
Boycott Turkey Campaign Website
#21
Posted 25 April 2006 - 09:45 PM
#22
Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:26 PM
BTW, this zaman article shot me DEAD.
One nation being sperated, eh..?
"Bestowed our daughters"!
Shame I say, ptoo! Boycott her and her likes!

Edited by Zartonk, 25 April 2006 - 10:30 PM.
#23
Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:28 PM
#24
Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:45 PM
#25
Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:52 PM
#26
Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:59 PM
I had a site hosted by a Canadian company a few months ago. I had a billing issue, and it could not get resolved until I finally ended up speaking with the general manager/owner - Mehmet something-oglu. Needless to say, I switched the next day.
It's hard to tell sometimes.
Edited by vava, 25 April 2006 - 11:00 PM.
#27
Posted 25 April 2006 - 11:58 PM
It's hard to tell sometimes.
yes, there's a surprisingly large # of turkish hosting companies with reasonably cheap prices.
#28
Posted 26 April 2006 - 12:18 AM
#29
Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:50 AM
http://www.zaman.com...060425&hn=32402
These Turkish schools number around 300, in far-flung places like Laos, Gambia, Philippines, Belize etc. Most of them are located in the Balkans, Russia, Azerbaijan, Georgia and Central Asia. They are funded by local and Turkish businessmen and cater to the local youth as there are hardly any Turks in these places. Their main aim is to create a network of pro-Turkish elites who will occupy important positions in their countries and who will have a special affinity for Turkey. It's all very strategically done and emphasis is put to countries where the education infrastructure is non-existent or inadequate. Turkish is compulsory in all of them and the students master it quite proficiently. Since the schools are self-reliant and education is free it creates a very favourable impression among the population. Of course the leadership in these countries are very grateful since no other country is doing anything remotely similar to this. These activities are not restricted to schools only, but small-business schemes and model farms as well. Their numbers are increasing exponentially and they operate very discreetly.
#30
Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:28 AM
#31
Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:51 AM
#32
Posted 26 April 2006 - 03:08 AM
Oh, and a cue from me - while you're at it, boycott Atlantic Records, too.
#33
Posted 26 April 2006 - 06:09 AM
But don´t misunderstand me. I think that often we need this kind of psychological encouragement even if to strengthen the sense of identity, albeit in a negative way (ie I am what I don´t do, not what I do) .
Recently I was looking at a number of soccer jerseys, my nephew collects them , and I found a very nice one, I can´t recall the country, but it was made in Turkey. I decided not to buy it. It was an individual reaction, not a thoughtful collective act with a clear intent.
I think that there is a big difference between individual choice and collective acts in terms of the motivation and the consequences:
- first and foremost let me state that there is no chance in the world that such boycott would have any meaningful impact in Turkey, or any impact at all. Perhaps it would make us look foolish, Quixotesque.
- second: I am all for the opening of the borders with Turkey (or any country for that matter), Turkish goods are aplenty in Armenia, so how do we deal with that?
- third, boycotts are fertile ground for manipulation of people, that is why I on an individual level it is fine to boycott (or not) but to believe that one is part of a conspiracy to hurt Turkey is a delusion. It may make one feel good but nothing else.
My question is and will always be: why do we spend so much time with these kinds of issues? Let´s focus on building.
#34
Posted 26 April 2006 - 06:48 AM
(...)
- second: I am all for the opening of the borders with Turkey (or any country for that matter), Turkish goods are aplenty in Armenia, so how do we deal with that?
(...)
And isn't that the case with the closed border today, although not necessarily of such grave consequences? I've said before that the average Hovhannes pays more for the same (or worse) merchandise.
#35
Posted 26 April 2006 - 12:17 PM
But don´t misunderstand me. I think that often we need this kind of psychological encouragement even if to strengthen the sense of identity, albeit in a negative way (ie I am what I don´t do, not what I do) .
Recently I was looking at a number of soccer jerseys, my nephew collects them , and I found a very nice one, I can´t recall the country, but it was made in Turkey. I decided not to buy it. It was an individual reaction, not a thoughtful collective act with a clear intent.
I think that there is a big difference between individual choice and collective acts in terms of the motivation and the consequences:
- first and foremost let me state that there is no chance in the world that such boycott would have any meaningful impact in Turkey, or any impact at all. Perhaps it would make us look foolish, Quixotesque.
- second: I am all for the opening of the borders with Turkey (or any country for that matter), Turkish goods are aplenty in Armenia, so how do we deal with that?
- third, boycotts are fertile ground for manipulation of people, that is why I on an individual level it is fine to boycott (or not) but to believe that one is part of a conspiracy to hurt Turkey is a delusion. It may make one feel good but nothing else.
My question is and will always be: why do we spend so much time with these kinds of issues? Let´s focus on building.
Boghos jan

#36
Posted 26 April 2006 - 12:43 PM

Hard to disagree, sireli Mos Jan. Hence our efforts should be in building ours, let the Turks be. We need to be confident of our trackrecord.
I think we end up "flattering" them with so much attention.
#37
Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:07 PM
Boghos jan i promise you it will be fine my Brother
we will not be or go dawn to a level of tel tell tell or lay lay lay web sits by turks and azeris
BTW - i can't remember any turk criticizing them
#38
Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:09 PM
what? gazoz is made in turkey? I thought it was armenian
#39
Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:39 PM
#40
Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:44 PM
More later - gotta go....
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