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#1 angel4hope

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 10:13 PM

Here are two interesting views about love:

The single and "lonely" ones often think that life is just boreing without love and that if they don't find someoe soon it's just the end of the world!

On the other hand I also see people who are married, engaged, in "love" (not all who are) who feel like their lives are boreing and miserable and they just don't think they have a "life" (life meaning socially).



laugh.gif okie im done laughing but here goes the rest....

I really don't see why some people believe that since someone doesnt have a significant other or is involved with someone, that the person is indeed "lonely" and therefore sad... do you really need someone else to "fulfill" who you are? i dont think so-- or the notion that when you find your "other half" you will be complete.... huh.gif (im thinkin here... "what other half?" is there some other part of me i dont know lol laugh.gif )

anyway.... i bet by now youre thinking-- okie what the flip is this girl trying to say....

hang onto your undies- woops i meant hats wink.gif

if youre not in a relationship does it necessarily mean that youre alone? (no ofcourse not) but why do people see it that way? im sure you can go through life and maintain good realtionshiops with people but not be in a "lovey dovey" romantic companionate relationship- in other words be single and still be perfectly HAPPY.... its funny how when you are surrounded by Armanians at weddings and parties and get togethers- there's always that old aunt that loooves to pinch your cheeks, another that loves to comment on your weight and apperarance and the other one that loves to ask about whether youve found someone.... where does the madness stop? its overly stressful to have people nagg you about your personal lief, and when they find out that you aren't in any sort of relationship and are over 18 and not married (haha yeah right marriage at that age? someone pass me the beer) they think thatyourlife is over--- its more humorous than upsetting, but it gets a bit annoying that people think that if you dont have someone that its a bad thing....

so whatta you think?

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 11:43 PM

About pinching cheeks - nobody messes with me anymore.

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 12:23 AM

I think nothing is pre-written in life other than the fact that you will age and die at some point (if not sooner biggrin.gif). The rest, no one can tell you what is best for you. Only you get to decide that. Some people can't fathom the thought of going through life without others ... some people can't stand the sight of other people. Most are somewhere in between when they need their own space and companionship at different times.

One thing's for sure though ... sometimes those closest around you may know you and your needs the least!!!!

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 09:45 AM

Angel4hope, I totally agree with you! Armenians (older generation in particular) are always happy to know that any one close to them that, meshdeghen yelaz en. LOL

We're not in old times anymore. The soul purpose of a women is not to get married before she gets just a 'little bit too old' (lol) and have children. DOnt get me wrong, marriage is a great institution. But we as Armenians know that there is this thing that the elders impose on us.

I think its humorous too.

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 06:14 PM

thanx anon. that was cute... btw any relations to our mouse? lol are you from the lineage?

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 07:36 PM

No, he's not a mouse he's just a "anon" that decided to take the root of my name.

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 07:42 PM

BLASPHEMY!!

ahh blast you and your estrogenical treachery

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Posted 11 June 2004 - 11:40 AM

QUOTE (anon. @ Jun 10 2004, 04:45 PM)
Angel4hope,  I totally agree with you!  Armenians (older generation in particular) are always happy to know that any one close to them that,  meshdeghen yelaz en.  LOL

We're not in old times anymore.  The soul purpose of a women is not to get married before she gets just a 'little bit too old' (lol) and have children. DOnt get me wrong, marriage is a great institution.  But we as Armenians know that there is this thing that the elders impose on us.

I think its humorous too.

my parents are a different kind . they are the opposite ,when i was 14 or so, some armenian women mentioned something about marriage to me, and my mother responded with , ah the poor child doesnt even know what marriage is ohmy.gif laugh.gif .
I didn't oppose to her, as always. they forbid me to have boyfriends. no talk about marraige, or boyfriends or any kind of that stuff. laugh.gif
Its not as if id want to run off and get married.
But beeing extreme, on either side , pushing girls/guys into marriage, and on other hand not allowing them to even have boyfriends/girlfriends, are
both very nasty.

I strive for the "normal" in swedish. smile.gif

Edited by koko, 11 June 2004 - 11:45 AM.


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Posted 16 June 2004 - 10:14 PM

QUOTE (angel4hope @ Jun 9 2004, 08:13 PM)
hang onto your undies- woops i meant hats wink.gif
Make up your mind sister! OK, socks it is. tongue.gif

QUOTE (angel4hope @ Jun 9 2004, 08:13 PM)
Here are two interesting views about love:

The single and "lonely" ones often think that life is just boreing without love and that if they don't find someoe soon it's just the end of the world!

On the other hand I also see people who are married, engaged, in "love" (not all who are) who feel like their lives are boreing and miserable and they just don't think they have a "life" (life meaning socially).



laugh.gif okie im done laughing but here goes the rest....

I really don't see why some people believe that since someone doesnt have a significant other or is involved with someone, that the person is indeed "lonely" and therefore sad... do you really need someone else to "fulfill" who you are? i dont think so-- or the notion that when you find your "other half" you will be complete....  huh.gif (im thinkin here... "what other half?" is there some other part of me i dont know lol  laugh.gif )

Now, how would the single and lonely ones know anything about love if they are single and lonely? If they've been hearbroken then you'd think they wouldn't want love. hmmm.

I don't think you need a significant other to be happy. If you have other things in life such as a great job/career, friends, family and etc. that doesn't make a person a loner. If a person is a loner then the person does not have any of these, so the person wants something he/she does not know about. That part seems kind of ridiculous to me. Take the married couples for instance. Sooner or later, the romance fades away. sad.gif

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...if youre not in a relationship does it necessarily mean that youre alone? (no ofcourse not) but why do people see it that way? im sure you can go through life and maintain good realtionshiops with people but not be in a "lovey dovey" romantic companionate relationship- in other words be single and still be perfectly HAPPY.... its funny how when you are surrounded by Armanians at weddings and parties and get togethers- there's always that old aunt that loooves to pinch your cheeks, another that loves to comment on your weight and apperarance and the other one that loves to ask about whether youve found someone.... where does the madness stop? its overly stressful to have people nagg you about your personal lief, and when they find out that you aren't in any sort of relationship and are over 18 and not married (haha yeah right marriage at that age? someone pass me the beer) they think thatyourlife is over--- its more humorous than upsetting, but it gets a bit annoying that people think that if you dont have someone that its a bad thing....
I know what you mean and I get that type of talk my way also, but I don't mind. I'm just, "whatever" to it and I don't hate it or feel rushed. I just smile. smile.gif

QUOTE (Anonymouse @ Jun 10 2004, 05:36 PM)
No, he's not a mouse he's just a "anon" that decided to take the root of my name.

Oh great, now I can't say Anon, when I refer to you Anonymouse. I'd call you mouse but I don't like calling people rodents. This is a toughy. dry.gif

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 10:23 PM

ANON is out,, MOUSE is out.. whats left> we can call him "Y" biggrin.gif tongue.gif lol

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 08:02 PM

arra u peoples stop complicating it... mouse is mouse and anon is ananas.... haskatsank? lol sorry people if i sound a bit "rabiz" this is what happens if you spend an hour at the graduation ceremony at Glendale High... i heard the word "ara" too many times last night....i've become prone to it.... anyway yeah--- stop with the anon's lol biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE (angel4hope @ Jun 17 2004, 06:02 PM)
arra u peoples stop complicating it... mouse is mouse and anon is ananas.... haskatsank?

As in pineapple? huh.gif laugh.gif

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 09:33 PM

ya, i know, i know, we've all heard it a million times: There should be no social pressure on singles to find someone, and who could possibly disagree with that.

But since we are speaking about finding "the other half" which i presume is supposed to be someone that perfectly matches one's idea of the opposite sex (or the sex one is attracted to, to be general and politically correct), we must speak of the notion of compromise in a relationship. I was just discussing it with a girl a few days ago... the fact that relationships are very much resembling to shopping: we go around, try different "products" and pick the one which is most appropriate to our immediate needs.... needless to say that the "product" usually changes when the needs change! I know, i sound materialistic!

Why do i have a feeling that i deviated from the topic? huh.gif

Anyways, the point being that "the other half" doesn't necessarily exist in the utopic sense of the expression, it can be soemone who is similar to you or even opposite, but you manage working out the relationship because everyone does make efforts on a constant basis. And i mean real efforts or "zichum"s. I think that is a very important part of the relationship..... you notice that i didn't use the word "love" which is perhaps a primitive form (or maybe an upgraded version) of "relationship".

Whatever, i'm starting to play with words and I am dead tired... I'll finish some other time. Gnam knem ara (rabiz to the bones hein angel?) cool.gif

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE (Aaron @ Jun 17 2004, 09:33 PM)
ya, i know, i know, we've all heard it a million times: There should be no social pressure on singles to find someone, and who could possibly disagree with that.

But since we are speaking about finding "the other half" which i presume is supposed to be someone that perfectly matches one's idea of the opposite sex (or the sex one is attracted to, to be general and politically correct), we must speak of the notion of compromise in a relationship. I was just discussing it with a girl a few days ago... the fact that relationships are very much resembling to shopping: we go around, try different "products" and pick the one which is most appropriate to our immediate needs.... needless to say that the "product" usually changes when the needs change! I know, i sound materialistic!

Why do i have a feeling that i deviated from the topic? huh.gif

Anyways, the point being that "the other half" doesn't necessarily exist in the utopic sense of the expression, it can be soemone who is similar to you or even opposite, but you manage working out the relationship because everyone does make efforts on a constant basis. And i mean real efforts or "zichum"s. I think that is a very important part of the relationship..... you notice that i didn't use the word "love" which is perhaps a primitive form (or maybe an upgraded version) of "relationship".

Whatever, i'm starting to play with words and I am dead tired... I'll finish some other time. Gnam knem ara (rabiz to the bones hein angel?) cool.gif

A.

oh no way dude... you are making perfect sense... that' s so how i feel, but you just put it into the right words...

I also believe that a good "partner" boyfriend/girlfiend isn't someone who is exactly like you, but the fact that you share certain beliefs and can take care of problems together and manage to work out differences is a great thing, as long as yoyu dont try to change the person ...

another one of my beliefs about this whole notion is that when people say "your other half" I feel like theyre reffering to someone who resembles me too much-- i would totally not want that, that would judt be too bland....

for example the kind of person i am attracted to- isnt someone whose "perfect" in what society defines as perfect-- but "perfect" in my own senses if they ersemble my ideal kind of person.... for example im attracted to guys who are laid back and one's who have a wild/unruly side, just something that im inexpllicable attracted to... but i myself am not lieke that i can be a bit wild, but im usually more mellow- but its good to be attracted to the opposite sometimes... its god to have change in the atmoshpere sometimes...

anywhoo im out folks caio




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