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#1 MosJan

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 02:28 AM


World’s largest scientific experiment set to begin
The world's largest particle accelerator will try to uncover how the universe began in a $US5 BLN experiment that will start on Wednesday. More than 700 Russian scientists, along with some 9,000 others, are involved in the project which is aimed at replicating The Big Bang. The Large Hadron Collider will fire a beam of protons around a 27-kilometre long tunnel in opposite directions. At near light speed they will be made to collide amid fears that by doing so it might open a high-gravity zone (a.k.a. a black hole), which might threaten the life on Earth.

Scientists hope to find a previously unseen kind of particles. Dozens of theories will be proven true or false.

The Collider was built deep underground near Geneva, Switzerland.



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Posted 09 September 2008 - 03:02 AM

I'm happy that we've come so far in science and technology. I'm also creeped out and scared that we've come so far in science and technology.

And a black hole, really? How exactly do you get rid of a black hole once it's there? Where is Stephen Hawking?

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE (Armenak @ Sep 9 2008, 02:02 AM)
And a black hole, really? How exactly do you get rid of a black hole once it's there? Where is Stephen Hawking?



Funny you should say that. Check out "Hawking Radiation."

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 02:43 PM

ughaki sxal tegh en karutsel da smile.gif

yes irents aveli jisht tegh karrogh eyi ugharkel smile.gif ham mardkutyan@ ogut k@tayin ham el Hayer@ LAv urrax k@lineyin

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 05:36 PM

Mtanq Tsak@

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (Arvestaked @ Sep 9 2008, 03:25 PM)
Funny you should say that. Check out "Hawking Radiation."


One speculation being answered by another. smile.gif Anyway, there are millions of micro black holes arriving and leaving Earth, it has survived for nearly 5 billion years under those circumstances.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 05:41 PM

Scientists hope to find 'God particle' in mini Big Bang


Scientists are preparing to smash protons together in a 27-kilometre tunnel deep underground, in the hopes of detecting extra dimensions, 'dark matter' and the mysterious Higgs boson -- the so-called 'God particle.'
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The experiments are designed to re-create what happened immediately after the Big Bang.

"As far as we know, a very long time ago there was an enormous amount of energy that suddenly created space and time as we know it," Bob Orr, a physics professor at the University of Toronto, told CTV Newsnet on Tuesday.

"This energy degraded itself into a lot of particles, and these are the particles we see around us that make up matter. So, the stuff that you're made of is quarks and electrons that were produced in this Big Bang."

The tests will be conducted using the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), located underneath the French-Swiss border, in the European Organization for Nuclear Research laboratory -- better known by its French acronym CERN.

The amount of data expected from the experiments will be so huge, CERN will use 60,000 computers around the world to help calculate the results. It's called the LHC Grid.

On Wednesday, scientists will make their first test run, sending a laser beam around the tunnel that will mark the path of the particles. In late October, they'll start sending clouds of particles on a collision course at the speed of light.

"Two protons will collide, and the quarks inside the protons will collide with each other," said Orr. "There will be something like a fireball of energy, and this will make new particles -- things like Higgs bosons."

Scientists believe the Higgs boson particle may be responsible for giving mass to everything in the universe. But it's never actually been discovered and remains a theory.

Canadians have helped design some of the technology that will study the aftermath of the collisions.

TRIUMF, a particle and nuclear physics laboratory at the University of British Columbia, helped design a detector called ATLAS. It's a long narrow tube, roughly the width of a pop can, and weighs 7,000 tonnes.

ATLAS will send data back to labs around the world, including TRIUMF, which will then send the information to five Canadian universities to crunch the numbers: the University of Toronto, Montreal's McGill University, Edmonton's University of Alberta, the University of Victoria and Simon Fraser University in B.C.

With files from The Canadian Press and The Associated Press


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Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:15 PM

parap martiken eli, asa es dzer havaquyt@ inch oguta martuktyane?

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (ED @ Sep 9 2008, 08:15 PM)
parap martiken eli, asa es dzer havaquyt@ inch oguta martuktyane?

Ketsir Edward Jan Astvats en gtnum martik@ ohmy.gif

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (Yervant1 @ Sep 9 2008, 05:54 PM)
Ketsir Edward Jan Astvats en gtnum martik@ ohmy.gif



che axper astvats misht el nerka e, nayats inchpes enq entunum, haskanum
yerire qandvume sranq astxreen helel astvats en man galis
aravot ver kats nayi yerkinq AREV tesar eta astvats

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE (Yervant1 @ Sep 9 2008, 05:54 PM)
Ketsir Edward Jan Astvats en gtnum martik@ ohmy.gif


I hope you're kidding.

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (Arvestaked @ Sep 10 2008, 12:45 PM)
I hope you're kidding.

What do you think. wink.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (Zartonk @ Sep 9 2008, 04:36 PM)
Mtanq Tsak@

lol.gif Pretty funny! tongue.gif


... I read about this yesterday. I think as usual people are scared of the scientists and exaggerate about possible problems. As I understand the black holes created would be microscopic; hardly any cause for concern in our vast universe.

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 12:38 PM

This is the ultimate definition of religion, i.e believing in the invisible..
When we can’t even understand what our children are talking about, when we can’t understand what our fathers are talking about we quote that “imaginary father in heaven”. It is so reminiscent when the best of our minds would sit around a round table and waste millions of hours to see how many “angels can dance on the head of a pin”. Now do you know what a “pinhead” is?
Yes. We go to the moon to see what kind of “cheese” it is made of. Is it made of “tel tel panir” or stinky limburger? When we don’t even know what is right under our voriks. When 90% of us don’t know where the next piece of cheese is coming, or for that matter, the next loaf of bread. Brings to mind Marie Antoienette who, at the sight of the hungry for bread crowd, said “let them eat cak :oops” I mean “cake”.
And now, we should worry about the “big bang” when more than half the population suffers of “hunger pang”!
There ought to be law. No not a “law of physics” but a “law of physiology“.
If only 1 % of that budget were spent to dry tearful eyes and fill empty stomachs!!



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Posted 10 September 2008 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Arpa @ Sep 10 2008, 11:38 AM)
This is the ultimate definition of religion, i.e believing in the invisible..
When we can’t even understand what our children are talking about, when we can’t understand what our fathers are talking about we quote that “imaginary father in heaven”. It is so reminiscent when the best of our minds would sit around a round table and waste millions of hours to see how many “angels can dance on the head of a pin”. Now do you know what a “pinhead” is?
Yes. We go to the moon to see what kind of “cheese” it is made of. Is it made of “tel tel panir” or stinky limburger? When we don’t even know what is right under our voriks. When 90% of us don’t know where the next piece of cheese is coming, or for that matter, the next loaf of bread. Brings to mind Marie Antoienette who, at the sight of the hungry for bread crowd, said “let them eat cak :oops” I mean “cake”.
And now, we should worry about the “big bang” when more than half the population suffers of “hunger pang”!
There ought to be law. No not a “law of physics” but a “law of physiology“.
If only 1 % of that budget were spent to dry tearful eyes and fill empty stomachs!!

Progress is made only through specialization and society's ability and willingness to set aside resources for purposes that are on the surface non-essential. By your logic, writing dictionaries, linguistic treatises, or poems, all of which you seem to enjoy so much, are all frivolous activities that take away from the time and resources that keep the food away from hungry mouths. By that logic, the world economy and social development would be at a very egalitarian and no-nonsense hunter-gatherer level. There would not be many hungry mouths to feed, because the economy couldn't sustain that many souls. And almost everybody would have "short, nasty, and brutish" lives. If you want to spare some money for the poor, I suggest you start by advocating an 80% cut in the "defense" (huh!) budget, which is essentially a charity and welfare scheme for a whole bunch of people (including a disturbing number of people with Armenian descent) whose labor can be much better employed in search of cures for diseases or developing technologies that do things other than maiming, pulverizing or vaporizing people.

Edited by Twilight Bark, 10 September 2008 - 04:01 PM.





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