշնամական քաղաքականությունը շարունակ են վարել նաև ատոմակայանի պատերի ներքո,- հարց է բարձրացնում Արմեն Այվազյանը։
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Theme 3: The invitation by the Government of the Republic of Armenia to Turkey to participate in the construction of the new nuclear power plant in Armenia 3.1. In the context of the questions discussed above, how do you assess the February 21, 2009 statement by the Armenian Prime Minister, effectively inviting Turkey to participate in the construction of the new nuclear power plant in Armenia?
Foolish and void of principles that are in the best interest of the Armenian people. Even if the statement is actually political posturing, it is ill conceived. 3.2. What will Armenia gain from Turkey's participation in the Armenian nuclear power plant construction? Armenia would gain Turkish control over parts of its strategic infrastructure. In making such a statement, the Armenian government could have been sending signals to Russia that it has [perceived] options other than a strict strategic relationship with Russia. 3.3. What national security problems are likely to arise if Turkey does participate in the construction of the nuclear power plant in Armenia?
Clearly, Armenia would be at risk of Turkish blackmail. Further, both Turkey and Russia would battle over influence in Armenia, with Armenia not in control of a strategic element of its national survival. 3.4. Why did the Armenian Prime Minister, on the 12th of March (20 days after his first statement), change his position, stating that Turkey is expected to participate only financially, through=2 0the sale of some shares of the new nuclear power plant to Turkish companies? The Armenian government was most likely embarrassed when the original position was exposed by thinking people. 3.5. Do you support the idea of selling shares of the new Armenian nuclear power plant to Turkish companies?
No, never…
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Posted 28 March 2009 - 09:16 AM

QUOTE (Johannes @ Mar 28 2009, 06:23 AM)

Thank you Johannes for the above site.
We spoke at some length about the “Football Diplomacy “, which in itself was nothing more than a “smoke screen”. Yet another diplomacy miplomacy went totally unnoticed.
I will call it FIREBALL DIPLOMACY. The seldom discussed , not so tacit “invitation” by the Prime Minister for ankara to participate in the construction of a new ANPP / Armenian Nuclear Power Plant.
In subsequent follow-ups the PM had “corrected” himself that he did not invite them in the actual construction process, but that they buy stock shares. huh.gif ! Will someone please tell me the difference?
Someone else had brought the question as to why furkey which has no expertise in the matter was invited and not Iran which seems to have more knowledge of the matter. Will those "ëxperts" who "reconstructed" Aghtamar and Ani be the main engineers and masons whil our own engineers and masons stand in line at the "soup kitchens"?
We may also remember the days when ankara was campaigning to shut down the Metsamor plant. Not to forget the news that Armenia is exporting electricity to furkey which is mainly produced at the above plant. Atomic mushroom cloud- FIREBALL;
http://imagecache01a...oud-Posters.jpg
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Ընդամենը մեկ ամիս առաջ ՀՀ վարչապետ Տիգրան Սարգսյանը խոսեց Հայաստանի նոր ատոմակայանի կառուցման գործում Թուրքիայի հնարավոր մասնակցության մասին։ Քաղաքական և հասարական շրջանակները տարբեր կերպ արձագանքեցին Տիգրան Սարգսյանի այս քայլին՝ մի մասը քննադատեց, մյուս մասն էլ՝ ողջունեց։ Հայաստանի և Թուրքիայի միջպետական վերջին զարգացումների վերաբերյալ «Արարատ» ռազմավարագիտական կենտրոը հարցում է նախաձեռնել։ «7 օր»-ի հետ զրույցում կենտրոնի տնօրեն Արմեն Այվազյանն ասաց, որ հարցմանը մասնակցում են պետական պաշտոնյաներ, քաղաքական, հասարակական և մշակութային գործիչներ, վերլուծաբաններ: Ահա թե ինչպիսի կարծիքներ կան։
Արմեն Այվազյանի համոզմամբ, Թուրքիային ներգրավելու ակնարկով վարչապետ Տիգրան Սարգսյանը ցանկանում է ցույց տալ, որ Երևանն Անկարայի հանդեպ բարձր մակարդակի վստահություն ունի։ Բայց դա, քաղաքագետն անվանում է «ջայլամային քաղաքականություն». Հայաստանը չի ցանկանում ընդունել, որ Թուրքիան մինչև հիմա վարում է թշնամական, նույնիսկ ագրեսիվ քաղաքականություն։
-Բոլոր «ռազմադաշտերում» Թուրքիան գործում է ընդդեմ մեզ։ Իսկ ով՞ պետք է պատասխան տա, եթե թուրքերն իրենց թշնամական քաղաքականությունը շարունակ են վարել նաև ատոմակայանի պատերի ներքո,- հարց է բարձրացնում Արմեն Այվազյանը։
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Theme 3: The invitation by the Government of the Republic of Armenia to Turkey to participate in the construction of the new nuclear power plant in Armenia 3.1. In the context of the questions discussed above, how do you assess the February 21, 2009 statement by the Armenian Prime Minister, effectively inviting Turkey to participate in the construction of the new nuclear power plant in Armenia?
Foolish and void of principles that are in the best interest of the Armenian people. Even if the statement is actually political posturing, it is ill conceived. 3.2. What will Armenia gain from Turkey's participation in the Armenian nuclear power plant construction? Armenia would gain Turkish control over parts of its strategic infrastructure. In making such a statement, the Armenian government could have been sending signals to Russia that it has [perceived] options other than a strict strategic relationship with Russia. 3.3. What national security problems are likely to arise if Turkey does participate in the construction of the nuclear power plant in Armenia?
Clearly, Armenia would be at risk of Turkish blackmail. Further, both Turkey and Russia would battle over influence in Armenia, with Armenia not in control of a strategic element of its national survival. 3.4. Why did the Armenian Prime Minister, on the 12th of March (20 days after his first statement), change his position, stating that Turkey is expected to participate only financially, through=2 0the sale of some shares of the new nuclear power plant to Turkish companies? The Armenian government was most likely embarrassed when the original position was exposed by thinking people. 3.5. Do you support the idea of selling shares of the new Armenian nuclear power plant to Turkish companies?
No, never…
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Posted 18 August 2009 - 06:07 PM

OH! How wonderful!
Are we still playing that silly game, furkish furkbol, rusky futbolski and of course , the American “football” that has nothing to do with the “foot”, except when placed in the mouth.
Now that ankara is the capital of the US. If only Yerevan would move away from Moscow and become a suburb of W-ankara DC. Can you count your “blessings”, the furkish delights.?
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Thursday, August 13, 2009
Better relations with Turkey could aid Armenia
Nicholas Clayton THE WASHINGTON TIMES

TBILISI, Georgia
Although the process has been slow, the historic bid to normalize relations between Turkey and Armenia announced in April has potential to shift regional power balances by giving Armenia an opportunity to wrest itself from dependence on Russia.
Turkey closed its border with Armenia in 1993 in retaliation for Armenia's support of an ethnic Armenian secession movement in neighboring Azerbaijan.
If the Turkish border reopened, landlocked Armenia would have greater access to trade through ports on the Mediterranean and Black seas, and would be less dependent on transit through Russia.
"Armenia is a weak country, and it is surrounded by countries that are either countries that are not friendly or were not friendly up until very recently," said Masha Lipman, political analyst with the Moscow Carnegie Center.
"So Armenia found itself with Russia as it's chief protector, but I don't think this will last for a long time. I think Armenia, like others, can diversify now," she said.
In April, diplomats from Turkey and Armenia disclosed that two years of secret diplomatic talks had produced a tentative framework for a package of sweeping reconciliation measures, including a reopening of the border and a bilateral commission to investigate what Armenians have called genocide by the Ottoman Empire, which preceded modern Turkey.
"Given the history of the relationship between the two [Turkey and Armenia], if this is real ... it should take a long time. We've only seen the beginning of it," said Ms. Lipman.
Armenia has maintained a close relationship with Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union, and Iran has been expanding its economic ties to the small country. Ms. Lipman said these relationships have been built out of necessity.
If opened up, Armenia could potentially work toward NATO and EU integration and could become a major transit country for energy trade like it's northern neighbor Georgia.
Apart from its turbulent relationship with Turkey, however, Armenia's domestic politics have been an obstacle to strengthening its ties with the West.
In June, the U.S.-funded Millennium Challenge Corp. cut $64 million from an aid program aimed at repairing Armenia's crumbling roads. The corporation's acting director, Rodney Bent, released a statement saying this was a punitive measure for Armenia, whose actions were "inconsistent with the eligibility criteria that are at the heart of the MCC program."
Mr. Bent was making reference to Armenia's May 31 municipal elections, which -- like the country's February 2008 elections -- were widely criticized by Western experts and the U.S. Embassy in Yerevan as fraudulent. With this loss of funds, Armenia turned to Russia and Iran.
Before the Iranian election crisis, talks were in the works for Iran to provide funding for the road reconstruction, and Russia announced this year it would offer a $500 million low-interest loan to Armenia, which has been hard-hit by the global economic crisis.
"It's a general challenge when countries start to compete for sponsorship. We saw this from several countries during the Cold War," said Ariel Cohen, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation in Washington.
"I wouldn't be too surprised if Armenia is trying to play this game, but as long as Turkey and Azerbaijan remain its adversaries, it will be difficult," Mr. Cohen said.
The biggest obstacle to normalization of ties remains Armenia's frozen conflict with Azerbaijan over the breakaway region of Nagorno-Karabakh. Nagorno-Karabakh, whose population is predominately ethnically Armenian, declared independence from Azerbaijan in 1991. The enclave received direct military support from Armenia as it fought to secede. Armenia now militarily controls the enclave as well as about 9 percent of Azerbaijan's total territory outside the disputed zone.
Karabakh is already labeled as being Armenian territory on many Armenian maps, but Turkish officials have stated that resolving the territory's unrecognized status would be a prerequisite to normalizing ties with Armenia. Ms. Lipman said changing the status quo, however, is a mistake.
"No one benefits from this conflict becoming hot instead of frozen. But any attempt to radically resolve it - any abrupt move, I think, is very dangerous there," she said.
Nonetheless, during a visit to Turkey in June, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton reiterated her support of Turkish efforts to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute.
The other major obstacle to Armenia-Turkey relations involves efforts to label as a "genocide" a World War I-era pogrom by Ottoman Turks against ethnic Armenians. An estimated 1.5 million Armenians died in massacres and forced marches by the Ottoman military.
Turkey says events during its Ottoman predecessor are for historians to evaluate and that no genocide took place.
Today, 20 countries have officially classified the event as a genocide, and President Obama said during his presidential campaign "America deserves a leader who speaks truthfully about the Armenian genocide."
However, when visiting Turkey in April, he backed away from his campaign remarks by not using the term "genocide." Mr. Obama later said that the Congress would not pass legislation for the U.S. to label the episode a genocide, so as not to not interfere with the normalization negotiations.
The U.S. State Department declined to clear its Yerevan staff to speak with the press, primarily because normalization talks with Turkey are at such a delicate stage, an embassy official said.
On the Turkish side, the normalization negotiations may have an impact on Turkey's bid to join the European Union.
In Europe, which hosts a large Armenian diaspora, leaders have cited the genocide dispute as one of several reasons to block its EU membership bid.
Ms. Lipman, however, denies the two issues are linked.
"It may be a good pretext, but I think the reason [Europe has stalled Turkey's membership negotiations] goes much deeper," she said. "There is an apprehension of Turkey as a rising nation, a strong economy, a country whose population is growing, as opposed to European countries, whose populations are going down. It's Muslim, which is another disadvantage. Again, this isn't very politically correct, but I'm sure this is regarded as a source of concern for many in Europe."




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Posted 18 August 2009 - 06:56 PM

Why is it that those who write about Armeno-furkish affairs have names like "Lipman" and "Cohen"?
Who assigned them judge and jury to the world?

Edited by ArpA, 19 August 2009 - 05:33 AM.


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Posted 31 August 2009 - 07:37 AM

TO GO OR NOT TO GO!
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Shakespeare- Hamlet
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?

Every other news and commentary, be it in the Diaspora or the Homeland asks-
To go or not to go?
What do you think?
Please add other views and commentary.
To paraphrase Old Billy- “Whether it is nobler to ‘roll over and play dead’, or to take arms…”?
I have not read every one of those pro and con cacophony, and their reasonings. Here is a view from Srepanakert, (bold highlights mine);
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http://news.am/en/news/3164.html
Should Armenian leader visit Turkey? Situation as seen from Stepanakert
09:51 / 08/27/2009
NEWS.am continues publishing a series of comments on the advisability of Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan’s visit to Turkey. The Armenian leader is to return his Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul’s visit to Armenia. However, pressured by Azerbaijan, Turkey started setting preconditions for normalizing its relations with Armenia, particularly, the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.
In his turn, the Armenian leader stated he would visit Turkey provided the Armenian-Turkish border was reopened or a relevant process was under way.
Below are Nagorno-Karabakh experts’ opinions of the situation.
Talking to NEWS.am, Vahram Atanesyan, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, NKR Parliament, said that “Turkey is not viewing the problem in the context of the present situation.” According to him, official Ankara believes the reopening of the Armenian-Turkish border to be such a vital issue for Armenia that the country will be ready for major concessions. However, Turkey should have put up with the fact that the Azerbaijan-dictated policy of “bringing Armenia to its knees” proved ineffective and “indecent of a country seeking EU membership.”
Atanesyan believes that reopening the borders and establishing diplomatic relations “is only a starting point for both countries seeking to normalize their relations, and the Turkish side is presenting it as an epoch-making event,” and its “counterproductive” attitude to the process is evidence thereof.
“Of importance is also the factor of Azerbaijan’s opposition, which is evidence of Turkey, and especially Azerbaijan, being failure-states. Both the states are unable to normalize their relations with Armenia, Nagorno-Karabakh, to say nothing of the Armenian people. However, this situation cannot be an everlasting one,” Atanesyan said. He pointed out that, to have influence on the South Caucasus, Turkey has to normalize relations with Armenia. One has the impression that too little time remains before the return visit for the process to show any essential progress or at least any prospects for it. “I do no think President Serzh Sargsyan will visit Turkey, it is desirable that the visit take place though.”
Speaking of the Armenian President’s possible visit to Turkey, the former deputy foreign minister of NKR Masis Mailyan pointed out that the Ankara-Yerevan relations are not so good “for a top-level visit to Turkey to be considered necessary.”
According to him, “the international PR over the normalization of bilateral relations is still working in Turkey’s favor.” “Specifically, Turkish diplomats succeeded in neutralizing the threat of the United States recognizing the Armenian Genocide this April. The public Armenian-Turkish dialogue, as well as Ankara’s appeals to other countries for not interfering in the process, proved to be the most substantial argument,” Mailyan said.
Good neighborly relations should be established, but “it is advisable now to work at a different level… Nagorno-Karabakh does not fully trust Turkey’s initiatives.”
Mailyan stressed that Ankara’s practical steps can prove the sincerity of Turkey’s intentions to normalize relations with Armenia: giving up the demand for Armenian territorial concessions to Azerbaijan; establishing diplomatic relations with Armenia and reopening the land border. “The steps are supposed to show us who we are dealing with: a country, which is still guided by the Pan-Turkism doctrine or with a modern-day Turkey, which is seeking EU membership and accepting the EU’s system of values,” Mailyan said.

Edited by ArpA, 31 August 2009 - 07:47 AM.


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Posted 01 September 2009 - 11:15 AM

A big failure plus sacrilege. Their sucking up to the seljuk cancer was tantamount to urinating on the graves of our slaughtered ancestors, I will never forgive this full of shit government that we have.

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 08:13 AM

This is a very interesting article, specially considering the source. The WSJ seems to be the last bastion to succumb. The said paper, for obvious and covert reasons has been one of the staunchest mouthpiece of propaganda from ankara seems to have adopted a “new language”. Note the highlighted paragraph below, and see that it does not qualify the G word, even if it does not capitalize it. Note that it does not qualify it as “he said, she said”, “we say it was, and they say it wasn’t”, not in so many words anyway. It does infer that it is an historical fact - “historians estimate that in the last days….”. Is it that with articles of the like from their most loyal “allies” mehmet is finally admitting that it has no leg to stand on but to “bend its knee“ even if slightly and reluctantly, lest that “knee“ is once again smashed at the “gates of Vienna” ? The “gates of Vienna” is symbolic when their onslaught into Europe was stopped and their retreat started, when “the sick man of Europe“ cliché was coined. As things go ankara is once again is considered as the “sick man of Europe”, meanwhile they are holding their noses and trying to swallow that “bitter medicine“ to cure their sickness.
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TURKEY, ARMENIA AGREE TO FORM TIES

Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.co...3503874627.html
Aug 31 2009
NY

Armenia and Turkey agreed on final talks to establish diplomatic
ties, overcoming a seemingly intractable rift marked by massacres of
Armenians under Ottoman rule.

The neighboring countries will be setting up and developing relations
for the first time, Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesman Burak Ozugergin
said. It is unclear if the talks will touch on the dispute over the
World War I-era killings. That issue is a major stumbling block to
Turkey's aspirations to join the European Union and has strained ties
with the United States.

Historians estimate that, in the last days of the Ottoman Empire, as many as 1.5 million Armenians were killed by Ottoman Turks in what is widely regarded as the first genocide of the 20th Century. Turkey rejects claims that the World War I killings, a defining element of Armenian national identity, amounted to genocide, and says many people were killed on both sides of the conflict. It says Turks also suffered losses in the hands of Armenian gangs.


Both sides said they will hold domestic consultations before
signing two protocols on the establishment of diplomatic relations
and development of bilateral relations. According to copies of the
protocols seen by Reuters, the border -- closed by Turkey in 1993 --
will reopen within two months of enforcing the protocol on development
of relations.

The plan to normalize ties was announced in April, but Monday's
statement marked the first real progress.

Turkey and Armenia also disagree about Armenian forces' control
of the Arzerbaijani region of Nagorno-Karabakh. Turkey is a close
ally of Azerbaijan and back Baku's claims to the region, which has
a high number of ethnic Armenian residents but is located within
Azerbaijan's borders.

Turkey was one of the first countries to recognize Armenia's
independence in 1991, but the two countries never established
diplomatic relations and their joint border has been closed since
1993. Ties began to improve after a so-called soccer diplomacy campaign
last year, when Turkish President Abdullah Gul attended a World Cup
qualifier in Armenia. Armenia's President Serge Sarkisian has said
he wants progress on reopening their shared border before he will
attend a World Cup qualifying match in Turkey on Oct. 14.






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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:38 AM


tongue.gif This is hilariously funny. It may best be posted under Comedistan. biggrin.gif
Did you know that SS was comedian?
In furkey's court? huh.gif
This may be the greatest pun/barakhagh/բառախաղ of the millenium. Also pay special attention to words"COURT and BALL" . We'll see who has th bigger "ball".
Why? Is it because the "grass is greener on the side"?
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BALL IS IN TURKEY'S COURT: SERZH SARGSYAN
Tert.am 12.10.09 Speaking to journalists today, Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan responded to yesterday's statements made by Turkish officials. "Unfortunately, our public familiarizes itself with those statements from Azerbaijani websites, the authors of which, naturally, try to misrepresent Turkish officials' statements. However, there were such statements. I think those statements are, in the first place, addressed to an Azerbaijani audience," Sargsyan. Sargsyan stated that, otherwise, a very strange for him situation emerges.

Edited by Arpa, 13 October 2009 - 10:06 AM.





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