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#1 Arpa

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 08:44 AM

Rustam and Sohrab Opera.

Has anyone heard or seen this?

It is so reminiscent of Sasuntsi David, aka Sasna Tsrer.

So, it would take an ethnic Armenian to write serious Persian music as those Idiotollahs are still practicing their chorus of "allahoakbar".

"Based on the original poetries of Ferdowsi

Armenian Philharmonic Orchestra & Choir

Conducted by: Loris Tjeknavorian

Solo Singers: Kostantin Symonyan (Rostam), Sarkis Torsyan (Sohrab), Gayane Grigoryan (Tahmineh), Arnold Kocharyan (King of Samanjan & Afrasiab) and Surik Zurbyan (Narrator).

Recorded in 2000 at the Aram Khachaturian Concert Hall in Yerevan, Armenia."


See the rest of the story here;
http://shop.store.ya...stamsohrab.html

Also, among many others, this;
http://www.e-resaneh.....l Outlook.htm


One problem with this issue is that Loris' surname is spelled in so many variations. Is it Jknavorian, Chknavorian.... or Tchuknavorian.... what else? I still think "there ought to be a law" !!

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Edited by Arpa, 31 March 2005 - 08:47 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2005 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (Arpa @ Mar 31 2005, 08:44 AM)
So, it would take an ethnic Armenian to write serious Persian music as those Idiotollahs are still practicing their chorus of "allahoakbar".



biggrin.gif if you want impress Iranians say: aafatollah ( Allah's pest ) wink.gif


btw, Loris is great.

http://www.loristjek...ian.com/bio.htm

http://www.iranchamb...jeknavorian.php

Edited by Iran01, 01 April 2005 - 08:39 AM.


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Posted 04 April 2005 - 05:53 PM

I think it is great that Tjeknavorian writes Persian music, as well. I recall that some time ago I watched a movie done in Tajikistan…And I was absolutely surprised how close to Armenian music the music of that movie was! The director of the movie was (if my memory serves me correctly) Khudanazarov, and the movie was about Siyavush (forgive me if the spelling is incorrect).

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Posted 04 April 2005 - 05:58 PM

Dear Iran01,

can I please ask you a favor? Recently I found a site with folk music of Talish people. It is here:
http://simurg-art.by/sokr/music.php
(the page is in Russian, and to hear the music files you need click the bold links “прослушать”).

When you have time, can you please kindly check those music files? And the questions in which I am interested are:
- How much “Iranian” are those songs? In other words, does that music really have Turkish influence?
- How much different is the Talish (and Gilani) folk music from the core Persian folk music?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 02:25 AM

Dear MIG

Persian folk music is very melancholic, but it has its own beauty when it suddenly turns into optimism.
Modern Persian pop music is very overloaded by instruments.

What goes for Iranian folk music you could divid it into south/north east and north/north west. Talishi is definitly a north west music as Kurdish. A happy music.
Btw, Kurdish, Talishi, Tati belongs to same group of language.


Turkish as language has too many short vowels and many syllables. Which force them to speak fast and deep from mouth by help of stomach.
While Persian has mainly long vowels and less syllables. which force us to speak slower.


That differnces put its fingerprints on the music and rythms.

what goes for above artist:
1 sounds kurdish,Gilak
6 sounds very persian
8 sounds as Andy is singing Persian
10 sounds as Tajiki from Bukhara

I wouldnt rate it at all as Turkish.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 08:33 PM

Dear Iran01,

I really am very thankful for your helpful comments. In fact, I too was unable to see Turkish influence in those songs, but I was not sure if I understand the music of Iran well enough to judge.

I recall that some time ago I found a mugam of Tat people (they actually are sons of those Persians who came to Shirvan in Sasan times). And that mugam sounded rather too Turkish to me. It is fantastic how the Talishs have preserved their Iranian soul in a region surrounded by “Turkish” sea.

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BTW, from my perspective, of those songs the most “Armenian looking” samples are #07 and #06.
#07 is very similar to the Armenian popular song “Zoravar vorkid mernem…




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