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#1 Lev7

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 12:42 PM

http://www.anca.org

http://capwiz.com/an...8486526&type=CU

Edited by Lev7, 17 February 2006 - 12:42 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2006 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE(Lev7 @ Feb 17 2006, 01:42 PM) View Post


It is a cowardly act to shut the opposing position, the PBS should invite someone specializing on McCarthys studies and let McCarthy speak. As long as anyone can defend the positions it is OK. McCarthys arguments are very weak for those that have taken the time to study them, he should have the right to speak as long as someone knoweldgeble enought is there to answer back and I doubt Balakian is the man there. We need someone articulate that knows how to answer.

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE(QueBeceR @ Feb 17 2006, 05:31 PM) View Post
It is a cowardly act to shut the opposing position, the PBS should invite someone specializing on McCarthys studies and let McCarthy speak. As long as anyone can defend the positions it is OK. McCarthys arguments are very weak for those that have taken the time to study them, he should have the right to speak as long as someone knoweldgeble enought is there to answer back and I doubt Balakian is the man there. We need someone articulate that knows how to answer.


Yes, but it's not fair for us if such things are organized for the Armenian genocide, but not for the Jewish holocaust.

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE(Dave @ Feb 17 2006, 10:39 PM) View Post
Yes, but it's not fair for us if such things are organized for the Armenian genocide, but not for the Jewish holocaust.


I agree, then everytime a program about the Holocaust is aired, they should also bring deniers. AG is a fact and by bringing deniers to the program undermines its validity.

Edited by Lev7, 17 February 2006 - 05:54 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2006 - 05:54 PM

Looks like the emails and letters are working!


PBS GETS COMPLAINTS ABOUT GENOCIDE PANEL
By John Eggerton

Broadcasting & Cable
2/16/2006 10:25:00 AM

PBS has received a number of complaints (163 e-mails, according to
a spokeswoman) about their planned panel discussion following the
airing of a documentary, The Armenian Genocide.

The documentary and discussion are slated for April 17, which precedes
by a week the date marked by Armenians (April 24) as the start of
the 1915 slaughter of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman Turks.

According to the hosting Web site for an online petition, 6,702
signatures have also been collected by either a group or individual
identifying themselves as Armenian Tidorts protesting the panel,
citing the presence of two "genocide deniers" among the panelists.

PBS spokeswoman Jan McNamara says that, although PBS agrees with
most historians that the genocide is estabished history, "we also
feel there honestly are questions surrounding this issue. The Turksh
government still denies that it took place. We felt it is important
to continue to discuss it and shed light on the issues."

Below is a copy of the petition:

To: Ms. Jacoba Atlas, Senior Vice President of PBS programming It
is welcome news that PBS is planning to broadcast Andrew Goldberg's
"The Armenian Genocide" documentary on April 17, 2006.

However, we are immensely hurt by the news that this will be followed
by a 25 minute long discussion by a panel that includes two genocide
deniers.

We are confident that the Armenian Genocide scholars will present a
superb scholarly case, but we strongly feel that debating the Armenian
Genocide is akin to arguing about the Jewish Holocaust in order to
project a sense of balance. Would PBS ever contemplate such a program?

Turkish denials of the genocide are part of a state-sponsored policy
of propaganda that serves only the interests of Turkey. The historical
truth of the Armenian genocide has been established beyond reasonable
doubt by abundant documentary and eye-witness evidence from thousands
of sources. Furthermore, denialist views of genocide are already
included in the film; thus the panel discussion would serve to
emphasize the Turkish state's official position and undermine the
non political nature of your programming.

Broadcasting the panel discussion may result in a substantial loss
of support from viewers of PBS.

We the undersigned urge you not to approve the airing of the panel
discussion.

We thank you for your indulgence.

Edited by Lev7, 17 February 2006 - 05:55 PM.


#6 Armine3773

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 07:59 PM

The turks started a petition asking to air the discussion..they have 17,000 signers...

Here's the Armenian petition, keep signing smile.gif

http://www.petitiono...l/petition.html

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE(Armine3773 @ Feb 22 2006, 08:59 PM) View Post
The turks started a petition asking to air the discussion..they have 17,000 signers...

Here's the Armenian petition, keep signing smile.gif

http://www.petitiono...l/petition.html

1 - Commentary
World Media Reports Outrage
Of 10,000 Viewers Against PBS

By Harut Sassounian
Publisher, The California Courier

The controversy over the planned airing by PBS of an offensive panel
discussion on the Armenian Genocide has become a major national and
international issue. Here are the key developments of the past few days:
-- The Washington Post published on Feb. 16, a lengthy article titled:
"PBS Panel on Armenian Genocide Stirs Protest." The article reported that
more than 6,000 people (as of Feb. 16) had signed an online petition
demanding the cancellation of the panel discussion, "making it one of the
largest organized protests of a PBS program." Subsequently, the Los Angeles
Times and several other newspapers reprinted the Washington Post article.
-- The AFP (French Press Agency) wire service carried on Feb. 17 a major
story titled: "Armenian-Americans Outraged by Panel Discussion on
Genocide."
--The Broadcasting & Cable magazine published on Feb. 16 an article
titled: "PBS Gets Complaints about Genocide Panel." It stated that, as of
last week, PBS had received 163 e-mails complaining about the panel
discussion.
-- The Turkish newspaper Milliyet covered the PBS controversy in its Feb.
17 issue.
-- The Armenian National Committee of America issued a press release on
Feb. 15 calling on PBS to cancel the panel discussion and "not to provide
national television platform for Armenian Genocide deniers." In addition,
in a letter addressed to Jacoba Atlas, Senior Vice President of PBS
Programming, the ANCA requested a meeting with her to discuss the Armenian
community's concerns.
-- The online petition urging PBS to cancel the panel discussion, which
was established on Feb. 9, has now been signed by well over 10,000 people! The Assembly of Turkish American Associations (ATAA), a coalition of
more than 60 Turkish organizations, issued its own copycat petition,
mimicking the Armenian one. It claims to have more than 8,000 names, a
large percentage of which are fake! Even Elvis is listed as having signed
the Turkish petition![/size] -- Professors Taner Akcam and Peter Balakian, who participated in the
pre-taped panel discussion supporting the facts of the Armenian Genocide,
wrote lengthy reports last week explaining that they were basically
blackmailed by Jacoba Atlas who told them that without the panel
discussion, PBS would not air the Armenian Genocide documentary. Saying
that he was "backed into a corner" by PBS, Balakian urged viewers to ask
the PBS stations "not to run the post-show."
-- Lea Sloan, the Vice President of Media Relations at PBS, provided in
writing on Feb. 17 the following official reaction to my two previous
columns: "PBS, like most historians, news organizations and world courts,
accepts that the genocide took place. That is why we scheduled the
documentary to air and that is what the film's title asserts. The intent of
the panel is to explore the question of how historians can come to such
divergent conclusions about these events."
In a similar reaction, the Washington Post quoted Jacoba Atlas as saying,
"while we believe [the genocide] is settled history ... you still get
dissenters .... This remains a contentious piece of history. There are just
questions around it." Both Sloan and Atlas are contradicting themselves by
first saying that the Armenian Genocide is recognized by "most historians,
news organizations and world courts," and that it is "settled history," and
then turning around and calling it "a contentious piece of history." This
makes no sense, whatsoever!
Given the fact that PBS is still planning to go ahead and air this
offensive panel discussion, I suggest the following immediate steps:
Please sign the online petition:
http://www.petitiono...ed.cgi?pbspanel and forward it
to as many people as possible. More than 10,000 people have already signed
it.
Send e-mails to Jacoba Atlas at Jatlas@pbs.org urging her not to provide
air time to genocide deniers.
Ask Armenian organizations to urge their members to sign the petition and
send e-mails to Jacoba Atlas.
Ask your Member of Congress to send a letter to PBS demanding that the
panel discussion be cancelled.
Ask the Congressional Caucus on Armenian Issues (close to 150 members of
Congress) to send a collective statement to PBS opposing its planned airing
of the panel discussion.
Since the individual PBS stations are the ones that decide whether to air
the panel discussion or not, contact your local PBS station and urge them
not to broadcast the post-show. To find your local PBS station, go to
www.pbs.org/stationfinder, enter your zip code and click next. When you see
the logo of your local station, click next again. This would give you the
phone/fax numbers as well as mail and e-mail addresses of your local
station.
This what sassounian had to say.

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:39 PM

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IF FACTS BEING WHUT IS ACCLAIMED. LETS DISCUSS WHO EVER CLAIMED CHERNOBILE NUCLEAR (N0_CLEAR) DISASTER CAUSED 6 MILLION CELEBRAL PALCIED KIDS WITH RADIATION CLOUDS PASSES OVER TURKEY AT 70'S AND 80'S. IT IS MORE CONVENIENT FROM "TALES BY CAUCASIANS". FACT OUT WHO DISCOVERED MICROTECH WAR (SIGARS WITH SPECIAL INGREDIENTS,AIDS,GENETICS,VIRUSES,MINES,RADIOACTIVE WASTAGES,...U KNOW IT BETTER) TO ASSASSIN CIVILS.

this person signed with this message in a single page twice. you'd probably finde more duplicate submissions in other pages.
some are even signed as "sdfdf" or with similar nonsense


should we petition the petition online to either delete the turkish version or ensure it's validity and get rid of erroneous and duplicate entries?

Edited by hytga, 22 February 2006 - 08:41 PM.


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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:45 PM

even these kinds of entries are included
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Leyla Doner Our grandparents' generation lied to us. It is now that my generation is finding out about the historic truth of the Armenian Genocide, Me as a Turk feel ashamed. I ask for the forgiveness of Armenians.

Fatima Kilinc I as a Turk feel guilty of my ancestors' genocidal crime against Armenians. It's about time that our generation stands for what's right.


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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:55 PM

I think they need to get rid of the whole petition...I actually looked through a lot of the pages and it seems to me that they make up names and post the same message ten times in a row. It's ridiculous how far these Turks would go. mad.gif

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 09:09 PM

i just sent an email to the staff, let's see what their reply is

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 12:00 AM

Great!! smile.gif

If you get a reply, please post it here. Thanks! biggrin.gif

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 01:21 AM

QUOTE(Armine3773 @ Feb 22 2006, 10:00 PM) View Post
Great!! smile.gif

If you get a reply, please post it here. Thanks! biggrin.gif

It's nice to have you back Armine smile.gif

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 02:39 AM

Did William Jefferson Clinton really sign this petition? Wasn't he the guy that Hastert blamed the October 2000 fiasco on, while secretly being on the take from the Turkish government?


QUOTE(Armine3773 @ Feb 22 2006, 08:55 PM) View Post
I think they need to get rid of the whole petition...I actually looked through a lot of the pages and it seems to me that they make up names and post the same message ten times in a row. It's ridiculous how far these Turks would go. mad.gif


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Posted 25 February 2006 - 10:56 AM

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:46 AM

VP of PBS Should Be Dismissed For Insulting Armenians

P of PBS Should Be Dismissed For Insulting Armenians


By Harut Sassounian

Publisher, The California Courier

March 3, 2006


Up until now, I had refrained from blaming any one individual at PBS for the unwise decision to air a debate with deniers of the Armenian Genocide, immediately after the broadcast of Andrew Goldberg's documentary, The Armenian Genocide, on April 17.


Regrettably, I must now single out Jacoba Atlas, the Senior Vice President of PBS programming, not only for being responsible for this misguided decision, but also for insulting Armenians worldwide by stating that the Armenian Genocide "is not entirely analogous" to the Jewish Holocaust.


In response to a letter from Steve Dadaian, the Chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America, Western Region, Atlas wrote: "You and others have likened our decision to following a documentary on the genocide of Jews during WW II with a panel of Holocaust deniers. With all due respect, the comparison is not entirely analogous. Germany has fully accepted responsibility for the Holocaust, paid reparations, made apologies, met with survivors and teaches about it in its schools. As you know, this is not the case with the Armenian genocide. Turkeyís official position on this chapter of history is a key part of the controversy that the documentary and the panel discussion seek to examine."


Since when does PBS take its programming cues from oppressive governments? In terms of Turkish acknowledgement, Ms. Atlas is probably not aware that in an interview published in the August 1, 1926 issue of the Los Angeles Examiner, Kemal Ataturk admitted that the Young Turks had massacred "millions of [their] Christian subjects." She may not also know that the Turkish Military Tribunal in 1919 sentenced to death in absentia the masterminds of the Armenian Genocide. How many times Turkish leaders and Turkish courts must acknowledge the Armenian Genocide before Ms. Atlas is satisfied that the Armenian Genocide and the Jewish Holocaust are "analogous?"


Ms. Atlas owes an apology to the Armenian American community for providing a national platform to genocide deniers and stating that the Armenian Genocide is not "analogous" to the Holocaust. Should she fail to apologize and cancel the offensive panel questioning the Armenian Genocide, PBS management should then dismiss her from her position. American taxpayers should not pay the salary of someone who besmirches the memory of the victims of genocide and insults their descendants.


Notably, while Ms. Atlas is stubbornly clinging to her anti-Armenian Genocide stance, another Jewish American, Cong. Anthony Weiner (D-NY), was joining Armenian demonstrators outside the studios of WNET/13 (the PBS affiliate in New York City) last Saturday to protest the stationís planned airing of the genocide debate. The Associated Press and Newsday (NY) quoted Cong. Weiner as saying that the inclusion of genocide-deniers on the panel "is an insult to the history of that time." This is the first such demonstration held against a PBS station on this issue.


In other major developments on the PBS controversy since last week:

-- The New York Times published on Feb. 25 a lengthy article titled: "Armenian Furor over PBS Plan for Debate." The article referred to this writer as the "first [to] spread word of the petitions and protests against the panel."

-- Congressmen Adam Schiff (D-CA), George Radanovich (R-CA), Armenian Caucus Co-Chairmen Frank Pallone (D-NJ) and Joe Knollenberg (R-MI) asked all members of the House of Representatives to sign a joint letter expressing their opposition to the PBS panel discussion. It is expected that many of the 150 members of the Congressional Caucus on Armenian Issues would sign this letter. The Caucus makes up more than one-third of the entire House, a significant number when the time comes to allocate funding to PBS. "A commitment to balance does not mandate the inclusion of opinions that are objectively false," the congressional letter said. "Doing so only promotes the propagation of false and misleading views and undermines the credibility of PBS."

-- The Glendale News Press published an article on Feb. 22 titled: "Armenian Genocide Panel Protested."

-- Two Turkish newspapers (Turkish Daily News and Zaman) and an Azeri newspaper (Echo) published articles on this controversy last week.

-- During the daily press briefing at the State Department on Feb. 24, a journalist asked Adam Ereli, the Deputy Spokesman of the State Department, about "the position of the U.S. Government" on the PBS controversy. Mr. Ereliís response was: "You can watch whatever you want to watch."

-- Several PBS stations announced last week that they would not air the offensive panel discussion, following the broadcast of the Goldberg documentary.

-- The world famous rock band System of a Down supported the campaign against the PBS panel by posting a link to the ANCAís online Webmail on its website, www.systemofadown.com and placed a link to the online petition on a second website: http://www.axisofjus...ture_022106.htm.

-- KCET, the PBS station in the Los Angeles area, decided to air in April two genocide documentaries: The U.S. premiere of French filmmaker Laurence Jourdanís "Le Genocide Armenien" and Canadian-Armenian Hagop Goudsouzianís "My Son Shall be Armenian." KCET designated the month of April as "Armenian Remembrance Month."

-- Nearly 15,000 individuals have so far signed the online petition asking PBS not to broadcast the panel discussion. Meanwhile, the copycat Turkish petition is full of thousands of anti-Armenian hate messages, profanities, fake and unauthorized names, including those of people long dead, such as Ataturk and Talaat.

-- More than 3,500 protest e-mails have been sent to Ms. Atlas through the ANCAís online Webmail.

-- Several Armenian organizations and web groups have placed the link to the online petition on their websites and have sent e-mails to their members urging them to sign the petition.


I suggest the following actions in order to continue the pressure on PBS to do the right thing:


1. Sign the online petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/pbspanel and forward the link to others.

2. Send an e-mail to Jacoba Atlas at Jatlas@pbs.org urging her not to provide airtime to genocide deniers. Forward her e-mail address to others asking them to write to her also.

3. Ask Armenian organizations post the link to the online petition on their websites and to send an e-mail to their members urging them to sign the petition and to e-mail Ms. Atlas.

4. Ask your Member of Congress to sign the joint congressional letter to PBS.

5. Contact your local PBS station and urge them not to broadcast the panel discussion. Go to www.pbs.org/stationfinder, enter your zip code and click next. When you see the logo of your local station, click next again.

6. Contact the PBS stations in Chicago and New York City (WNET) urging them to cancel their decision to air the panel discussion.

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 10:49 PM

The PBS did nothing wrong in producing the debate, it should have been done, no question..., it is really sad to see how mass of Armenians are manipulated and rely on people like Sassounian by supporting the supression of freedom of speech, those same condemning Turkeys restriction of this same freedom.

The only mistake of the PBS was to not present a debate in which both sides specialists knew eachothers works to discuss and criticise. I can name here numbers of specialists that could have shaked McCarthy and rander him speechless, and even if there wasn't any specialist able to expose him, it would not be a reason to threaten the PBS that has always been fair to the Armenian community and various other communities with its balanced coverages and documentaries. It discust me to see how people here are amnesic and selfish.

The Armenian genocide is supported by arguments that would shake the worst denialists out there, this is why this thesis is strong, it is not by trying to silence either sides that we will achieve something, by not permitting such debates we leave those who still think it is a myth, in their own mass psychosis by not permitting those arguments to be tested.

QUOTE(Lev7 @ Mar 1 2006, 10:46 AM) View Post
VP of PBS Should Be Dismissed For Insulting Armenians

P of PBS Should Be Dismissed For Insulting Armenians
By Harut Sassounian

Publisher, The California Courier

March 3, 2006
Up until now, I had refrained from blaming any one individual at PBS for the unwise decision to air a debate with deniers of the Armenian Genocide, immediately after the broadcast of Andrew Goldberg's documentary, The Armenian Genocide, on April 17.
Regrettably, I must now single out Jacoba Atlas, the Senior Vice President of PBS programming, not only for being responsible for this misguided decision, but also for insulting Armenians worldwide by stating that the Armenian Genocide "is not entirely analogous" to the Jewish Holocaust.
In response to a letter from Steve Dadaian, the Chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America, Western Region, Atlas wrote: "You and others have likened our decision to following a documentary on the genocide of Jews during WW II with a panel of Holocaust deniers. With all due respect, the comparison is not entirely analogous. Germany has fully accepted responsibility for the Holocaust, paid reparations, made apologies, met with survivors and teaches about it in its schools. As you know, this is not the case with the Armenian genocide. Turkeyís official position on this chapter of history is a key part of the controversy that the documentary and the panel discussion seek to examine."
Since when does PBS take its programming cues from oppressive governments? In terms of Turkish acknowledgement, Ms. Atlas is probably not aware that in an interview published in the August 1, 1926 issue of the Los Angeles Examiner, Kemal Ataturk admitted that the Young Turks had massacred "millions of [their] Christian subjects." She may not also know that the Turkish Military Tribunal in 1919 sentenced to death in absentia the masterminds of the Armenian Genocide. How many times Turkish leaders and Turkish courts must acknowledge the Armenian Genocide before Ms. Atlas is satisfied that the Armenian Genocide and the Jewish Holocaust are "analogous?"
Ms. Atlas owes an apology to the Armenian American community for providing a national platform to genocide deniers and stating that the Armenian Genocide is not "analogous" to the Holocaust. Should she fail to apologize and cancel the offensive panel questioning the Armenian Genocide, PBS management should then dismiss her from her position. American taxpayers should not pay the salary of someone who besmirches the memory of the victims of genocide and insults their descendants.
Notably, while Ms. Atlas is stubbornly clinging to her anti-Armenian Genocide stance, another Jewish American, Cong. Anthony Weiner (D-NY), was joining Armenian demonstrators outside the studios of WNET/13 (the PBS affiliate in New York City) last Saturday to protest the stationís planned airing of the genocide debate. The Associated Press and Newsday (NY) quoted Cong. Weiner as saying that the inclusion of genocide-deniers on the panel "is an insult to the history of that time." This is the first such demonstration held against a PBS station on this issue.
In other major developments on the PBS controversy since last week:

-- The New York Times published on Feb. 25 a lengthy article titled: "Armenian Furor over PBS Plan for Debate." The article referred to this writer as the "first [to] spread word of the petitions and protests against the panel."

-- Congressmen Adam Schiff (D-CA), George Radanovich (R-CA), Armenian Caucus Co-Chairmen Frank Pallone (D-NJ) and Joe Knollenberg (R-MI) asked all members of the House of Representatives to sign a joint letter expressing their opposition to the PBS panel discussion. It is expected that many of the 150 members of the Congressional Caucus on Armenian Issues would sign this letter. The Caucus makes up more than one-third of the entire House, a significant number when the time comes to allocate funding to PBS. "A commitment to balance does not mandate the inclusion of opinions that are objectively false," the congressional letter said. "Doing so only promotes the propagation of false and misleading views and undermines the credibility of PBS."

-- The Glendale News Press published an article on Feb. 22 titled: "Armenian Genocide Panel Protested."

-- Two Turkish newspapers (Turkish Daily News and Zaman) and an Azeri newspaper (Echo) published articles on this controversy last week.

-- During the daily press briefing at the State Department on Feb. 24, a journalist asked Adam Ereli, the Deputy Spokesman of the State Department, about "the position of the U.S. Government" on the PBS controversy. Mr. Ereliís response was: "You can watch whatever you want to watch."

-- Several PBS stations announced last week that they would not air the offensive panel discussion, following the broadcast of the Goldberg documentary.

-- The world famous rock band System of a Down supported the campaign against the PBS panel by posting a link to the ANCAís online Webmail on its website, www.systemofadown.com and placed a link to the online petition on a second website: http://www.axisofjus...ture_022106.htm.

-- KCET, the PBS station in the Los Angeles area, decided to air in April two genocide documentaries: The U.S. premiere of French filmmaker Laurence Jourdanís "Le Genocide Armenien" and Canadian-Armenian Hagop Goudsouzianís "My Son Shall be Armenian." KCET designated the month of April as "Armenian Remembrance Month."

-- Nearly 15,000 individuals have so far signed the online petition asking PBS not to broadcast the panel discussion. Meanwhile, the copycat Turkish petition is full of thousands of anti-Armenian hate messages, profanities, fake and unauthorized names, including those of people long dead, such as Ataturk and Talaat.

-- More than 3,500 protest e-mails have been sent to Ms. Atlas through the ANCAís online Webmail.

-- Several Armenian organizations and web groups have placed the link to the online petition on their websites and have sent e-mails to their members urging them to sign the petition.
I suggest the following actions in order to continue the pressure on PBS to do the right thing:
1. Sign the online petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/pbspanel and forward the link to others.

2. Send an e-mail to Jacoba Atlas at Jatlas@pbs.org urging her not to provide airtime to genocide deniers. Forward her e-mail address to others asking them to write to her also.

3. Ask Armenian organizations post the link to the online petition on their websites and to send an e-mail to their members urging them to sign the petition and to e-mail Ms. Atlas.

4. Ask your Member of Congress to sign the joint congressional letter to PBS.

5. Contact your local PBS station and urge them not to broadcast the panel discussion. Go to www.pbs.org/stationfinder, enter your zip code and click next. When you see the logo of your local station, click next again.

6. Contact the PBS stations in Chicago and New York City (WNET) urging them to cancel their decision to air the panel discussion.


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Posted 02 March 2006 - 09:54 AM

U.S. PUBLIC TELEVISION AFFILIATE DECIDES NOT TO AIR PANEL ON DISPUTED ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

AP Worldstream
Mar 01, 2006

A public broadcasting station has decided not to air a panel discussion
that includes speakers who say that the killing of more than 1 million
Armenians in the 20th century was genocide.

The taped discussion, which was scheduled to run April 17 on WNET-TV
in New York, was criticized by elected officials and Armenian-American
community leaders, who called it an insult.

But a spokeswoman for the PBS affiliate said Tuesday's decision had
nothing to do with politics.

"It was an editorial decision," said Stella Giammasi, vice president
and director of communications at WNET, Channel 13.

The program was to follow a new documentary, "Armenian Genocide,"
which features interviews with Kurdish and Turkish citizens speaking
about their families' experiences during the period and will air
as scheduled.

After screening the discussion, Giammasi said, WNET officials
determined it "did not add anything to the documentary."

A PBS spokeswoman said it was up to its 348 affiliates to decide
whether to carry a show.

Armenians say that Ottoman Turks killed 1.5 million Armenians in a
planned genocide around the time of World War I, while Turkey denies
the claim.

The panel included Omer Turan, who teaches history at Middle East
Technical University in Ankara, Turkey, and said he believed many
innocent people on both sides died.

"However, I cannot accept to name it as Armenian genocide," he said
in an e-mail.

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 09:59 AM

I havn't read all these posts...but I just thought of something...
why is it so bad to get into a debate?
we have proof,so what's wrong with proving them wrong on TV?
let them look like fools if they want.

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:27 AM

QUOTE(QueBeceR @ Mar 1 2006, 11:49 PM) View Post
The PBS did nothing wrong in producing the debate, it should have been done, no question..., it is really sad to see how mass of Armenians are manipulated and rely on people like Sassounian by supporting the supression of freedom of speech, those same condemning Turkeys restriction of this same freedom.

The only mistake of the PBS was to not present a debate in which both sides specialists knew eachothers works to discuss and criticise. I can name here numbers of specialists that could have shaked McCarthy and rander him speechless, and even if there wasn't any specialist able to expose him, it would not be a reason to threaten the PBS that has always been fair to the Armenian community and various other communities with its balanced coverages and documentaries. It discust me to see how people here are amnesic and selfish.

The Armenian genocide is supported by arguments that would shake the worst denialists out there, this is why this thesis is strong, it is not by trying to silence either sides that we will achieve something, by not permitting such debates we leave those who still think it is a myth, in their own mass psychosis by not permitting those arguments to be tested.

By debating these deniars you create an environment of doubt in viewers mind. Especially North American ones who have no idea about the Genocide.

So many countries accepted the Genocide not because they love us or they want to win favours with us, they did it because it's true and it's about time that they came out clean about it.

For how long are we supposed to debate it? When will it end? If we don't end it no one will do it for us. The game is over and there is no point going back and playing extra time because we have a strong team. You know what these deniars are doing and who's behind them, their main purpose is to create doubt.

This is not about freedom of speech, it's about showing a documentary without a follow up denial. If they want to discuss the issue they can do that on another time. We're not stopping anybody from expressing their opinions.

We all know what some media establishments are doing under the guise of ballanced reporting, no need to go there. Not long ago they were using the word "alleged" now that's gone they are resorting to other tactics.

In my opinion no more debates, it's a fact. If this approach is good enough for other people it's good enough for us.




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