Please allow me to bring these quotes from other threads..
Do you guys, Gor Gor, Shahan and Elia, with your ignorance of the inricacacies of the Armenian language, are singelehandedly,with your broad and unsabsantiated assertions causing more damage to our , i.e western Armenians' cause?
It does hurt me when some of our warriors shoot from the hip, so to speak and shoot themselves in the foot, every time they make such broad statements. They lose the debate hands up, without the aid of the warriors of “eatern Armenian”. You may also notice that none of them have responded to the accusations and the assumptions, knowing full well that our western Armenian soldiers are full of hot air, to say the least. It is when our so called defenders write “harach and lourch/լուրչ/հարա/չհաչող not realizing that “hachogh/հաչող in fact means “barking(dog)”. The saddest is when a prestigious French-Armenian periodical transliterates ՅԱՌԱՋ as Haratch with that ubiquitous T to make sure that it sounds like the English CH and not the French SH, just like "champagne" is pronounced as "shampeyn". When will our crack intellectuals learn that the Mesropian ՅԱՌԱՋ is meant to sound like HARAJ, not HARACH.. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haratch
The Յ is there to protect the word ԱՌԱՋ just like it is there to de-protect Aghtamar/Աղթամար which originally meant to be Haghtamar/ՅԱՂԹԱՄԱՐ/ՅԱՂԹ եւ ԱՄԱՐ/ԱՄՈՒՐ, Victorious/Triumphant and Firm.
Coming back. Dear Elia, you accused me for being an unabashed proponent and a product of the so called Eastern school. I have been brought up and still are in the so called western culture, but I am a “student” of Mashtots, and know a few more languages that have a direct and indirect effect. And if you and others have not gathered so much to see that I am a product of the so called western culture. Shame on you.
As a rule, if you knew enough Armenian and its connection with our neighboring languages you would know that tհe correct transliteration of you nickname would be Ելիա/Ե/ղիա , not Էլիա since it comes to us from the Aramaic Elias, where the E is the same as the Greek Epsilon, the Mashtotsian Ե, not Է. Your teachers, whoever hey may be , seems to know beans about the structure of the Armenian language, just like that so called “armenologist" from Istanbul that claims we have three K’s, Գ Կ and Ք and three T’s Դ, Տ and Թ. And so on. Is it any different fro those so called teachers of Armenian in Glendale who still insist that Mesrop invented the AYP PEN QIM TA/ԱՅՓ ՓԵՆ ՔԻՄ ԹԱ
and not ԱՅԲ ԲԵՆ ԳԻՄ ԴԱ, AYB BEN GIM DA, to coincide with Alpha Beta, Gamma and Delta. Not Alfa Peta Kama and Telta.
Thank you for stating this clearly to Arpa, but he still won't listen, because his arrogance of the Eastern dialect is blocking his judgement. Arpa, please understand that the two dialects (Eastern and Western) are both equally different from the "Mashtots dialect". Considering the Armenian language as two halves of the same whole isn't separating us apart, but your supremacy of one dialect is.
Are you sure that it is not separating us apart?
Classical Armenian (from time of Mashdots) phonology DOES NOT EQUAL to Eastern Armenian phonology!!!
Why can't you understand this?
I have lost my audio -video CD about how Mesrop spoke. Can you furnish us with that audio to show us how Khorenatsi, Narekatsi and Shnorhali spoke?
Cool! Here's a an example of a famous saying in Dikranagerd Western Armenian dialect:
«Էշն ի՞նչ գինէ նուշն ինչ է. կ'երդայ կ'ուտէ փուշը»:
If you knew enough genuine poetic Armenian you would also know that the above quote would rhyme better if said; “Էշն ինչ գիտէ նուշը, կ’երթայ, կուտէ փուշը”
In conclusio. Why do so many of us think that Mesrop was an idiot for having devised so many variants for each and every consonants?
Not to forget these wise words from our own house photosphere Harut.
բոլորդ էլ ծակ պրոֆեսոր եք…
don't have the time to go into any details now (not that i'm an expert on it), but for a start, there is NO vs between EA and WA..
Edited by Arpa, 05 May 2007 - 10:17 AM.